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redalb2253
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 06:52 AM UTC
Hey guys quick question first time using acylic paintwhats good to thin it with I'm using Lifecolor german Camo paint, thanks
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 07:17 AM UTC
What i always got told is to use the thinner that's made by the same manufacturer as the paint. So I always stuck with that and haven't had any problems.

That's where I would start.
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 07:22 AM UTC
That's what I thought too didn't want to wait, thanks.
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 02:39 PM UTC
Lifecolor recommends either water or their thinner.

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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 02:40 AM UTC
For the most part I use just plain old distilled water. Used it on everything except Tamiya and Mission Models and its worked great.
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 03:18 AM UTC
if I am to believe what I read, thinner "thinning" causes separation.


look at your brush cleaning jar of, well, thinner. see all the sediment in the bottom?


acrylic paints should be made thinner with a medium in order to preserve their colloidal property.


of course the next ten replies will tell you i'm incorrect.


but this tips into the "philosophy of weathering" of which I've grown so fond . . .
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 06:31 AM UTC

Quoted Text

if I am to believe what I read, thinner "thinning" causes separation.


look at your brush cleaning jar of, well, thinner. see all the sediment in the bottom?


acrylic paints should be made thinner with a medium in order to preserve their colloidal property.



Well, don't believe everything that you read.

Look at a fresh bottle of paint whether acrylic, enamel or even lacquer and where is
the pigment sitting...on the bottom, yet the paint at this point is not thinned.

Fact is that pigment particles are heavier than the carrier liquid therefore they will
"naturally" settle on the bottom.

Thinning has nothing to do with it...all thinning does is changes the viscosity so that it
allows proper performance of the paint for the required method of application: AB, brush etc.
and effects one seeks.

And we shake or stir before use to restore temporary "colloidal property"

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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 07:35 AM UTC
Thanks for the help guys trying to transition to acrylics so this is new, what about a primer will enamel primer work or will the Acrylic not stay on?
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 12:15 PM UTC

Quoted Text

don't believe everything that you read...




got it.
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 01:42 PM UTC
Hi Steve,

Yes you are good to go with an enamel primer or even a lacquer
one such as the Tamiya gray(fine). It will create "tooth" for
the acrylics to grab on to.
The trick with primer is to spray a light coat or two, if necessary and not flood the model.

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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2019 - 05:11 AM UTC
Thanks for the help now off to paint my Scharnhorst.
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2019 - 07:09 AM UTC

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trick with primer is to spray a light coat or two, if necessary and not flood the model.




good advice; thanks. I have been guilty of trying get a wet coat on everything. fortunately, the paint manufacturer is smarter than me and formulated the primer to shrink down beyond my enthusiasm.


I need to be mindful of this in future undertakings.