| Subject: Matchbox Campaign Proposal |
 | Michael Johnson
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| Posted: Friday, October 02, 2009 - 10:58 PM UTC |
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Hi all! The momentum is beginning to move towards a Matchbox Campaign (OOB) to recreate those great days of easy build kits complete with base. So here is a thread to nominate interest in such a campaign! If there is enough interest then the campaign can be organised. (Not sure how that is done though). Some teasers....   Over to you.... |
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 | Kimmo Rajala
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 12:30 AM UTC |
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You woke up my interest, Michael. Any ideas about timetable? I would rather start next year, therefore I might have changes to finish my two ongoing campaigns....  |
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| Michael Johnson
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 12:41 AM UTC |
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Not sure about timing as it would depend on what the majority would like and if there is a good amount of interest as well.
I have no idea how to run a campaign on Armorama, though I have moderated many group builds on ARC. |
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 | Andronicus | Location: England - South East, United Kingdom
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 12:48 AM UTC |
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I'm in! We're just in the process of putting our place on the market so New Year (if we've moved by then) would be good for me... A  |
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 | Sabot | Member Since: December 18, 2001
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 01:10 AM UTC |
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I would be interested in a Matchbox campaign, will re-boxed Revell versions be allowed too? |
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 | Stefan Halter
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 01:27 AM UTC |
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Ah, brings back some old memories! I'm in for the fun of it. If I can fit it in timewise. Strictly OOB or will small additions be ok?
Cheerio! |
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 03:39 AM UTC |
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this I feel is an excellent idea and hopefully should be well supported as the kits are cheap and I believe are readily available. I'm in  as these models are what my Grandfather used to get me interested in modelling. cheers Keith |
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 | Jan Etal
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 04:28 AM UTC |
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As a somewhat co-conspirator of a Matchbox campaign idea, I'd be remiss if I didn't enthusiastically volunteer. Reading the postings we have a tentative commitment of eight people at this early stage. sabredog tornado64 casualmodeler Andronicus Sabot Dangeroo docdios tread_geek I'll have to look it up but I believe a minimal of ten (10) are required before you can submit a campaign for approval.  I also believe that the proposal may have to be posted in the Campaign forums area. Either original Matchbox or Revell re-releases should be eligible. IMHO, the builds should be mostly OOB but it should be permissible to allow minor embellishments such as but not limited to: -clear plastic for windows or windscreens -small additions to bases such as grass, dirt, rocks etc. -addition of antennas or 'minor" storage items -perhaps minor corrections as in scaling down machinegun barrels -decal options at builders discretion Edit ------ Meant to add this one but forgot until Max's post reminded me.  What say ye? matchbox_tread_geek |
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 | Maximilian Froemter
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 05:07 AM UTC |
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I would like to participate too, of course. Currently I have four Matchbox-Kits in the making with another eleven to go anyway  I also suggest that at least minor improvements should be allowed, if the shortcomings of the original kit are too obvious. The cast-on headlights on the hull of the A34-Comet or the out-of-scale rear mirrors of the M-19 come to mind. I myself try to keep it as OOB as possible, but sometimes you have to make a compromise for the model not to look stupid and toylike. Also I´d like to include Revell re-boxes since they are much easier to come by, even if they sometimes include different decal options than the Matchbox ones. I would even like to extend the rules to allow the use of customized decals for a greater variety of options. Tread_geek´s rules seem very agreeable to me. Also: Nice work on your teaser models, OP! |
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| Kimmo Rajala
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 06:29 AM UTC |
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My LHS has no single Matchbox kits on their shelfs, so I´d have to settle with Revell re-release.  Just don´t have a clue, which Revell kit was previously a Matchbox kit... |
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 | paul james
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 09:38 AM UTC |
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My LHS has no single Matchbox kits on their shelfs, so I´d have to settle with Revell re-release. Just don´t have a clue, which Revell kit was previously a Matchbox kit...
there is a matchbox site on line that has complete details of every matchbox kit i will have a look and post a link |
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| paul james
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 09:40 AM UTC |
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this will help identify which of the revell kits are matchbox re releases www.matchboxkits.org |
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| Maximilian Froemter
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 09:42 AM UTC |
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That´s easy: Those labeled with a scale of 1:76 are Matchbox reboxes, those with 1:72 aren´t.
There also have been a couple of combo-sets with additional figure sprues wrongly labeled 1:72, I only know of the PzIII and the Sdkfz11 with Pak40. |
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| Michael Johnson
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:33 AM UTC |
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All sounds excellent to me. Perhaps making the campaign start early in the new year? |
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| Andronicus | Location: England - South East, United Kingdom
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| Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:45 AM UTC |
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Either original Matchbox or Revell re-releases should be eligible. IMHO, the builds should be mostly OOB but it should be permissible to allow minor embellishments such as but not limited to:
-clear plastic for windows or windscreens
-small additions to bases such as grass, dirt, rocks etc.
-addition of antennas or 'minor" storage items
-perhaps minor corrections as in scaling down machinegun barrels
-decal options at builders discretion Edit ------ Meant to add this one but forgot until Max's post reminded me.
What say ye?
That sounds just about right. It'll be my first kit since I was a kid (!) so it doesn't sound too daunting that way... Best A |
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| Jan Etal
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| Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 05:31 AM UTC |
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Okay people, we now have nine that have expressed interest in this campaign. We are one short (but more would be better) of submitting an official request. Those that expressed interest so far are: sabredog tornado64 casualmodeler Andronicus Sabot Dangeroo docdios tread_geek Maxiplus If I have missed anyone, please post in this thread to be counted. As far as eligible Revell kits, here's a quick summary of kit number and name: Revell Re-Release Matchbox Kits 03211 Sherman Firefly 03212 T-34/76 1940 03213 M24 Chaffee 03214 Sd. Kfz. 234/2 Puma 03215 Sd. Kfz. 124 Wespe 03216 M7 Priest 03217 M40 155mm SPG 03218 Krupp Protze & 3,7 cm Pak 03219 Morris Truck & 17 pdr. & Jeep 03220 Char B.1 & Renault Ft.17 03221 Churchill A.V.R.E 03222 A-34 Comet Mk.1 03223 Humber Mk.II 03224 M3A1 Honey 03225 L.R.D.G. 30cwt Chevrolet & Jeep 03226 M19 Tank Transporter 03227 Monty's Caravan and Scout Car 03228 M16 Halftrack 03229 PzKpfw II Auf. F 03230 Jagdpanzer Iv L/70 03231 SD.Kfz. 251/1 Ausf. B 03232 Sd, Kfz. 183 Jagdpanther One further note, Matchbox released a 1/72 M1 Abrams kit PK179 and it also released four other 1/72 kits (Pk180 - Pk 183). The last four kits are identical to Revell kits 3101-3104 and some were even co-released under the Monogram USA label. You can find this information along with box art at the excellent Henk of Holland Site. The Matchbox re-release kits start about two thirds of the way down the page. I have two of the kit PK183 in my stash.  Should these co-release kits qualify for the campaign? Cheers, tread_geek |
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| Jan Etal
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| Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 07:38 AM UTC |
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I just read the Campaign rules and we definitely need ten plus people to be ready to sign up. Based on input here I took the liberty of compiling the pertinent information. How about a time frame for the campaign to run from Jan. 15/10 to May 15/10? Here's the rough draft.  Operational Overview
Jan. 15/10-May 15/10
More than anything this campaign is a nostalgic group build centring on the armour kits of the former Matchbox manufacturer. Many modellers remember these kits from their past with affection and this campaign is a chance to relive part of that history. Your mission is to complete a build of either an original Matchbox kit or the Revell re-release of it.
Rules and Regs
1. Either an original Matchbox kit or a Revell re-release of a former Matchbox kit are permissible. If in doubt, please ask in the appropriate forum.
2. Out of box (OOB) builds are encouraged. Deviations from OOB builds should be limited and represent minimal variation from the original.
3. The original bases for these kits must appear with the completed model. Minor embellishments of the bases such as foliage, minor additional terrain features, grasses or soil/dirt are permissible.
4. The modeller is permitted to make minor corrections or additions to enhance the model. These can include but are not limited to clear windshields/windows, antennas, resizing of small oversized pieces (ie-machinegun barrels, grab handles) and external stowage. If in doubt, ask.
5. Use of original decals is encouraged but not mandatory.
6. Enjoy this blast from the past and above all HAVE FUN. Comments or suggestions? Cheers, tread_geek |
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 | Richard Renes
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| Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 09:21 AM UTC |
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I should be able to do something for this one.. Perhaps the Diamond T tractor Count me in |
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| Jan Etal
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| Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 10:22 AM UTC |
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Richard, thank you very much for your vote.  I'd love to see this kit as it didn't seem to make it to my local stores. Those that expressed interest are currently: 1. sabredog 2. tornado64 3. casualmodeler 4. Andronicus 5. Sabot 6. Dangeroo 7. docdios 8 . tread_geek 9. Maxiplus 10.Snowhand That is the ten necessary people for a submission.  Anyone else? Come on people, this opportunity shouldn't pass you by! We'll give this a bit of time for others to enlist or respond. We thank you for your interest and responses. Thanks, Jan  |
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| Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 07:31 PM UTC |
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Can I??? I can't miss something like this... |
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| Ian Smith
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:43 AM UTC |
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is it possible to add the re-issued Airfix kits as well? |
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 01:22 AM UTC |
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Should these co-release kits qualify for the campaign?
Cheers,
tread_geek
I'd say no, just because these were Revell of Germany originated kits just using the well known small scale brand name "Matchbox" which they acquired. I believe all true Matchbox kits were 1/76 scale and came with a small diorama base. These Revell kits released using the Matchbox name don't really fit the spirit of the campaign, remembering Matchbox kits. Some of the other Revell combo packs were the Comet (03162) and the Stuart (03151). I know the M7 Priest, M16 quad halftrack and a few more were released by Revell as well. I used to have a fairly comprehensive listing of the Matchbox-Revell kits, but recently got a new computer and have not transferred the data to this one. The last true 1/76 scale Matchbox kit was PK-178 British Challenger. The very next kit, PK-179 M1 Abrams was the first of the Revell Germany (even box says so) and done in 1/72. Some of the kits I have on hand are:
- PK-73 Panther G
- PK-74 PzKpfw III Ausf. L
- PK-75 Humber Mk II
- PK-76 Sd,Kfz 234/2 Puma
- PK-77 Sd.Kfz 124 Wespe
- PK-78 M16 Halftrack
- PK-79 M24 Chaffee
- PK-82 T-34/76
- PK-84 M3/M3A1 Stuart Honey
- PK-85 Sd.Kfz 232 Radio Car
- PK-86 M40 GMC
- PK-87 Jadgpanzer IV L/70
- PK-88 Krupp Protz Kfz. 69
- PK-89 M7 Priest HMC
- PK-173 LRDG 30cwt Chevorlet & Willys Jeep
- PK-174 M19 Tank Transporter
- PK-175 Monty's Carava
- PK-177 Churchill AVRE
- PK-178 Challenger MBT
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| Maximilian Froemter
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 01:41 AM UTC |
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IMHO it would be nice if we could just stick just to the "classic" Matchbox 1/76 kits which include those neat little diorama bases (and their Revell re-boxes of course). Those bases are their unique trademark and the most interesting feature to me. There´s a total of 27 different kits available in this series, so there should be something for everyone. AFAIK the mentioned 1/72 kits don´t include diorama bases and are just reboxes with a Matchbox label, I don´t think they should qualify as they somehow "miss the point" of this campaign. The same goes for the Airfix kits - although I think they maybe could deserve a campaign of their own in the future - or a campaign about really, really old and bad kits . However, that´s just my opinion and my suggestions. I´m okay with whatever will be accepted as the final rules, I don´t want to discourage anyone |
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| Stefan Halter
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 02:14 AM UTC |
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is it possible to add the re-issued Airfix kits as well?
I was thinking along that line too, but I think we should follow this here campaign up with an Airfix Campaign... How about it? Cheerio! |
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| Kimmo Rajala
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 04:23 AM UTC |
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I was checking a finnish internet auction side today, very much same like eBay is, and found only two original Matchbox kits from late 70´s. If the future decision is ,that this campaign is only for original Matchbox kits, I´m in BIG hurry to buy one. Sale ends 10/9... |
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| Jan Etal
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 07:37 AM UTC |
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@Sabot -It looks like the majority that have posted here have the same opinion as you. Keep it strictly either original Matchbox and Revell re-releases. I asked for opinions and thanks to all who answered. BTW, I'm glad you reminded me of the PK-178 Challenger as I have rummaged around my stash and found two. @Maxiplus -Your opinion is noted and as I stated above I think that we'll stick with the 1/76 kits. @Dangeroo Quoted Text
I was thinking along that line too, but I think we should follow this here campaign up with an Airfix Campaign... How about it?
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If this campaign works out I see no problem with a future Airfix campaign. @Dani -Welcome abourd and I'll add your name to the list. @ ArtyG37B -I think that the general consensus is that most who have "signed up" wish to keep this campaign strictly 1/76 Matchbox. I am open to further suggestions. That being the case are you interested in this campaign as it now stands? @Dangeroo -See above. Campaigns are only limited by our collective imaginations. @ casualmodeler -Kimmo, if you want to get an absolute original that is your option. As we've agreed elsewhere the Revell re-releases are perfectly fine also. Well everyone, as it now stands we have eleven volunteers so this campaign can be legitimately submitted. If there are no objections or modifications to the rules how about the time frame for the campaign. Start it in mid January and have it run four months? IF we can agree on the time then there is nothing stopping us from submitting the request. Cheers, Jan  |
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 07:45 AM UTC |
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I'll go for this. I have a few of these in my 30 year old stash (which it is my intention to build all of before buying any more new kits.)
I just helped my 8 year old daughter build the T34 (improved with tracks from Eastern Express) which is currently awaiting painting by her.
I have these either unstarted, or partially built (by me, but decades ago):
# PK-87 Jadgpanzer IV L/70
# PK-89 M7 Priest HMC
# PK-174 M19 Tank Transporter
Also have a partially done Protz which is being built as a wreck, pix on my SU122 post on the Russian section (because it is going in a dio with the SP.) |
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| Kimmo Rajala
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 07:58 AM UTC |
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Np Jan. I think I´ll skip those original Matchbox kits and pick one of those re-released kits. Just don´t know which. Btw, I like that first(?) version for banner, what you have made, Jan. |
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| Jan Etal
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:59 AM UTC |
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Matthew, welcome aboard! Your call sign has been added to the list of entrants. Generally the rules of campaigns are that you must build an eligible kit from scratch and not start until the official launch date. Your partially built kits may be completed and added as additional offerings after you complete your from scratch build. (if everyone is okay with that) You could also enter the unfinished kit(s) in the Just Get It Done Campaign (and receive an additional ribbon from them). Somehow I missed your Su-122 build on the Russo-Soviet Forum. I checked it out and left a comment there. Cheers, tread_geek |
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| Posted: Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:12 AM UTC |
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Count me in please, these kits are where i started in the hobby really! Would probably do the M24 Chaffee in the Revell re-boxing.
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