For those that have an interest in Carriers for the Atlantic group build of the WW-2 era. I have just completed a list of carriers that operated in the Atlantic during WW-2. There may be others , but these are the ones I found.
USS Wasp
USS Ranger
USS Yorktown
USS Hornet
Escort Carriers,
USS Bogue
USS Card
USS Block Island, and others.
Carriers operating in the Atlantic Are not talked about much, being overshadowed by the Pacific airwar. I was surprised to find that these ships operated in that theater.
The Hornet and Yorktown were moved to the Pacific after Pearl Harbor was attacked.
Wasp and Ranger Remained in the Atlantic to help the British with escorts.
HTH you group builders.
Garry
P.S. Anyone else have info on Carriers in the Atlantic, please add to the list, Thanks!
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US Carriers of the Atlantic in WW-2.
garrybeebe
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Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 05:41 PM UTC
Halfyank
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 01:03 AM UTC
Don't forget escort carrier USS Guadalcanal that captured U505, along with her destroyers.
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 02:20 AM UTC
:-) Now THAT'S the kind of Warship Group Build help I'm talkin' about!! :-)
Tread.
SonOfAVet
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 03:08 AM UTC
What is the difference in the amount of planes an Escort Carriers could carry opposed to a full sized carrier? I assume they are just smaller sized carriers no?
Sean
Sean
garrybeebe
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 03:54 AM UTC
Hello Sean,
There was a big difference in size and aircraft cap. For example, the Essex class carrier was 820 feet long and could carry 91 aircraft.
Where the Casablanca class escort was 512 feet long and could carry 28 aircraft.
A lot of the escort carriers were used to transport aircraft.
HTH,
Garry
There was a big difference in size and aircraft cap. For example, the Essex class carrier was 820 feet long and could carry 91 aircraft.
Where the Casablanca class escort was 512 feet long and could carry 28 aircraft.
A lot of the escort carriers were used to transport aircraft.
HTH,
Garry
Halfyank
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:02 AM UTC
The escort carriers were different in a number of ways. Number of aircraft carried is one. As an example the Saratoga carried about 80 aircraft, the Casablanca only 28. Escort carriers were much slower, say 19 knots compared to 31 knots plus. Many of them were converted from merchant hulls or light cruisers. The title "escort" really says it all. The original use for them was escorting convoys to free up the larger carriers. Here is the info on the Casablanca. http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/carriers/cve60.txt If you haven't ever gone to hazegray.org it's a great site for information on US warships.
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:07 AM UTC
I believe the Wasp was eventually sunk in the Pacific. I don't have my references, but I believe it was by a Japanese sub. The Ranger was "exiled" to the Atlantic because it was a "small" fleet carrier and could not carry the large number of planes that the other fleet carriers carried. She did play a big part in the North African landings by ferrying Army aircraft to be used ashore after the Ft. Lautey (SP?) airfield had been captured.
The Escort carriers were critical in closing the mid-Atlantic anti-sub gap. When they appeared in the Atlantic, operating in hunter-killer groups, the "Happy Days" were over for the U-boats.
The Escort carriers were critical in closing the mid-Atlantic anti-sub gap. When they appeared in the Atlantic, operating in hunter-killer groups, the "Happy Days" were over for the U-boats.
TreadHead
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:08 AM UTC
For those of you who might be considering the Hornet, I found an interesting photo of the flight deck damage after a Typhoon hit the ship. Amazingly enough, the Captain of the Hornet, in an effort to launch serach planes to aid in the recovery efforts, backed the Hornet into the wind and launched the aircraft off the stern!
Tread.
Tread.
TreadHead
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:26 AM UTC
Here's a pic of the Bogue.
HTH
Tread.
HTH
Tread.
TreadHead
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:30 AM UTC
And the Card.
Tread.
Tread.
Halfyank
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 06:26 AM UTC
Oh boy, somebody has let the genie out of the bottle. Now Tread is going to be a picture posting fool. 
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 01:59 PM UTC
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Oh boy, somebody has let the genie out of the bottle. Now Tread is going to be a picture posting fool.
You noticed that to huh Rodger? Our friend is definitly a go getter!
Thanks for posting the ref pic's Tread, Yo da Man bud.
Just no voo-doo canoo's or swan boats !
Cheers,
Garry
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:09 PM UTC
LOL....LoL...lol...... :-) O.K., I'll bite..."voo doo canoes, ...swan boats"? Last "Swan Boat" I was in, it was with this natural redhead back in H.S., called Penelope! The boat was built for two, and the water around the boat was kinda narrow, and we only went in one direction.......pretty sure you're not talking about one of those.
Tread.
Oh, BTW, if anyone wants to re-size my pics so we don't have to 'scroll'........that would be just dandy! I may be able to post 'em....but I'm still working on the 're-sizing' thing.
Hey....I'm not doing too bad. When I first started hanging around this place I don't think I could spell computer! :-)
Hey!! I dare you to find a 'Block Island'!
Tread.
Oh, BTW, if anyone wants to re-size my pics so we don't have to 'scroll'........that would be just dandy! I may be able to post 'em....but I'm still working on the 're-sizing' thing.
Hey....I'm not doing too bad. When I first started hanging around this place I don't think I could spell computer! :-)
Hey!! I dare you to find a 'Block Island'!
garrybeebe
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:27 PM UTC
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LOL....LoL...lol...... :-) O.K., I'll bite..."voo doo canoes, ...swan boats"? Last "Swan Boat" I was in, it was with this natural redhead back in H.S., called Penelope! The boat was built for two, and the water around the boat was kinda narrow, and we only went in one direction.......pretty sure you're not talking about one of those.
Tread.
Oh, BTW, if anyone wants to re-size my pics so we don't have to 'scroll'........that would be just dandy! I may be able to post 'em....but I'm still working on the 're-sizing' thing.
Hey....I'm not doing too bad. When I first started hanging around this place I don't think I could spell computer! :-)
Hey!! I dare you to find a 'Block Island'!
LOL! Yeppers tread thats the swan boats I was talking about! Kinda shows my age to.
About the Voo-Doo canoo, a friend of mine has that painted on the back of his drag boat.
Just thought I would throw that in, sounds kinda catchy!
Cheers,
Garry
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 04:34 AM UTC
Howdy Garry,
Would this qualify as a Carrier doing duty in the Atlantic?
Actually, I just thought it was a neat picture. Kinda gives you an idea of the sheer size of the bugger!
Tread.
Would this qualify as a Carrier doing duty in the Atlantic?
Actually, I just thought it was a neat picture. Kinda gives you an idea of the sheer size of the bugger!
Tread.
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 04:36 AM UTC
Dang!!......I did the 'thumbnail' again!....Jeeeeeeez.
here ya go.
That's much better....
Tread.
keenan
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 05:08 AM UTC
Tread,
Block Island...
LOL
Shaun
PS: I can't seem to be to post pictures from my Armorama Gallery. I have to post them over at the MSN site and then post them here in the forums. Any advice?
PPS: There were 2 USS Block Islands, the CVE 21 and CVE 106. The homepage is here:
http://www.ussblockisland.org/
You will have to cut and paste. Couldn't make it a hot link without deleting the whole post and starting over...
Cheers.
Thanks.
Block Island...
LOL
Shaun
PS: I can't seem to be to post pictures from my Armorama Gallery. I have to post them over at the MSN site and then post them here in the forums. Any advice?
PPS: There were 2 USS Block Islands, the CVE 21 and CVE 106. The homepage is here:
http://www.ussblockisland.org/
You will have to cut and paste. Couldn't make it a hot link without deleting the whole post and starting over...
Cheers.
Thanks.
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 05:42 AM UTC
There ya go keenan, I had to remove the last forward slash ( / ) to make the link work properly.
As to your posting problem. That's funny, I had the opposite problem. I would post to Armorama, and then try to post from the 'upload' stage. Fianlly figured out they were all in 'My Gallery'. Everything's worked since then!
http://www.ussblockisland.org
Tread.
As to your posting problem. That's funny, I had the opposite problem. I would post to Armorama, and then try to post from the 'upload' stage. Fianlly figured out they were all in 'My Gallery'. Everything's worked since then!
http://www.ussblockisland.org
Tread.
TreadHead
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 05:48 AM UTC
Ya know, either the BlockIsland or the Truman as pictured above would make for a fine build. Neither ship has all those pesky aircraft cluttering up the deck!
That's what takes all the time!
Tread.
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