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Scapa Flow
Angeleyes
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Posted: Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 08:17 AM UTC
I will join even though i just finished a commissioned dio with the Scharnhorst and U-47 .Kinda Scappa flowish...
Anyway i have a 1/700 R.Oak at 50% sitting there for the last 3 years so that will be my entry.Doesnt have to be in Scappa flow though or does it?
vonHengest
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Posted: Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 05:59 PM UTC
Alright I've enlisted, but still not sure what I'm going to do. I checked out the HMS Royal Oak and the related materials that you suggested Julian, but I can't find a kit in any scale with the exception of wargaming pieces.

Any thoughts or alternatives?
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 06:57 PM UTC
Good morning Kostas,
Welcome aboard. I think the connection between the Royal Oak and Scapa Flow is very clear in this case so no worry there. The campaign doesn't start until January 1st 2012 so not rush at the moment either.
Regards,
Julian
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 07:05 PM UTC
Good morning Jeremy, the König, Markgraf and Grosse Kurfurst are all available in 1/350th scale. There are also some models of WW I German torpedo boats available, (I'll try and find a link for them). If you decide to go for salvage scene all you would need is a piece of a hull and a civilian tug. I am going to try my first nautical diorama portraying the König sinking. On the other hand it was a British naval base for a long period so you can be sure lots of RN destroyers etc. anchored there at one time or another. The campaign doesn't start until 2012 so maybe Zvezda will have released their Dreadnought by then.
Cheers,
Julian

http://www.steelnavy.com/MirageV106GA.htm this is what I mean

http://www.jbmodel.eu/index.php/cPath/60?osCsid=5b345e73c18392b842502b8c359e83c1 Jerzy Bin at JB models in Vienna also has some 1/700th scale models of WW I German destroyers.
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 07:35 PM UTC
At the moment the following fellow modellers are enlisted or enlisting for the Scapa Flow campaign:

Jim - GoldenPony
Bruce - GrayGhost666
Karl - Capt Songhouse
Kostas - Angeleyes
Jeremy - Von Hengest
Keith - Beefy 66
Daniel Chavez
Alec - Big Al07
Julian - Gremlin56

Still one campaigner short of the necessary 10 to avoid the campaign grinding to stop. There are still a couple of possibles out there in the forums
The campaign doesn't start until January 2012 so there is still plenty of time to finish up present campaigns and projects.
For those that have already enlisted, thank you very much.
Regards,
Julian
phantom_phanatic309
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 07:57 AM UTC

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I might be in on this build, if only for the family connection with Scapa Flow. My grandmothers brother was a cadet aboard HMS Royal Oak when it was torpedoed by U-47. Unfortunatley he wasn't one of the lucky few that survived. His photo is on the front cover of Dilip Sarkars book Hearts of Oak. Im not sure if the Royal Oak is available as a kit but there a lot of other possible subjects to look into before the start date.

Hello Stephen,
White Ensign has one in resin looks like the HMS Roval Oak at the right time.
I hope this will help.
Cheers,
Bruce


Thanks Bruce,
I'll have a look at that. I'm surprised Airfix never did it. I would have been right up their alley when they were churning out a lot of RN ship kits in the 60's and 70's. Failing that there is always Revells cutaway U-47. Not up to todays standards maybe but I've always thought it has lots of potential for further detailing.
grayghost666
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 08:49 AM UTC

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Alright I've enlisted, but still not sure what I'm going to do. I checked out the HMS Royal Oak and the related materials that you suggested Julian, but I can't find a kit in any scale with the exception of wargaming pieces.

Any thoughts or alternatives?

Hello Jermy,
White ensign has either a 1/350 or 1/700 scale of the Royal Oak. I ahve been looking at her to as a convert for another ship.
Bruce
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 03:41 PM UTC
Great thanks guys! I'm not sure that I'm ready to commit to a $100 kit just yet, especially if I'm going to be damaging and submerging it. I'll look into those options some more and see what works for me
grayghost666
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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2011 - 12:04 PM UTC
Hello Jeremy,
You could have her at anchor with 2 white streaks about 3 inches from her side. That might make a dio look like you know what is going to happen, But it is frozen at the last second.
Just a thought
Cheers,
Bruce
grayghost666
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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2011 - 12:13 PM UTC
Hello All,
We have ONLY 6 SIGNED UP for this campaign. I know we have talked about ships and dios but it will all be for NOTHING if we do not get the 10 we need to make this a real campaign.
Do I have to send Nurse Brunhilde to your homes to get you guys to sign up, And yes I know where you live I am a staff member know. Do not make me unleash her on you you guy, She knows how to give pain with a look, OK.
Bruce
vonHengest
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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2011 - 04:46 PM UTC

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Hello Jeremy,
You could have her at anchor with 2 white streaks about 3 inches from her side. That might make a dio look like you know what is going to happen, But it is frozen at the last second.
Just a thought
Cheers,
Bruce


I may indeed try something out like that. Lot's of options. These scales are a lot harder for me too work with than even 1/72 so I'll have to figure out what I can actually do. I have yet to try PE in 1/350 or smaller, and I've never tried rigging in any scale if I need to do that.
JimMrr
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 03:03 AM UTC
Hi guys,my comp packed it in recently, so I have been awol,,back now. I cant find a place to sign up for this campaign...
grayghost666
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 11:00 AM UTC
Hello Jim,
It is under campaign proposal: Scapa Flow about 3 treads down.
Cheers,
Bruce
JimMrr
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 12:53 AM UTC
OK signed up now Bruce!
bigal07
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 08:48 AM UTC
All sounds very good, a lot of history attached to Scapa Flow and not just WW1 and 2 - I'll have to have a scout round to see what sort of land bases were up and running at the time, shouldn't imagine anything to fantastic regarding a dockyard of size.
I am somewhat lost where WW1 shipping is concerned due to many being the dreaded resin, I'd love to jump in, and a lot of time to sort through varied bits and pieces at well.
Yup I'm in !
bigal07
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 10:00 AM UTC
http://youtu.be/MzuxekGZWQM
grayghost666
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 10:54 AM UTC
Hello All,
Remember to sign up. with you that makes 9 just 1 more to go.
Cheers,
Bruce
Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 07:03 PM UTC
Welcome aboard Jim, thanks for signing up !
Alec, that is a fantastic link to a very inspiring film clip. Especially that part of the hull and screws covered with seaweed being salvaged. That would be a great diorama, just trying to work out how to model that wet looking seaweed
Thanks Bruce, you were right and I was wrong
Julian

Bigrip74
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Posted: Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 07:18 PM UTC
Ok! Bruce just show me where to sign up and I am in.

Bob
Gremlin56
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Posted: Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 06:42 AM UTC
Welcome aboard Bob, the proposal is here:
http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/forums/176942&page=1
If everyone signs up at this slot I think we have a serious campaign starting on January 1st 2012
Julian
grayghost666
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Posted: Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 10:11 AM UTC
The Campaign Leader has asked for this thread to be locked. further discuccustion will take place on the Scapa Flow thread.

White ensign has the royal Oak, just so you know.
Removed by original poster on 06/26/11 - 21:12:10 (GMT).
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