Click on the Scarica Allerato button and it will open a pdf file.
http://www.italeri.com/DettaglioNews.aspx?NEWS=00057
Al
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AlanL
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Posted: Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 12:25 AM UTC
I see some images of the kit over on the Italeri Site.
Click on the Scarica Allerato button and it will open a pdf file.
http://www.italeri.com/DettaglioNews.aspx?NEWS=00057
Al
Click on the Scarica Allerato button and it will open a pdf file.
http://www.italeri.com/DettaglioNews.aspx?NEWS=00057
Al
alross2
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Posted: Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 12:37 AM UTC
Slurp!!!! 
Between this and the Vosper, this is going to be a good year!
Al Ross
Between this and the Vosper, this is going to be a good year!Al Ross
Gunny
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Posted: Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 01:08 AM UTC
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Slurp!!!!
Al Ross
My-oh-my...I'll second that motion, Mr. Ross!!
AlanL
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Posted: Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 01:49 AM UTC
Any of these captuted and used by the RN? 
Al
Al
TAFFY3
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Posted: Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 10:24 AM UTC
Very interesting indeed, does anyone have any idea how big this beast is? I couldn't find any info on these boats. It looks to be smaller than the Elco 80'er. 
Al
Alalross2
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Posted: Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 12:08 PM UTC
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Very interesting indeed, does anyone have any idea how big this beast is? I couldn't find any info on these boats. It looks to be smaller than the Elco 80'er.
This group (MAS 566-576) measured 18.7m x 4.7m (about 61.35' x 15.42'). As many of the earlier boats had the same dimensions and general configuration, there's lots of potential for kit-bashing. Two of the earlier boats (MAS 540, 545) were converted to gunboats (MT 540, MT 545), the torpedo launching gear being replaced by two BREDA 20mm/65s.
Comprehensive coverage of all the MAS is provided in MAS E MEZZI D'ASSALTO DI SUPERFICIE ITALIANI by Erminio Bagnasco (2002). Nearly identical coverage is provided in his earlier I MAS E LE MOTOSILURANTI ITALIANE (1969)
These boats carried a number of camouflage schemes and these are well covered, including the correct designations, in LA MIMETIZZAZIONE DELLE NAVI ITALIANE 1940-1945 by Bagnasco and Brescia (2006).
All of these books are well worth having for this project.
Al Ross
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Posted: Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 08:58 PM UTC
Great looking model of a great looking boat, real Italian class.
I have been looking forward to this one for a while.
Si
I have been looking forward to this one for a while.
Si
dioman13
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Posted: Friday, October 08, 2010 - 02:43 AM UTC
Now all we need is some 1/35th support ships, and enough lumber and concrete for docks. This is really nice. O.K. Al, here's the rest of your navy!
TAFFY3
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Posted: Friday, October 08, 2010 - 04:14 AM UTC
Thanks for the info Al, I figure that would make the model about 22" long. Just trying to calculate how much available shelf space I'm going to need. The model looks to be of a different type than the wartime photo of the boat provided by Italeri. I think the type the model depicts is a lot more interesting looking though. Al (P.S.) Hey Bob, I'll build the boats, you build the Naval base. Al
The model looks to be of a different type than the wartime photo of the boat provided by Italeri. I think the type the model depicts is a lot more interesting looking though. Al (P.S.) Hey Bob, I'll build the boats, you build the Naval base. Alalross2
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Posted: Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:26 PM UTC
Just to stir up the pot a bit, here are a couple illustrations from MAS E MEZZO D'ASSALTO. Both are typical of the graphics in this book. The drawing shows one of the gunboat (MT) conversions.
Al Ross
Al Ross
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Posted: Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 10:01 PM UTC
Nice Pic Al, do I assume correctly that the boat in question had am unpainted (looks varnished) wooden deck
Si
Si
TAFFY3
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2010 - 10:34 AM UTC
Hello All, I was looking at the photos of this boat again,and the more I look, the more I like. One question keeps nagging at me though. How in the heck did they launch those torpedoes? They don't have tubes obviously, and it doesn't look like those bad boys would roll off there too easily. Can anyone shed some light on this puzzle? Al
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2010 - 10:50 AM UTC
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Eureka! I think I figured it out. I was looking at the photo Al Ross posted,when I noticed the mechanism between the torpedoes, located just aft of the pilot house. Going back to the photos of the model it is shown a little more clearly. I think this extended (or maybe was fired) outward, launching the fish. Can anyone confirm this hypothesis? Hello All, I was looking at the photos of this boat again,and the more I look, the more I like. One question keeps nagging at me though. How in the heck did they launch those torpedoes? They don't have tubes obviously, and it doesn't look like those bad boys would roll off there too easily. Can anyone shed some light on this puzzle?
Alalross2
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2010 - 12:25 PM UTC
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Nice Pic Al, do I assume correctly that the boat in question had am unpainted (looks varnished) wooden deck
Si
A varnished wood deck is unlikely on a combat craft; slippery and hard to maintain. The camo book I mentioned above calls for horizontal surfaces to be painted "grigio scuro" (dark gray). The color shown in the book is similar to but a little darker than the neutral gray version of USN Ocean Gray (5-O).
Al
alross2
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Posted: Monday, October 11, 2010 - 12:38 PM UTC
[quoteI noticed the mechanism between the torpedoes, located just aft of the pilot house. Going back to the photos of the model it is shown a little more clearly. I think this extended (or maybe was fired) outward, launching the fish. Can anyone confirm this hypothesis? Al[/quote]
These were side launchers driven by compressed air. A European colleague with whom I'm corresponding on a related project sent me these:
Al
Al[/quote]These were side launchers driven by compressed air. A European colleague with whom I'm corresponding on a related project sent me these:
Al
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 12:01 AM UTC
Thanks Al
You right, it would not be logical for a combat vessel, must weathered, but the more I look at ti, the more it looks like wood grain.
Gives me an idea for a bit fun project though, post war boat converted into a motor yacht.
Si
You right, it would not be logical for a combat vessel, must weathered, but the more I look at ti, the more it looks like wood grain.
Gives me an idea for a bit fun project though, post war boat converted into a motor yacht.
Si
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Quoted TextNice Pic Al, do I assume correctly that the boat in question had am unpainted (looks varnished) wooden deck
Si
A varnished wood deck is unlikely on a combat craft; slippery and hard to maintain. The camo book I mentioned above calls for horizontal surfaces to be painted "grigio scuro" (dark gray). The color shown in the book is similar to but a little darker than the neutral gray version of USN Ocean Gray (5-O).
Al
alross2
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Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 12:52 AM UTC
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Gives me an idea for a bit fun project though, post war boat converted into a motor yacht.
Curiously, T-3, a TAISTO class MTB restored and on display in Finland has a high gloss, natural wood deck. I'll upload a photo tonight when I get home.
Al
alross2
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Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 09:24 AM UTC
Here's the shot of T-3 with the clear finished natural wood deck. Notice that it also mounts the Italian torpedo launchers.
(photo by Olli-Pekka Haukiala)
Al Ross
(photo by Olli-Pekka Haukiala)
Al Ross
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Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 09:33 PM UTC
Thanks for that Al, very interesting pic. comparing it with b/w shot further back in the thread, it does make that look even more like unpainted wood, rather than weathering to my eye. logically that should not be right.
Could it be stained rather than painted with the wood grain showing through?
Silly question, but it is puzzling me.
Si
Could it be stained rather than painted with the wood grain showing through?
Silly question, but it is puzzling me.
Si
alross2
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Posted: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 12:44 AM UTC
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Could it be stained rather than painted with the wood grain showing through?
Let's just say I haven't seen any photos or written material that would confirm that there were natural wood decks on these boats...
Al
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Posted: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 09:38 PM UTC
Fair Shout Al
From my point of view wanting to build this baby when it comesout, and get it right, a weathered painted deck is a far less daunting task to replicate than a natural wood one.
Appreciate all yr help & pics
Si
From my point of view wanting to build this baby when it comesout, and get it right, a weathered painted deck is a far less daunting task to replicate than a natural wood one.
Appreciate all yr help & pics
Si
AlanL
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Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 07:55 AM UTC
Some images of the kit in a pdf file on their site:
http://www.italeri.com/NewsImgs/DOC_NEWS_000057.pdf
December is getting close!!
Al
http://www.italeri.com/NewsImgs/DOC_NEWS_000057.pdf
December is getting close!!
Al
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Posted: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 11:19 PM UTC
Spoke to the Italeri's importer at Telford, unfortunately they had no test shots, but still on course for hitting the shops this year, he reckoned before Chrsitmas, with the Vosper due late next year.
Si
Si
AlanL
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Posted: Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 04:39 AM UTC
Hi Simon,
Thanks. I asked Iteleri about a release date for the Vosper and they told me to ask my supplier which wasn't very helpful
Hannent's have the Vosper listed so I've emailed them to see if they know any more.
You're info sounds about right form what I can gather. I'm tempted by this one that's for sure and a pre Christmas release would be good timing.
Al
Thanks. I asked Iteleri about a release date for the Vosper and they told me to ask my supplier which wasn't very helpful
Hannent's have the Vosper listed so I've emailed them to see if they know any more.
You're info sounds about right form what I can gather. I'm tempted by this one that's for sure and a pre Christmas release would be good timing.
Al
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Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010 - 06:25 AM UTC
If they'd only do that kit in 1:72, I'll take one.
Garth
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