General Ship Modeling: Creating Ship Dioramas
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 02:16 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 04:03 AM UTC
Anchors.
Victory carried seven anchors,2 Bowers,2 Sheets,1 Stream,2 Kedge.
The pic above is one of the Bower anchors.These anchors kept the ship from drifting.The flucks(hooks)stuck in the seabed and helped keep the anchor from shifting.

The anchor's cables huge weight was what really stopped the ship from moving when at anchor.Because of the combined weight of anchor and cable the whole crew had to help haul it in .
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 08:24 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 11:03 AM UTC
The Figurehead etc...
The figurehead on the Victory is a shield of the coat-of arms of Great Britain.Normally painted, but I chose to finish mine in gold which I think goes better with wood/brass color scheme.
The two ports at the bow with the vertical doors open to the sick bay.
The cathead,the angled beam that the blue and white officer is standing on contains a sheave block or pulley for lashing the anchor for storage.
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 04:47 AM UTC
Bobstays and Bowsprit shrouds.
Three bobstays are fitted between the head and the bowsprit.Note that the stays are wormed, parceled and served as required.I used linen line for this ,which I made up on a ropewalk constructed from old mechanno parts.
The forestay and fore preventer stay have large wooded hearts at their ends,which are reeved togethe
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 05:20 AM UTC
HMS Victory Rigging.
If you guys would like I will post the sequence that I used to rig this ship.I kept a log over the many years of building this ship so I might as well put it to good use.
I have noticed that most books on rigging actually do not give you a step by step rigging sequence which leads to a lot of confusion.
My model is more than just "harbour rigged "as I wanted to depict the ship as she would be just before hauling up the sails from storage and repair.
In the beginning I will give just the basic sequence and if I get the time I will fill in the details as to rope sizes etc...
Because I post to more than just ship related websites,please let me know if you are interested and if so,I could start a new thread just dealing with this subject. Cheers! John.
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 03:22 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 08:20 AM UTC
Beautiful work John. Stunning.


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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 04:55 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 05:09 AM UTC
This post was from another thread on another website but I thought that you guys might be interested.

Wow, spectacular model. A great showpiece of skill and patience. The rigging... unbelievable.
But, the figures are very distracting to me. Uniforms are too blue/red etc and too glossy. Colours are way too saturated - they ought to fade with distance.

My response:
Actually that was done on purpose so that the figures would not get lost in the rest of the detail.This is a decorative,storyboard type diorama and is meant to tell the story of life at sea on one of these old warships.The figures are really more important than the rest of the diorama in my view.This diorama was done for children and the young at heart and is an educational tool. The intense coloration helps me tell the story.
Cheers! John.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 05:02 AM UTC
The best book on rigging sequence that I am aware of is in a book that I picked up over 30 years ago in a hobby shop called HMS Victory,Classic Ships,Their history and how to model them #1. by Noel C.L. Hackney. ISBN 0 85059 053 1
I picked up this book for $1.95 back then.It is probably long out of print but I know that it was available up until a few years ago when I passed this info on to a another modeler and he managed to find a copy somewhere.
It was published in 1970 by
Patrick Stephens Ltd,
London EC1,England.
in association with Airfix Products Ltd,London SW18,England.
If anyone finds a supplier ,please let me know.Good luck ! Cheers. John.

You may also want to try:
http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 03:57 AM UTC
Another pic
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 05:47 AM UTC
As far as I know.....
this is the only ship model that there is of HMS Victory as a storyboard diorama, complete with scale figures .I have searched the web and I have never seen another anywhere in books,mags etc...
If anyone out there knows of another I sure would like to know about it ,if for nothing else just to satisfy my own curiosity .Thanks! Cheers. John.
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 04:38 AM UTC
Found one! 1/24 scale wow!

http://www.hmship.com/html/left_zeromargins.html
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 04:50 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 05:28 AM UTC
Classic Marine type Dolphins.
This is where my other hobby woodcarving came in handy.I carved this classic design from cherry wood.Two of these plus a center piece, screwed into the base, support the ship.The base itself is African cherry wood of a slightly different color and the plexiglass cases base is American walnut.All these woods were especially selected to harmonize with the ships copper plates.
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 02:28 PM UTC
Hi ya John,
I've been working on and off Panart's 1:78th scale Victory for about 6 years now. Actually, I had everything completed from the deck down in a couple of months, but then I got hooked on 1:350 WW2 Pacific. It was only in the middle of last year that I got the erge again and decided to add the masts, spars and rigging. When that was completed, I decided to add sails and a crew. Not as easy as I thought. I had to cut off most of the rigging off and raise the spars from no-sails to sailing position and you know, adding sails just about doubles the amount of rigging. Well I'm at about 95% complete now, rigging nearly done (about 10 hours work left), crew painted and ready to board then inspiration left me again (all these great 1:350 IJN subjects being released) Actually, I am building the mounting board, slipway style, during breaks from the Akagi at the moment, but that's about it. I also have a number of wooden ships to be built (if I ever get around to them, but I will never add sail's again, just too much rigging.
Here's a couple of photo's of my long term effort.



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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 05:15 AM UTC
Very nice! Well I guess that makes three of us.Thanks for the pics.Cheers! John.
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 05:33 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 11:11 AM UTC
another pic