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Wilhelm Bauer colors
gbkirsch
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:42 AM UTC
Ahoy Mates,

Does anyone here know what colors the Wilhelm Bauer (former U type XXI) would have been painted in during the 1960's? From the box art and at least one other photo I found in a XXI book, it seemed like it was dark gray on the visible portion of the hull and on the conning tower. Any ideas???

Thanks,
Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:08 PM UTC
As long as I'm asking about the Wilhelm Bauer, does anyone know the correct hull colors for a Chinese type 33???

Thanks,
Gary
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:59 AM UTC
Ahoy,

1. Can not help you with the chinese colors. Maybe someone else fills in or you may start a new thread.

2. Regarding the Wilhelm Bauer you may want to gain a personal impression by looking at these pictures:
Click: Wikimedia Bridge Wilhelm Bauer 1963
Click: Wikimedia Total Wilhelm Bauer 1963

Other than that, the Bundesmarine (=German Navy) generally used colors according to RAL specification.
For this you may find the following information interesting:

Light coloring:
Bridge, Hull, all horizintal superstructure: RAL 7035
Decks: RAL 7012
Demarcation Line arround CWL: RAL 9005
Under water hull/ship: RAL 3009

Dark coloring:
Bridge, Hull, all horizintal superstructure: RAL 7000
Decks: RAL 7012
Demarcation Line arround CWL: RAL 9005
Under water hull/ship: RAL 3000

As for the Wilhelm Bauer in that time period it does not seem to be RAL 7000 nor RAL 7035.

However RAL 7000 equals to

  • Hobby Color - Gunze Sangyo No. H337
  • Humbrol No. 145
  • Revell No. 57
  • Testors / Model Master No. 1721

RAL 7035 equals to

  • Hobby Color - Gunze Sangyo No. H338
  • Humbrol No. 196
  • Revell No. 371

I am discussing this on a german board and may come up with something more detailed. Donīt hold your breath though.
Personally I feel like the Wilhelm Bauer has been painted RAL 7012 which equals to

  • Humbrol No. 78
  • Revell No. 77 / 378


Please take the reference to other manufacturers paints as an approximation.
Hope this helps some.
gbkirsch
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 12:38 PM UTC
Dr Who 2,

Vielen Dank! I can't thank you enough. I have been searching for photos for some time and these are perfect and the info is very thorough!

Thanks again!

The Best,
Gary
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