Tamiya 1/700 Z Class Destroyer
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Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 08:22 AM UTC
Scott Espin
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Posted: Monday, November 23, 2009 - 03:49 AM UTC
"Hark, now hear the sailors cry
Smell the sea and feel the sky
Let your soul and spirit fly into the mystic
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Posted: Monday, November 23, 2009 - 04:53 AM UTC
Thanks Kenny, I hope fo finish up the superstructure sub-assemblies tonight and should be laying paint in a day or two.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Monday, November 23, 2009 - 04:55 AM UTC
I've had my eye on that kit for a while. Thanks for sharing your build with us!
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:36 AM UTC
Scott Espin
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:26 AM UTC
Here's a shot with a penny so you can see how small this thing is.

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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 03:03 PM UTC
"Hark, now hear the sailors cry
Smell the sea and feel the sky
Let your soul and spirit fly into the mystic
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 07:25 PM UTC
Nice ship, I have one of these underways too - i have found the masts very hard to get strait, and it might be helpful replacing them with brass wire.
Do you paln on adding any etch?
Cheers/jan
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Posted: Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:36 AM UTC
Originally I was planning on building the first straight out of the box, with the 2nd one in the kit getting the full treatment. However, I had ordered a PE set for my Prinz Eugen including a generic set of AA guns and I'm considering using the PE AA guns on this one since the sets are only $5. I'll decide today or tomorrow if I'm going to use them on this build.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 08:49 AM UTC
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Nice ship, I have one of these underways too - i have found the masts very hard to get strait, and it might be helpful replacing them with brass wire.
Cheers/jan
I spent some time looking over my references and concluded that the masts should not be completely vertical, they angle back a noticable amount.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 02:55 AM UTC
What's the consensus on the accuracy of the kit? I think I read somewhere that certain details are not accurate, but I haven't seen the kit in person so I don't have a clue. Actually- the point could probably be made that I don't have a clue regardless!
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 04:22 AM UTC
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What's the consensus on the accuracy of the kit? I think I read somewhere that certain details are not accurate, but I haven't seen the kit in person so I don't have a clue. Actually- the point could probably be made that I don't have a clue regardless!
I did an in-box review of the kit that should be posted any day now. The only real accuracy issue with the kit are the main turrents. In reality, the backside of them should be open as they were not enclosed. Also, the kit has the guns laying in a trough which cuts across the top so the guns elevate from the middle of the turret, which is completely wrong. The tops were enclosed and there should only be an elongated opening in the front and on the front beveled edge of the turret. I'll post some pics when I get a chace to show you what I mean.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 04:53 AM UTC
Scott Espin
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 03:59 AM UTC

The main mast has a slight curve to it, not sure if I'll be able to get it completely straight.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 04:18 AM UTC
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The main mast has a slight curve to it, not sure if I'll be able to get it completely straight.
Hi Scott
My advice would be to replace the mast by brass rod or a scratchbuilt one from stretched sprue or evergreen...
Brass rod is the better way, it will also cope with the rigging
Hope this helps
Rui
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 06:28 AM UTC
Scott Espin
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 03:45 AM UTC
I'm in the process of fabricating a replacement main mast with brass rod, this should look and work much better than the kit part.... I hope.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 02:09 PM UTC
I'm still patiently awaiting the arrival of the PE railings, AA Guns and Radars. I decided to do both ships, Z37 and Z39 with the PE add ons and I think I'm ready to attempt such an undertaking.
In the mean time, here are some photos to illustrate the inaccuracies of the main single mounts. Note on the photo of the real thing how flat and agled the front plate is. There is a perpendicular to the barrel the top of the turret near the front. When you look at the kit parts see how off the turrets are? The kit parts have the barrel lay in a groove on the top, when the guns should be sticking out of the face. Also the bulge is at the rear of the turret top parallel with the guns. Not even close to the real thing.

Scott Espin
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 07:18 AM UTC
Very nice work so far.
I have started working on one of my own, tossing in PE sets and parts from Lions Roar, Tauro, Tom's, and White Ensign as well as some scratching and bashing. I am planning on getting a thread going in a day or two.
I enjoyed your review.
Jay Massey
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 07:36 AM UTC
Ah-a!
Welcome back Jay!!!
Long time no see - is everything ok with you? I really hope so!
It's good to have you aboard again
Cheers,
Rui
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 07:43 AM UTC
Thanks Jay, I appreciate the comments and the interest. The Lion Roar PE sets I ordered finally arrived from Hong Kong so I can get back to work on these Destroyers.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 03:57 PM UTC
Hi Scott and Rui,
Sounds great Scott, I just got done wadding up a couple of ladders from the Lion's Roar Extra Ladders Set for mine.
Jay Massey
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Posted: Friday, January 08, 2010 - 01:24 AM UTC
Great work so far Scott, look forward to the rest. Great pic on the single mount, really shows how "off" is the plastic version.
PS - Welcome back jay!