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Hull Plating Question
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 03:42 AM UTC
Gentlemen,

Have a quick question. I know there are ways to layer paint in order to replicate hull plating but I want to take it a step further.

What material would be the easiest to work with but still represent realistic hull plating weld seams on a US WWII Aircraft Carrier?

I know alliance model works has a hull weld PE set but I would prefer to try something more readily available.

I am open to ideas.

thanks

Dave
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 04:10 AM UTC
Dave, What scale are you going to do this in?
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 04:34 AM UTC
Weld seams in 1/700??
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 06:35 AM UTC
1/350 scale
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 07:45 AM UTC
I really do not think you would be able to see a weld line in 1/350(IMHO).
I would try very thin stretched spur and thin Tamaya glue too soften the spur and make a chisel end out of some 20thou brass wire to create the weld line. HTH
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 08:43 AM UTC
I agree, scale hull plating and weld lines in 1/350 would be pretty hard to see. Paint can actually work pretty well; this is a 1/350 destroyer with plating/weld lines simulated with two layers of Tamiya (gray) fine lacquer spray surface primer.
 photo Decaturhullplatingfwdstbd_zpsc864e9db.jpg
Even with this close up view and extreme lighting, the effect is pretty subtle. The covering camouflage paint will mute the effect even further.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 11:37 AM UTC
Gents,

Thanks for the input. Some of the kits have molded plate lines but they are inconsistent across the breadth of the hull. Especially Aoshima IJN subjects.

I have seen some built models that the hull plates seams are more pronounced and well I want to increase the accuracy of my builds without becoming a rivet counter.

thanks

Dave
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 03:37 PM UTC
I would think in the smaller scale to go with what Tim mentioned. I have used primer ...and/or paint (depending on effect) to simulate weld lines....and I though it came out fantastic. Top paint coats tone down the effect nicely. 1/350 I would do wither paint or putty depending on what you're going for.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 10:49 PM UTC
Dave,

Archers Fine Transfers produce some decal/resin weld and rivet tranfers you may want to check out. I don't remember the scale but a fellow ship modeler did use them on a 1/144 ship.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 02:18 AM UTC
Gents,

Thanks again for the recommendations. I am having a hard time visualizing the subtle hull lines on 1/350 especially when I look at 1/700 and the panel lines are so distinct. Suck as Kostas' 1/700 Saratoga.

Are those panel lines overscaled?

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 03:41 AM UTC
They might be slightly over scaled. Looking at some of the older carriers, there is a mixed bag of plating showing. But yeah, in 700, you would figure they would be lighter. You would see some oil canning on the real stuff, not that I am suggesting doing that, but that would accentuate the lines on the real deal I think.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 03:47 AM UTC
Dave, Check your PM's
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 03:56 AM UTC
Gentlemen,

As always I greatly appreciate your insights and assistance. I am going to give the paint method a shot on the Yorktown. Heres to keeping my fingers crossed that I don't overdue it.

thanks again

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 04:21 AM UTC
Dave,
Here is a 1/700 plating photo of my SS Drumgeith kit by Jim B.



Jim's full how-to article is on my site here:

http://battlefleetmodels.com/id133.html
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 05:08 AM UTC
Hi Dave,
I tried the paint method of using dark colour/light colour lines together with mixed effect. Depending on the viewing distance it can look very effective I think. I tried with this build

On Achilles it works pretty well from a few feet away but if you look closely, it's a painted line. So depends on what you are after in terms of effect.

cheers

Michael
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