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72' 6" Vosper MTB
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 10:28 PM UTC
Hi Folks

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It has been my intention to build this boat ever since watching the group build ' Channel Adversaries '
http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=211104
Inspired by the late Julian Swallows, Warren Inman, Daniel Moscatelli & Alan McNeilly

The intention is to build this boat as a cut away model From the starboard side I hope to produce museum quality (as close as I can get) The port side will have cut outs revealing the forward mess deck, the wardroom, the chartroom and I hope the engineroom.

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Cheers Kev
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 10:36 PM UTC
I do have a bit of reference material which I will list below. Having sais that don't be shy about point out what I have forgotten lol.

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That's the books

Kev
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 10:44 PM UTC
Material wise ....

The full Griffon set which is insane
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Italeri PT boat set
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Which takes care of an extra 20mm if reqd

Italeri horsedrawn 20mm Breda
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Second option taken care of. The gun is on the second sprue. By the way I do have a large amount of 1/35 horse manure to spare. Not all of it will be used in this build.

Anyone any thoughts preferences between the 20mm Oerlikon and the 20mm Breda

A selection of figures
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That's it for the moment.
WIP will commence soon your comments and feedback welcome.
There is nothing worse than talking to an empty room

Cheers Kev
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 10:49 PM UTC
Looks like you will be rather busy for a while
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 10:53 PM UTC
I think that could be an under statement Thank you for your help in getting me up and running, much appreciated

Kev
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 11:54 PM UTC
So, Kev which razor blade manufacturer you will be using to remove all of the PE off the sheets? So I can buy their stock?...LOL I bet the owner of Griffin is enjoying the boost in profits this year.

You have on heck of a project there. I hope you post often so we can get all the details.

Good luck.

Mark
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 01:20 AM UTC
I used the wheels from the Italeri Breda 20/65 for a RN/RAF style torpedo trolley. The trolley is a companion piece for a Trumpeter 1/32 scale Fairey Swordfish I built. I could not let those go to waste.
Note, the depth charges in the PTConversion kit are of a different length than the depth charges found in the Vosper Kit. This may be due to USN design and RN/ Ordinance Board design differences.
The Vosper Kit is great fun. Enjoy.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 02:32 AM UTC
Hi Kev,
Armed with that arsenal of books and AM details, you will surely
do a great job with this build.

Will be following with interest!

Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 03:53 AM UTC
Wow, Kev, I love your idea! It is always great to see someone taking a slightly unusual tack on a project. I'll definitely be following this build!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 04:04 AM UTC
I think a cut away is a great idea... and a huge challenge. Definitely hope to see this develop into your aim of a high quality build.
Good luck.

Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 04:06 AM UTC
Thanks guys.

@ Mark "I hope you post often so we can get all the details"
As long as the support is there I will be posting

@Christopher "I used the wheels from the Italeri Breda ...."Good to see you recycling. Thanks for the tip off on the DC

@ Joe Cheers Buddy

@Tim "I love your idea!" Well lets just see if we can pull it off, I'm going to be relying on you guys as well.

Cheers Kev
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 01:02 PM UTC
OK here we go starting with the hull ..
First requirement is to sub-divide the hull using bulkheads
This plan will give an idea as to the divisions
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A note for those interested in scribing in panels

1 Don't try and do it in one, mark and shape 1st piece . Mark and shape 2nd piece. Glue to 1st piece and so on. Hope this makes sense, if not PM me.
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I tend to work in cardboard and then transfer to plastic

Five templates/bulkheads
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Loose fitted in the boat
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Compartments from forward Fore peak, Forward Mess deck, Accommodation (mess room, galley etc) Mid fuel cells, Engine room, Aft fuel cells.
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Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs with the scribing. It's difficult to know how much info to put in.

First step on a long voyage
Thanks for stopping by

Kev
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 06:23 PM UTC
Kev,

Thanks for the demo on scribing. Understanding how it is done comes in handy when dealing with a door that sticks in its frame.

The project begins.

Mark
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 07:35 PM UTC
Add strips of styrene to the bulkheads to provide supports for the decks in those compartments which have a full deck like the forward mess and accomodation. This will make it easier to get the decks shaped and positioned.

Don't worry about teaching us to suck eggs, those who know how to do this will simply have to take the repetition course
I think there are enough readers who haven't done anything similar and will benefit from the teaching

/ Robin
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 09:22 PM UTC
Off to a good start, look forward to following along. Al
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 10:46 PM UTC
Hello Kev, for me this is always very interesting to learn how other do things like that, it is not boring to me. from time to time I have to cut an engine frame which requires this kind of proceedings.

kind regards

christian
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2018 - 02:37 AM UTC
Great start Kev,

Will be following along with interest.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2018 - 04:09 AM UTC
Thanks for the support Gentlemen.

Slow steps forward as I try to figure out what I'm doing....

Fixed the watertight bulkheads either side of the midships full tanks

I've had to temporarily had to fix an I beam to spread the hull which was pulling in
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Sorting the floor iwo of the midships accommodation
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The wheelhouse 'cockpit' had to go...

No way to access the lower level, plus the sides are angled in to ease extraction from mould. The hatched area should not be there.
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Sides fitted, remember the way I scribed the hull bulkheads. Similar concept here for the floor
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Giving
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You can see the access now to deck below, still needs to be trimmed for depth
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Side of the wheelhouse in place

Trying to decide where / how to cut away side / deck to show radio room behind the dark hole above and the wardroom between the wheelhouse and the side
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Thanks for stopping by

Kev
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2018 - 08:02 AM UTC
Impressive piece of workmanship Kev.

Michael
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2018 - 05:21 PM UTC
Thanks Michael

Going to try give you an idea of what's going to happen ....
General internal layout
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Hatched areas to be removed
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So I'm thinking the forward area will open into the forward mess deck/ WC. The midships area into the wardroom/WC and poss radio room beyond and / or the deck area to view same. The cutaway on the wheelhouse comes from Julian Swallows (Gremlin56) who when he did his remarked that the level of detail in the wheelhouse was ridiculous as it couldn't be seen. Now hopefully it will be
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I hope this goes some way to explain my train of thought, at least as it stands today

Thanks for stopping by

Kev
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2018 - 09:11 PM UTC
Impressive work and moving along nicely. If I might make a suggestion, you might consider an opening in the roof of the wheelhouse, rather than the side, to be able to view the interior. Al
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Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2018 - 09:11 PM UTC
Hi Kev,
Really EXCELLENT work! I like your approach to the bulkheads...ingenious!
Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Friday, February 09, 2018 - 04:01 AM UTC
" If I might make a suggestion, you might consider an opening in the roof of the wheelhouse,"

You are quite right Al Life would be simpler but .....
Joking aside I'm setting out with the intention that when looked at from the Starboard side the boat will appear complete. Its only when spun around the internals will become apparent.
I have to start with a plan, whether it will stand first contact remains to be seen.

Thanks Joe and everyone else stopping by

Kev
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Posted: Friday, February 09, 2018 - 02:27 PM UTC
Going to be difficult to go back now.... lol
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This cut out is iwo wardroom looking through to radio room
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Fitted blank, two by 0.5mm card to give correct thickness to side planks
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I'm hoping to show the diagonal planking used on these boats. The outer skin are laid at 45', the inner skin at 60'. These are separated by oiled calico.
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Work started on radio shack. I'm making this as a separate module for ease of building. Started making the various boxes/radio/radar.
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and a peak through.....
always going to be difficult to show the view through
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I'm calling that progress
I have a couple of pics of the radio room but if anyone has any pics of the wardroom and / or messroom I would appreciate any help
Thanks for looking in

Kev

PS Looking at this I've realised that the inner planks are angled the wrong way Doh! Never mind can be changed later
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Posted: Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 06:17 PM UTC
Moving forward ...
Work commenced on wardroom
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Making up Tx, Rx, Radar etc. modules. This very much gizmology given a/ the lack of info and b/. the location and 'viewability' of the shack
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View through side
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That's it for now, thanks for looking in

Kev
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