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It’s one of the most anticipated kit releases of 2011, Zvezda’s 1/350 HMS Dreadnought.  We now have photos of the actual kit.  Click the link below to see the photos. 
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UPDATE-1/350 HMS DreadnoughtPosted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 01:44 AM UTC

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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 02:12 AM UTC
I have rather mixed feelings seeing the photos of Zvezda's Dreadnought.
For a much anticipated subject the model would seem extraordinarily bland to look at. The moldings would appear to be crisp but rather uninspired, ( and I am not sure what to make of what look like the KIng Kong size Vickers machine guns fitted on top of the waist turrets). It will take a lot of PE to change this into a head turner. At least someone on the design team extended the envelope by designing a sexy base to fit the finished model on. I am absolutely sure that Zvezda can do better than this,
Cheers,
Julian 
   
   
   
   
   
 
For a much anticipated subject the model would seem extraordinarily bland to look at. The moldings would appear to be crisp but rather uninspired, ( and I am not sure what to make of what look like the KIng Kong size Vickers machine guns fitted on top of the waist turrets). It will take a lot of PE to change this into a head turner. At least someone on the design team extended the envelope by designing a sexy base to fit the finished model on. I am absolutely sure that Zvezda can do better than this,
Cheers,
Julian
 
   
   
   
   
   
 Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 04:13 AM UTC
I see where you are coming from...
That said, I'd rather have a producer who gets the basics right rather than trying to be fancy, not getting the basics right, and needing tons of PE to fix it up anyway, and having a much higher price (see the infamous Hasegawa Excel-sheet which costs US $ 200).
That said, I'd rather have a producer who gets the basics right rather than trying to be fancy, not getting the basics right, and needing tons of PE to fix it up anyway, and having a much higher price (see the infamous Hasegawa Excel-sheet which costs US $ 200).
Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 05:33 AM UTC
Julian,
Those aren't machine guns. They are QF 12 pounder 18 cwt anti-torpedo boat guns.
  
 
Those aren't machine guns. They are QF 12 pounder 18 cwt anti-torpedo boat guns.
 
 Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 06:05 AM UTC
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Julian,
Those aren't machine guns. They are QF 12 pounder 18 cwt anti-torpedo boat guns.
It is almost as if those ant-torpedo-boat gun's use is rather limited due to their positioning. Especially since it is almost as if the main gunds would be of as much use (since they seem to block the anti-torpedo boat guns).

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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 06:44 AM UTC
Only if the mains are trained the same direction as the torpedo boats; but as they'd be in closer this is doubtful; they'd be too close for the mains to be effective.
Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 07:35 AM UTC
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Only if the mains are trained the same direction as the torpedo boats; but as they'd be in closer this is doubtful; they'd be too close for the mains to be effective.
Sure... it was meant a bit tongue-in-cheeck. It just seems that one could easily have come up with a better place to put these guns than on top of the turret.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 07:42 AM UTC
Thanks Kenny, hadn't seen that photo. Have to agree with Harm though, must have been a better location for the twin "buffalo guns"   
 
Julian 
 
 
 Julian
 
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 09:19 PM UTC
A bit harsh Guys.
Doesn't look bad to me, especially taking price into account, £25.00 on Hannant's website.
You ain't going to get something like the quality of the Hasagwa Mikasa, and slightly bigger for less than half the price.
Alright it will need some work, and some etch, and maybe some resin 12 pdrs would be nice.
Bottom line if the shape is good, & it fits ok, (Looks pretty good on both counts from the pics) for the price it is a fair amount of plastic, and that works for me.
I am up for at least one, and a look what it will take to convert into the next couple of follow on vessels.
Si
Doesn't look bad to me, especially taking price into account, £25.00 on Hannant's website.
You ain't going to get something like the quality of the Hasagwa Mikasa, and slightly bigger for less than half the price.
Alright it will need some work, and some etch, and maybe some resin 12 pdrs would be nice.
Bottom line if the shape is good, & it fits ok, (Looks pretty good on both counts from the pics) for the price it is a fair amount of plastic, and that works for me.
I am up for at least one, and a look what it will take to convert into the next couple of follow on vessels.
Si

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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 09:31 PM UTC
Hi Simon, that was more or less my point: what is provided by Zvezda is reasonably crisp but not World shocking . It is going to take a lot of work to make it more than mediocre   
 
The Devil will be in the details 
 
Julian
 
 The Devil will be in the details
 
 Julian

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Posted: Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 09:02 PM UTC
I am rather looking forward to this release. I actually think that the bland look will serve the dedicated modeller to improve to his liking without having to shave off heavy or inaccurate detail. As well, next to railing I think that most missing detail can be made from styrene, brass rod, paper, and streched sprue.
The most important is that basic features, shapes and measurements are correct. I'd rather have a baby-butt-smooth hull than a trench-warfare as commited on Nagato or made up blukhead detail that needs taking off anyway.
I reckon that at the usual price range of Zvesda the money value will be formidable.
Even 5 years ago such as release wouldn't have been possible. These are the golden years of model making!
Cheers,
Guido
The most important is that basic features, shapes and measurements are correct. I'd rather have a baby-butt-smooth hull than a trench-warfare as commited on Nagato or made up blukhead detail that needs taking off anyway.
I reckon that at the usual price range of Zvesda the money value will be formidable.
Even 5 years ago such as release wouldn't have been possible. These are the golden years of model making!
Cheers,
Guido
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Posted: Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 11:36 PM UTC
Hi Julian,
Sorry If I miss understood your comment slightly
The Devil sure will be in the detail, but that is where the real fun part of ths hobby is.
I am looking forward to seeing what Mr Hall comes up with for this baby, that will be interesting.
More power to Zvezda's elbow, I hope this is a big seller, on the evidence so far it sure should be. Hopefully it may lead to some more early 20th centuary ladies in plastic.
Si
Sorry If I miss understood your comment slightly
The Devil sure will be in the detail, but that is where the real fun part of ths hobby is.
I am looking forward to seeing what Mr Hall comes up with for this baby, that will be interesting.
More power to Zvezda's elbow, I hope this is a big seller, on the evidence so far it sure should be. Hopefully it may lead to some more early 20th centuary ladies in plastic.
Si

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Posted: Friday, July 22, 2011 - 12:13 AM UTC
No problem Simon, I will be buying this offering from Zvezda if only for the sake of having the "Mother of all Dreadnoughts" in the collection   
 
Cheers,
Julian 
 
 
 Cheers,
Julian
 
 
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 04:24 AM UTC
Anyone heard of aftermarket stuff for it? 

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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 07:42 AM UTC
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Anyone heard of aftermarket stuff for it?
Hello Magnus,
PE 35155 from White Ensign Models:
https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/c/British+Ships+Aircraft/190/1/
The more pre-orders we receive, the higher it moves up on Peter Hall's design priority list.

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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 11:23 AM UTC
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Quoted TextAnyone heard of aftermarket stuff for it?
Hello Magnus,
PE 35155 from White Ensign Models:
https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/c/British+Ships+Aircraft/190/1/
The more pre-orders we receive, the higher it moves up on Peter Hall's design priority list.
What will the price be?
Sea Master 12" barrels? Masts and yards would be nice as well. Maybe resin replacements for the 12-pounders?

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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2011 - 03:43 AM UTC
We won't know the price until Peter Hall finishes the design and we get a cost quote from the etching company.

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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2011 - 05:13 AM UTC
Freetime has a video of the parts for the kit.
Dreadnaught
  
 
My 2 cents on the kit. It is GREAT to have a plastic model of her. Sure it is not perfect, but we all know that WEM and Peter Hall will make a set to jazz her up.
I am looking forward to her very much.
 
Dreadnaught
 
 My 2 cents on the kit. It is GREAT to have a plastic model of her. Sure it is not perfect, but we all know that WEM and Peter Hall will make a set to jazz her up.
I am looking forward to her very much.
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2011 - 09:59 PM UTC
Me too.
I hope that nice Mr Hall includes the replacements for the clear bridge / wheelhouse bulkheads on fret, along with all the usual goodies.
Si
I hope that nice Mr Hall includes the replacements for the clear bridge / wheelhouse bulkheads on fret, along with all the usual goodies.
Si

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Posted: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 05:37 AM UTC
Hi Simon,
I passed your comment along to Peter. His reply: "Can't comment yet until I see the bits, but I will bear that one in mind." He's currently finishing off our 1/400 Bismarck/Tirpitz PE set, and will have the Dreadnought kit in his hands next week.
I passed your comment along to Peter. His reply: "Can't comment yet until I see the bits, but I will bear that one in mind." He's currently finishing off our 1/400 Bismarck/Tirpitz PE set, and will have the Dreadnought kit in his hands next week.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 09:38 PM UTC
Thanks John,
I can see why they Zvezda have moulded those components clear, but I reckon they would look so much better good etched.
Best be putting my money where my mouth is and get a pre-order in
Si
I can see why they Zvezda have moulded those components clear, but I reckon they would look so much better good etched.
Best be putting my money where my mouth is and get a pre-order in
Si
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Posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 12:52 AM UTC
just found this over on steelnavy.
the sprues look a lot better than the built up test shots
http://www.steelnavy.com/ZvezdaDreadnought.htm
Si
the sprues look a lot better than the built up test shots
http://www.steelnavy.com/ZvezdaDreadnought.htm
Si
Posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 02:49 AM UTC
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just found this over on steelnavy.
the sprues look a lot better than the built up test shots
http://www.steelnavy.com/ZvezdaDreadnought.htm
Si
Thanks for the link. The review sounds very promising.
Cheers,
Harm

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Posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 07:08 AM UTC
I'm still gonna get 3 of them.  
 
--Karl
 
 --Karl
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Posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 09:04 PM UTC
Am certainly looking at getting a second & converting her to Bellerphon, that shouldn't be too difficult, second tripod mast and revised secondary armament, plus a few other minor details. 
One of the minor details will be getting hold of 16 4" mk vii's in 1/350th, cos scratchbuilding them sure would be fun.
Si
One of the minor details will be getting hold of 16 4" mk vii's in 1/350th, cos scratchbuilding them sure would be fun.
Si
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