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HMS MALCOLM SCOTT CLASS FLOTILLA LEADER 1/
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Posted: Friday, October 19, 2018 - 09:55 AM UTC
Sure does. Thanks.
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Posted: Friday, October 19, 2018 - 08:43 AM UTC

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One of the reasons I am following this thread on a regular basis is that I have grown tired of USN destroyers. There is only so much that you can do to a Fletcher, and I have reached a point where I believe I could put one together in my sleep, and all the fun of building is, at least temporarily, gone.

What I have done is turned my attention to the IJN, DKM, and RN DD's. AJM has a dealer in the States and offer four kits. I am tempted, and after I do Ashanti, I may go down that road. How do AJM products compare with Atlantic RN DD's. Slightly different era, but still in relatively the same time frame. They too have products that interest my greatly, but no dealer in the States seems to carry them, and the postage from the UK would add greatly to the cost. Still though if the quality of Atlantic is on par with what you say about AJM it may in the end be worth it to score some DD models that you do not see, and probably will never see, in plastic.




Hi Chuck,

The Atlantic / WEM and AJM are both very good, but different. AJM kits contain somewhat more small detail parts, but are less refined in other areas. Both have very complete etch, and enough brass rod for masts & yards.

I would say the WEM kits are easier to build, but you do need to find one or two detail bits for yourself, particularly for the bridge (North Star, or a bit of scratchbuilding can solve that.) One the upside their etch generally gives you options for different fits.

If you dig back through this section for my build of HMS Hesperus & U93, The Hesperus is typical of the Atlantic / WEM range.


The Atlantic website has some links to reviews and also scans of the instructions. The have some interesting destroyers, G, H, JKN, S & V classes, plus a US built four piper in RN service and a castle class corvette.

I will be buying at least one more AJM Scott, likely the kit in the original fit.

Hope that helps.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, October 19, 2018 - 05:50 AM UTC
One of the reasons I am following this thread on a regular basis is that I have grown tired of USN destroyers. There is only so much that you can do to a Fletcher, and I have reached a point where I believe I could put one together in my sleep, and all the fun of building is, at least temporarily, gone.

What I have done is turned my attention to the IJN, DKM, and RN DD's. AJM has a dealer in the States and offer four kits. I am tempted, and after I do Ashanti, I may go down that road. How do AJM products compare with Atlantic RN DD's. Slightly different era, but still in relatively the same time frame. They too have products that interest my greatly, but no dealer in the States seems to carry them, and the postage from the UK would add greatly to the cost. Still though if the quality of Atlantic is on par with what you say about AJM it may in the end be worth it to score some DD models that you do not see, and probably will never see, in plastic.
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Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2018 - 07:10 PM UTC

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Si,

I would say you got more than a bit into it yesterday. Very nice work, she is really shaping up nicely.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

Sometimes it happens, you just get properly into the zone on a build that has been a bit slowly - slowly.

I would like to see a bit more in British WW2 destroyers from AJM, they are well detailed, and apart from the replaced 20mm this will be pretty much OOB.

Thanks for looking in.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2018 - 11:17 AM UTC
Si,

I would say you got more than a bit into it yesterday. Very nice work, she is really shaping up nicely.

Mark
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Posted: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 - 08:16 PM UTC
Got a bit into this yesterday.

After funnel built and ready for paint.



Radar lantern.



Leeson in a picture, even old hands need to study the instructions closely.



I had to remove the Torpedo tubes to fit the platform.

Bridge details fitted.



The Kit 20mm had resin barrels, which had failed, so infini model parts were substituted.





TTs refitted, and supports in place for the 3" gun platform.



Bridge and radar in place.



Paintwork on the radar needs a little tidying.

After funnel painted and in place.



X gundeck fitted, again a little tidying needed. Also in that picture, the screws are on (if out of focus).


An overview.



what is troubling me slightly I the amount of etch and resin still to get on this ship.

Cheers

Si






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Posted: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 - 06:51 AM UTC

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Just keep the decals in mind at Telford, and please report back on what you find out.

In the meantime continue on with Malcolm to provide the inspiration I need for Ashanti.



Hi Chuck will do,

I am going to be on the hunt for them myself.

Another update, and much more substantial to follow shortly.


Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 - 01:53 AM UTC
Just keep the decals in mind at Telford, and please report back on what you find out.

In the meantime continue on with Malcolm to provide the inspiration I need for Ashanti.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 - 07:16 PM UTC

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Simon: While I am thinking about RN destroyers, and your outstanding build of Malcolm, a quick question if you don't mind.

I have Trumpeter's Zulu and Eskimo in my to do pile, and I would like to do Zulu, as Ashanti, before the war, as commissioned.

I know Trumpeter's three Tribal's have issues with the bow, and the over scale main gun mounts. I am prepared to live with the bow, and there is aftermarket for the gun mounts.


So far though I can't seem to find decals for the pennant numbers. Resin Shipyard/Hawk Graphics lists them on their web site, but they are unresponsive and I think they might be out of business, which is a shame. They made quality products. So, do you know of a source for both wartime and post war pennant number decals?




Hi Chuck,

Thank your for you kind comment. I'm afraid the Hawk Graphics decals are the ones I rely on. I am getting close to needing to source some more.

I am going up to the UK Nationals at Telford, there will be a number of traders / aftermatket guys I will be having a chat with. if I come with anything (Not holding my breath) will let you know.

Sorry I cannot be more help.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 - 06:36 AM UTC
Simon: While I am thinking about RN destroyers, and your outstanding build of Malcolm, a quick question if you don't mind.

I have Trumpeter's Zulu and Eskimo in my to do pile, and I would like to do Zulu, as Ashanti, before the war, as commissioned.

I know Trumpeter's three Tribal's have issues with the bow, and the over scale main gun mounts. I am prepared to live with the bow, and there is aftermarket for the gun mounts.

So far though I can't seem to find decals for the pennant numbers. Resin Shipyard/Hawk Graphics lists them on their web site, but they are unresponsive and I think they might be out of business, which is a shame. They made quality products. So, do you know of a source for both wartime and post war pennant number decals?
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:39 PM UTC

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getting there Si...

amazing how much detail they cram into these little uns!



Thanks Russ,

And they have gone for it on this one, Moved this up the priority list, so more progress soon.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:37 PM UTC
getting there Si...

amazing how much detail they cram into these little uns!
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 09:58 PM UTC

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Si,

Glad to see you got them off the mounts without damage. I most likely would have.
I thought the breakwater would face the other way with the ribs supporting the breakwater into the waves?

Mark



Hi Mark,


Thanks for looking in, the web holding the breakwater to the casting block was very thin, and a couple of runs with the back of a knife point and it came a way easily.


The breakwater is the right way round mate, the supports are facing for'd and it is angled into the oncoming waves.



Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 11:20 AM UTC
Si,

Glad to see you got them off the mounts without damage. I most likely would have.
I thought the breakwater would face the other way with the ribs supporting the breakwater into the waves?

Mark
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 05:08 AM UTC
After a bit of hiatus on this some very small progress yesterday.


The Resin breakwater is a very nice casting indeed, and came away cleanly from it's mount.



On the other hand, the hedgehog was a little simple and a might I say clumsy.



May look better under a coat of paint.

The breakwater and locker fitted to the foredeck,



More extensive update soon.

Cheers

Si.


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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 05:34 AM UTC
The forward funnel assembled.



Boiler room vent and carley float rack .



Torpedo tubes.



detail on the underside of the tubes, and searchlight platform ready for fitting.



funnel & vent ready for fitting.



and in place.



More soon.

Si

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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2018 - 11:01 PM UTC

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Bridge looks good already.

On a side note, that radar lantern has to be one of the best I've seen in this scale




It is really well cast, the radar lantern is very crisp too. The detail is great in this kit, but it is not for the faint hearted.


Thanks for looking in. Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2018 - 09:35 AM UTC
Bridge looks good already.

On a side note, that radar lantern has to be one of the best I've seen in this scale
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2018 - 08:31 AM UTC

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That compass platform detail does look nice. Making nice progress since the last post.

Mark



I reckon it is amongst the best I have seen, nice magnetic compass & gyro repeater included as separate parts, along with lookout posts etc too.

It nice to see a resin manufacturer take time with this area, as it does catch the eye on the finished model.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2018 - 07:29 AM UTC
That compass platform detail does look nice. Making nice progress since the last post.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2018 - 06:52 AM UTC
Quick update on today's progress.

B gundeck and the Bridge base coated, the support legs for lower bridgewings have also been fitted.



The ready use ammunition locker for Hedgehog has some very nice etched detail for the doors.



B gundeck in place, WA green camo along the lower front painted in.



The moulded on detail on the compass platform painted in, and very nice it is too.



The camo strip along the top done & the Nav lights picked out.



More soon.

Cheers

Si


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Posted: Friday, August 24, 2018 - 07:13 AM UTC
Thanks Mark

I know what you mean, especially when it is an interesting camo job.

I must not forget to find a stand and get the props on before I get too much done on the superstructure.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2018 - 08:06 AM UTC
Nice progress. I always like it when I finish all of the hull and deck painting. It always seems like a lot of work for so little progress. Looking forward to your next post.

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2018 - 07:45 AM UTC
Main & fo'c's'le decks paint job done.



Base parts of the pompom platform fitted in place.



Pompom platform in place, it takes two single 2 pdrs.



The upper part of the bridge assembled and test fitted on to B gun.




More soon

Si
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Posted: Friday, August 17, 2018 - 05:40 AM UTC

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That color scheme must have been picked by a interior decorator because that color green goes very well with the gray. Nice work.

Mark



Hi Mark,

Strangely it was a naturalist, Sir Peter Scott who is credited with designing these schemes.

Thanks for your kind comment, It is an attractive scheme.

Cheers

Si