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DANTON. French Predreadnought.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 12:43 AM GMT+7
Hi Russ,

Couldn't totally get way with that, but I will admit I did factor some shipbuilding time into this week.

Got plenty of less enjoyable things to do as well.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 12:24 AM GMT+7
haha, my kids might have something to say about that if I took a week off to work on the fleet
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Posted: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 05:34 AM GMT+7
Thanks Russ,

Just practice mate, no twiddling my thumbs waiting for stuff to dry.

Off work the rest of this week, so might have another bash or two.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 - 10:29 PM GMT+7
A very productive weekend, for sure Si!

Wish I could work on 3 at once
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 - 08:21 AM GMT+7
Today's progress,

Getting some sub assemblies ready, starting with the mainmast.

The searchlight platform supports, from the kit fret.



The fit of the mainmast checked with the after superstructure..



Foremast assembled and test fitted.



Plastic parts of one crane together.



Very neatly designed assembly.

Both cranes etched up.



First boats on, along with the etched boat racks.



Compass binnacle painted, two provided one for the both the bridge and the after conning position.



Overview of the build so far.



Still lots to do.

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Si
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 - 09:41 PM GMT+7
All five funnels painted, and the white decal stripe added to the centre funnel.



Ladders and rails added to the boat deck.



Assorted vents and the suchlike fitted.



Funnels fitted.



more soon.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 06:34 AM GMT+7
Thanks Tim,

I am pleased with progress to date.

As for her looks, well you know the old saying; "Beauty is in the eye the beholder". And I do love ladies with character.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 06:31 AM GMT+7
Hi Russ,

No worries mate, I was a guilty as you!

This is a very nicely moulded and, so far, a well thought out kit. Enjoying the build out of the box, alright a very well appointed box.

Well the, there are a few vents and the suchlike to go on, but the secondary battery will take up a big chunk of that deck.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 03:05 AM GMT+7
Your model is looking sharp, Si! As for the original, well, I guess the French didn't design Danton for its looks...

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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2017 - 04:04 PM GMT+7
sorry about hijacking the thread there, Si

Back to topic-looking great. The molding looks really crisp and the details sharp on this one.

Had to laugh when you said all the superstructure was now on-they really didn't have much above the upper deck did they?
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Posted: Monday, April 10, 2017 - 08:12 AM GMT+7
Before getting back on topic:-

Think you are right Russ, after she came back from Boston.

Right, this weekend's progress.

The Bridge structure under way, with all the etched deck supports.



The upper bridge / conning tower assembly built up and test fitted.



One funnel done.



All the main superstructure units test fitted.



Decks painted and main units glued down, the funnels still need the caps painted and the grills fitting before gluing down.



More soon

Si
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Posted: Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 11:22 PM GMT+7
Looking forward to seeing those pics Si.

Got a little time in, a bit of air brushing...

I think the only good reference for the Nelson Class might be RA Burt's Battleships... I think the main armament radar was changed in late '41 as well...
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Posted: Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 07:32 PM GMT+7
Hi Russ,

Second your comments above.

Although I haven't found may good photos of the Rodney 1940/41 period, looks like more taking stuff off, with a few add ons i.e. the quad 0.5" on the rear of the octopod, the single 20mm on the roof of B turret, and the 6" directors in place of the pompoms abeam of the mainmast.

Did get some time in the workshop, haven't even got the picks off the camera yet, hope to update this evening.

Good luck at the bench this evening.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 09:50 AM GMT+7
Hi Si

hope you got that workshop time in-mine fizzled out! Maybe tonight!

Looking at the pic Trumpy are using for their 1/350 Rodney I suspect the release will be for 1942 (and probably no different to their Nelson kit) as it shows the camo pattern she wore at that time period.

Hope Pontos come to the rescue and release a 1941 AM kit for her!
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Posted: Friday, April 07, 2017 - 05:08 AM GMT+7
for a sec, but I saw what Michael did, and looked rather good.

Agree we could do with both of the Nelson class, and especially a '41 pre refit Rodney.

I do like the look of 1/200th, very tempted to stay on the pre-dread theme and start of in that scale with the Mikasa, would like to see a review of the Merit kit first though.

Hope to get some time in the workshop this weekend

cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, April 06, 2017 - 10:01 AM GMT+7
As we know, Michael was building his 1/200 Nelson here and IMHO did a pretty good job of "softening" the plating effect, not sure if he ever finished it though...

I think the plating should be just visible at 1/200 (and even less so at 1/350), but it's "trench like" on this release from Trumpy. (Let's not talk about their 1/350 Hood either )Still, not sure I'd have the cahuna's to take on a 1/200 let alone the budget or space to do one

I know this is still but are there any good references for the Nelson class that you know of?

My LHS has added the 1/350 Nelson/Rodney to their pre-orders page-can feel the goose bumps already!
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Posted: Thursday, April 06, 2017 - 05:59 AM GMT+7
Hi Russ,

You are right Mate, Nelson's hull does look better plain. I will give that serious thought.

Will also need take a good look at any underwater stuff, sea suctions and the like.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 - 09:45 AM GMT+7
I've seen a few builds of the 1/200 Nelson on the net, Si, and they've sanded down the plating to great effect! Some have painted the plating back on, but most have left it plain and it looks far better.

It definitely seemed to be worth the effort.

I just hope that if the 1/350 Rodney (in 1941 fit please )ever materializes then they omit the plating from the hull... At 1/350 a welded hull/flush riveted should not really be visible. At least Merit got this right with Ark Royal!

I still can't understand how the Nelson Class (one of the most requested class of vessels) hasn't yet appeared in 1/350-baffling!

But on the flip side it gets me off the hook! Rodney is the only ship I've allowed myself to add to the stash, until the stash is empty of ships-only 3 to go after the King and the Prinz!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 - 06:33 AM GMT+7
Hi Russ,

Have to agree with you, they do have a habit of creating some excellent detail, and the at best overdoing or at worst getting a major component completely wrong.

I have the Nelson, and I with that am undecided what to do, live with it, or risk wrecking a very expensive kit?

Need to think very hard about that.

cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 - 06:20 AM GMT+7
Thanks Sean,

She is one cool beast, love this era for it's oddities,

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 09:34 AM GMT+7

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Hi Russ,

With etch like the gunports, some times I just sort of get in the zone sometimes.

I liked the option of the green, different, the kit instructions and various other references show both red and green.

The deck plating is heavy, I would reckon 1909 it would have been riveted, not welded. I maybe should have sanded it back a bit, sort of got carried away with this one

Cheers



Si



Understandable given the topic Si

Still, I don't know what it is with Merit/Trumpy/Hobby Boss. At times they get things very right, at others they go overboard (pun intended ) on silly things like plating. EG 1/200 Nelson!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 06:54 AM GMT+7
Ahoy Simon

Again another cool subject and a great looking build so far.

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Sean
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Posted: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 06:46 AM GMT+7
Hi Russ,

With etch like the gunports, some times I just sort of get in the zone sometimes.

I liked the option of the green, different, the kit instructions and various other references show both red and green.

The deck plating is heavy, I would reckon 1909 it would have been riveted, not welded. I maybe should have sanded it back a bit, sort of got carried away with this one

Cheers



Si
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Posted: Monday, April 03, 2017 - 09:36 AM GMT+7
no messing around here Si

that green anti fouling paint messes with my mind-so used to seeing red

Can I ask about the deck plating? It seems pretty heavy handed-almost like the crew would have to climb over it?
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Posted: Monday, April 03, 2017 - 07:42 AM GMT+7
Yesterday's progress.

More etch added to the outside, should have added the doors prior to spraying - teach me to read the instructions properly.



all the doors and gunport hatches painted.



Screws painted and fitted.



Fo'c's'le and Quarterdeck fittings in place.





Structure and etch going on the after end of the fo'c's'le deck level.



more soon

Cheers

Si