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1/200 HMS Rodney with Pontos Stuff
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Posted: Sunday, July 15, 2018 - 02:01 AM UTC
Hi Warren,

Excellent work.

I've been following along in the background but thought I would finally chime in. That PE work is outstanding. I didn't realize that there were many kits in 1/200 before. I dread hitting the PE work on the Alaska. Lots of it is just way too small for me.

Steve
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Posted: Sunday, July 15, 2018 - 09:56 AM UTC
setting a cracking pace Warren and nice save on the crane!
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Posted: Monday, July 16, 2018 - 07:50 AM UTC
What Russ said,

And the Crane does look superb.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 04:16 PM UTC
Warren,

great etch work, and very nice progress! This looks really tasty - actually makes me want to try one of those 1/200 beasts...if only they were not that big...

the 6" and the crane look really good!!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2018 - 06:42 PM UTC
Thanks everyone

Now for an update on the week that was..

I continued with the catapault and the first thing I did was finish the two ends..



Fundly enough the Pontos instructions don't show the ends fited to the catapault. I assume they might go elsewhere. Next I started on the catapault body..



Then started adding bits and bobs..



Until I ended up with this ..



Then it was on to the next part of the instructions which cover the construction of the main turrets. These are nice and satisfying to build in 1/200 as they are nice and chunky. Again, the Trumpeter barrels are awesome for plastic barrels but I will be using the brass ones from Pontos. As you can see the brass barrel is notably longer than the Trumpeter barrel..



I cut off the plastic barrels..



.. but when I went to drill the holes in the plastic parts for the brass barrels I found I had no 2mm drill bits. Will have to buy a few tomorrow. Next up I started preparing the turrets for brass. First I removed the plastic pieces on the turret base that needed removing..



The plastic detail on the roof of the turrets is as good as the brass details, but there are a few items missing from the roofs so I sanded all the details up the polished the plastic to give the CA glue a nice smooth surface to attach too...



All done..



Then When I went to the post Office this afternoon there was a box from Shapeways waiting for me and four quad Vickers guns were waiting for me..

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Can't see much detail yet but should be fine after a coat of paint.

That's it for now.

Cheers
Warren




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Posted: Friday, July 20, 2018 - 04:17 AM UTC
Catapult looks great Warren.

Looking forwarding seeing progress on those big guns.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, July 20, 2018 - 10:48 AM UTC
Warren,

That catapult look wonderful, great detail.

I seen those Quads from Shapeways the other day and thought those are some good looking items.

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 - 08:15 PM UTC
Thanks Simon and Mark.

Well it has been a little while but you would think I had done nothing going on the five pictures I have to upload. I got this for my Birthday from my lovely Wife..



I also got a 1/1 scale VW Golf Cabrio but I won't post a picture of that.

Anyway, I have one important thing to say before anything else, Mr Kim at Pontos, your barrel support solution is hopeless in reality. Try slipping a small brass rod through at least four thin pieces of brass and one breaks away everytime. It looks lovely..



.. but it isn't workable. One solution maybe to make the attaching part of the brass barrels smaller and thus allow you to pass a single length of brass rod through the brass. Better still make a resin [art to replace the brass.. or something milled from a solid block of some material. So I removed all that lovely brass and decided to iuse a hybrid of kit plastic and the brass barrels. Here are the plastic bits minus the one that goes on the end AFTER you put the plastic rod through all the barrel holders..



And it comes out looking like this..



Here the plastic cement is drying to hopefully line up the barrels. I used some other brass parts that were supposed to be for something else but it hides the interior of the turrets..



So that's all for the moment.. but it may not be the end of the turret saga as I might have a go at soldering those pieces together.. but not today..

Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 12:50 AM UTC
Hi Warren,

I too find that etch manufacturers sometimes overthink their solutions and come up with elaborate but elegantly impractical constructions - your barrel mounting solution looks good so far, though!

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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 09:09 AM UTC
Agree with Tim, Warren.

Sometimes the PE is more hassle than it's worth!

Meanwhile, nice score on the Dremel! Best power tool I've ever bought!
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 07:57 PM UTC
Make that unanimous.

Good tip, I shall remember this for the Nel, when I finally get round to her.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 08:20 PM UTC

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Hi Warren,

I too find that etch manufacturers sometimes overthink their solutions and come up with elaborate but elegantly impractical constructions - your barrel mounting solution looks good so far, though!




Too right Tim. I have found this to be the case quite often, and even with 15 years of using PE it can be just not worth the hassle.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 08:22 PM UTC

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Agree with Tim, Warren.

Sometimes the PE is more hassle than it's worth!

Meanwhile, nice score on the Dremel! Best power tool I've ever bought!



Yes Russell. I have found a few instances over the years of PE designers going for too much detail and making parts unuseable. Not very common but still a hassle.

Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 08:23 PM UTC

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Make that unanimous.

Good tip, I shall remember this for the Nel, when I finally get round to her.

Cheers

Si



I am thinking more and more of doing the Nelson OOB... But I probably won't. I am too used to PE etc now.

Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - 08:36 PM UTC
Okey dokey.

I went back to the bench today and was busily gluing PE to the main turrets when I realised Pontos had failed to point out that the 6 in turrets only had one periscope each. I found this out after going to build six more periscopes only to find I could only build one more with the parts I had left. The other thing that got me is that Pontos showed you had to drill two holes in each turret which is incorrect. Only one hole is needed on the outside of the turrets depending on what side of the ship they are on. There are small caps supplied to cover the holes so I attached them and this is how they look now..



Then I got around to doing the other two barrel installations. If you remember I posted a picture of how the method looked I used, but I then decided to add some pieces of sprue between the guns for added support..



Some pieces of sprue from the kit just happened to be the right size and I flowed extra thin cement into the nooks and crannies to make sure the bar it immobile. Don't worry the barrels can still be moved, but I don't think I have ever intentionally moved a barrel in 30 years so I may just glue them as well. We shall see..

Cheers everyone
Warren
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Posted: Thursday, July 26, 2018 - 12:49 PM UTC
Love watching your work Warren, your etch skills amaze me. Following along but will be in the background. Canít wait to see the commission youíll do her proper as with all your work.
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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2018 - 06:01 AM UTC

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Love watching your work Warren, your etch skills amaze me. Following along but will be in the background. Canít wait to see the commission youíll do her proper as with all your work.



Thanks Norman.
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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2018 - 09:20 PM UTC
Hi Warren,

Nice progress, 6" mount looks good. I see Pontos instructions still have their little foibles. Mind they are an improvement on the original Dreadnought and Warspite sets.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 02:58 PM UTC

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Hi Warren,

Nice progress, 6" mount looks good. I see Pontos instructions still have their little foibles. Mind they are an improvement on the original Dreadnought and Warspite sets.

Cheers

Si



But I didn't have any trouble with either of those..
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 08:18 PM UTC
Back again.

I finished off the basics of the main turrets..

1...



2...



3...



I know they might be A, B and Z but that is not important. Then I continued on the Walruses (Walri?)



and the engine pods. Looks a bit like a piglet..





Next it was on to the hull. First drilled out over two hundred port holes and then I removed a few mould seams and attached the hull strakes..



Big but not too hard using Tamiya Extra Thin cement. Lastly I attached the prop shafy supports and rudder..



That's all for now.

Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Monday, July 30, 2018 - 12:09 AM UTC
200 port holes!

I think you're crazy
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Posted: Monday, July 30, 2018 - 11:35 AM UTC

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200 port holes!

I think you're crazy



Please note my signature... and I haven't put all the brass port hole bits in place yet..
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Posted: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 - 12:35 AM UTC

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Quoted Text

200 port holes!

I think you're crazy



Please note my signature... and I haven't put all the brass port hole bits in place yet..


oh lord!
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 08:25 AM UTC
Hi Warren,

Walrus's (Walri??) look good, as does the brass on the main turrets.

good luck with all the port holes.

Cheers

Si