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1/350 Kleiner Kreuzer Emden - Tsingtau 1913
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:30 PM UTC
Very nice work with the Etch Thomas, This looks like one of Eduard better ship sets.

Following along with interest, and getting very tempted to have a got at one of these myself.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:09 PM UTC
Looking good Thomas

Certainly the brass is a massive improvement over the styrene parts
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 09:18 PM UTC
Caught up on this Thomas. Great work with the PE which as always adds so much more detail to a kit, especially these older ones.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 09:00 AM UTC
HI Thomas,
That PE certainly looks better than the plastic, my friend. I'm really looking forward to seeing this ship come to completion. I don't think I would ever try it without the PE and I really don't like much PE.

I generally don't put my photos in another persons build logs, but since you asked I'll do so. They are old photos and not very good, but I hope they give you the ideas you seek. They are meant to show the ship at the battle of Ushant, 9 June 1944.












Once done I took some "mood shots" with a heavy-weather background photos:








I would have taken fresh photos today, but the model has grown fuzzy with dust over time. Hope you like.

Gaz

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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 07:25 AM UTC
Out of fun I built the kitīs simplified plastic bridge just as a comparison for my new photoetched bridge compartment. Already a big difference eh?



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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 06:03 AM UTC
Ahoy, its update time again! Although there is maybe not that much to see as expected (hey the ship is small) I really was busy with replacing all these plastic compartments with the etched parts of EDUARDīs Part 1 set. And I already used about 75% of it now.


The most tricky part was to get the two differend ellipsoid shape of both the armored bridge and the usual Bridge. I heatened the photoetched parts and this allowed me the bending over a drill and get the shapes as I needed. The upper bridge compartment is not even with its upper deck surface. Therefore I had to make me a small distance ring out of styrene between the floor and the sidewalls. It has to get cleaned up than there will nothing of it to be seen later. Until now I am happy about that build.

Complete view of the ship dry fitted:


Frontal view of the bridge:


Backside view of the Bridge - there are still a lot parts missing. Actually I will need to paint the interior first before I glue everything together:


front midship:


aft midship:



Cheers
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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 05:51 AM UTC

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Hi Thomas!

Just a head's up on those printed parts: They're nylon and it doesn't take too well to paint, so be careful with them...

Last but not least, don't burn out adding detail to areas that wont be seen-just my 2cents



Thanks for that tip my friend, I think I will prime them first with a enamel color and then we will see how things are going.

You are Right about the detailing of the guns under deck. I will not continue the detailing of These compartments as you can barely can see anything there. Just the protruding guns will be the eyecatcher.


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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 05:48 AM UTC

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If you want to go down the road of modelling madness, buy enough figures to have every station manned for battle.

I did a Z-32 in 1/350 with 86 crewmen at their battle stations. Still... better a full crew than no crew.

Gaz



Gaz may I see a pic of your Z-32? I would be very interested to see it. Must have quite some work to paint an place such a lot crew members.

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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 05:47 AM UTC

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Thomas,

I paint my chains but you can try putting those bass chains in gun bluing to turn them black. Have you tried you-tube for how to videos on coloring chains. I believe I have run across several in the past.

The photo-etch superstructure pieces in your photos, did you glue them together or solder them? I was just wondering how you got the corners so square?

Found the turnbuckles at this hobby shop on line; https://www.ssnmodellbau.de/Photoetch-14/Photoetch-1-350/North-Star-Models-99/?page=3. I believe for 6.5 euros.


Mark



Ok I will try to darken my chains with vinegar. No idea if this will work.

Until now I didnīt used soldering, just because I donīt own that Equipment. But one day I will try that too. All parts are just glued. A proper bending tool is very helpful here though!

The turnbuckles in this shop are already gone. I did checked it before. But thank you for your efforts


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Posted: Monday, October 08, 2018 - 10:44 PM UTC
Hi Thomas!

looking good!

FWIW I paint my anchor chains. I use enamel paints so don't experience the paint flaking off.

Just a head's up on those printed parts: They're nylon and it doesn't take too well to paint, so be careful with them...

Last but not least, don't burn out adding detail to areas that wont be seen-just my 2cents
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Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 11:59 PM UTC

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If you want to go down the road of modelling madness, buy enough figures to have every station manned for battle.

I did a Z-32 in 1/350 with 86 crewmen at their battle stations. Still... better a full crew than no crew.

Gaz



Hey Gary,did you ever see this one,talk about madness,but very impressive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wggei32XrLo
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Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 05:40 PM UTC
If you want to go down the road of modelling madness, buy enough figures to have every station manned for battle.

I did a Z-32 in 1/350 with 86 crewmen at their battle stations. Still... better a full crew than no crew.

Gaz
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Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 12:12 PM UTC

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Tim, extra for you - just in case you will come one day as a guest to us and crouching down in front of my Emden and stirring around with a penlight...


Thanks Thomas! Though I may make fun of you, I too have gone down that road of detail madness:

May your interiors be more visible than mine!

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Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 02:18 AM UTC
Thomas,

I paint my chains but you can try putting those bass chains in gun bluing to turn them black. Have you tried you-tube for how to videos on coloring chains. I believe I have run across several in the past.

The photo-etch superstructure pieces in your photos, did you glue them together or solder them? I was just wondering how you got the corners so square?

Found the turnbuckles at this hobby shop on line; https://www.ssnmodellbau.de/Photoetch-14/Photoetch-1-350/North-Star-Models-99/?page=3. I believe for 6.5 euros.


Mark
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Posted: Friday, October 05, 2018 - 11:46 PM UTC
Two questions for the educated audience:

1) where can I get those blackened anchor chains? (why does the usual aftermarked companies who sell the veneer decks include just the brass colored chains?!) Or can I blacken my chains by myself in an easy way without painting? Painted chains will loose their primer color very soon I learned the hard way.

2) I desperately look for Northstarmodels 350070 tightening screws and eybolds in 1/350 for this build but it seems no one carries them; even Northstarsmodels have them out of stock for quite some time now. Some tips were to find these?


Thanks for your help in advance!
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Posted: Friday, October 05, 2018 - 11:37 PM UTC
As I have had two days off work I was able to continue with my Emden. I glued on some Details at the outer ships hull and started with some etched superstructures at the ships middle part. So far the progress:




I am still unsure how to continue - prebuild as much as possible of the pe-structures first and paint them later before Installation at the ship or build and glue them on first and paint them altogether later...

Anyhow first needed to be the guns of the tween decks get some paint on. Therefore I showed a comparison of the protected and unprotected main guns between the excellent Shapeways products and the ships plastic guns:







In german we say there is a difference "like day and night".

Cheers
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Posted: Friday, October 05, 2018 - 11:28 PM UTC

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I was wondering if you were going to add any features to the inside walls. Will you be adding boxes or cable runs to the walls to along with the door?

Mark




Not yet decided about that Mark. At least the bow and stern gun compartment openings are so small - you will not even see the doors exept Tim with his penlight
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Posted: Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 09:17 AM UTC
I was wondering if you were going to add any features to the inside walls. Will you be adding boxes or cable runs to the walls to along with the door?

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 08:04 AM UTC

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Thomas,
I'm glad to be following along. I never bought this kit because of the guns. But now, I think I will.

Loving the work you've done so far!

Gaz




Gaz, welcome aboard to you, too. There is always enough room at the ship for new passengers
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Posted: Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 08:02 AM UTC

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...In the end not much of these compartments will be seen but I wanted to depict hatches open to see the nice guns better.



Thomas,

They might ultimately be hard to see, the gun positions look cool! So what if viewers will have to crouch down and look in with penlights?!




Tim, extra for you - just in case you will come one day as a guest to us and crouching down in front of my Emden and stirring around with a penlight:







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Posted: Thursday, October 04, 2018 - 07:49 AM UTC

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Thomas,

Nice idea opening up those positions so those guns are more exposed. Are you going to show any of the armor doors in a stowage position?

Mark



Hi Mark, not sure what you mean with "stowage position" - If you mean here opened - yes I will show all armored hatches opened later.

Cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 - 06:49 PM UTC
Ripper progress Thomas!
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Posted: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 - 12:53 PM UTC

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...In the end not much of these compartments will be seen but I wanted to depict hatches open to see the nice guns better.



Thomas,

They might ultimately be hard to see, the gun positions look cool! So what if viewers will have to crouch down and look in with penlights?!

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Posted: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 - 08:30 AM UTC
Thomas,
I'm glad to be following along. I never bought this kit because of the guns. But now, I think I will.

Loving the work you've done so far!

Gaz
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Posted: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 - 07:45 AM UTC
Thomas,

Nice idea opening up those positions so those guns are more exposed. Are you going to show any of the armor doors in a stowage position?

Mark