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North Star: MO-4 Soviet WWII Small Guard Ship
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 05:20 PM UTC


North Star Models releases a brand new 1/200 scale styrene kit, MO-4 Soviet WWII small guard ship.

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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2016 - 08:49 PM UTC
Nice one! Too bad that it is not my scale, would be interested in a 1:350 scale
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2016 - 09:37 PM UTC
I ordered one just because it's interesting and the kit contains all necessary PE, and inexpensive, and because it won't take much space on the shelf. In 1/350 it would probably be about 1 1/2 inches! Zvezda (another Russian company) make some war-gaming 1/350 patrol boats http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=ZVE6164
Even though they're intended for war-gaming, they have decent detail and have optional armaments. Just dress them up with some appropriate PE.
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2016 - 11:34 PM UTC
She is an interesting ship! Looking forward to hearing what you think about it once it comes Biggs! North Star has some really great item form what I personally have picked up.
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 04:32 AM UTC
Finally received my North Star MO-4 patrol boat. Took about 2 months. Wish I could say it was well worth the wait, but I'll let you decide:
The kit came in a small slightly flimsy box with a CAD illustration on the cover:








Instructions are large and un-cluttered.

Now for the parts:
They seem to be made (if not by North Star themselves) by some other Eastern European country. Forget about modern tech, and slide-molding. It resembles 60's or 70's standards:

Weapons and some small parts. For some reason, the manufacturer decided to join the main guns .

Some clean-up on the small parts:


Notice the sprue gates extend into and onto the parts themselves - extra clean up. And close-up of weapons. A bit soft detail and conjoined guns!

More parts. The ammo (?) boxes are not molded as a box, but divided diagonally! Why??
Deck detail. Not bad, but maybe a little soft:

The deck and hull. The hull is not water-lined:

The portholes look a little large...but not sure.

The only resin parts - big difference in quality.

And photo-etch:

And decals for several boats:
Hmmm...looks like Photo Bucket lost that image. Anyway, they are just white numbers for several boats.
And the obligatory base:


All in all, this could have been a better kit, if they had had a better styrene injection company. And the weapons should have been resin cast. North Star can do these much better in resin. Some (a lot of) clean-up required, and some TLC, could result in a nice model.

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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 06:37 AM UTC
Glad to hear you got this one Biggs! Thank you for the initial assessment and pictures! I think I would agree that in this day and age, not o mention the 3D and resins productions NS can do, that there looks to be a few downsides to this. But I do feel you are correct, in that it has potential to buildup into a fine looking display! I look forward to seeing what you can make of it!! Enjoy!
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 09:16 PM UTC
Already started it after taking pics. It's taking a lot of clean-up and trimming, and putty for seamless fits. The weapons (12.5 mm MG, and 45mm (??) gun are slightly off register and extremely fragile. I'm replacing the gun barrels on the heavier guns with lengths of stretched sprue. I can foresee many pieces being discarded for scratched parts.
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 06:28 AM UTC
I'm rooting for you my friend!
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 03:06 PM UTC
You have my support, as well as the support of the workers.
I love a good soviet ship but this North Star looks challenging (if not a bit frustrating).

Желаю удачи!!
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 08:33 PM UTC
I tossed out the horrible little lumps that were supposed to be depth charges, and replaced them with short pieces of Evergreen styrene rod, then glued on the PE end pieces. More tedious are items that look like oil/fuel drums. They are in 2 halves - the small pieces that have sprue gates extending over the mating surfaces. Couldn't just toss these as they do have some detail. So...cut, file, and sand, then carefully align the 2 halves. When they're good and dry, I'll do final clean-up (hope I don't lose any as they are quite small) and add the PE end cap.
Pity North Star didn't make this boat in 1/144 - the same scale as Revell/ICM U-Boat type II. The larger scale would probably also allow better detail and definition on the weapons and other small parts. These boats had some lively
duels in the Black Sea. That would make an interesting naval dio.
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 11:29 PM UTC
"divided diagonally":
By doing this you can get a 90 degree angle on the box. Doing the boxes as single piece would require "fiddling" with the angles since a box with 90 degree angles will not come out of the mold. If the "top" of the box is furthest away from the sprue gates then the sides going down from the "top" to the "bottom" of the box will not be parallell to each other, the box will have to be wider at the bottom, sort of like a truncated pyramid with very very steep sides but never vertical.
/ Robin
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2017 - 08:54 PM UTC
Funny...lots of other manufacturers manage box shapes without any taper, of course, maybe it's because they use this "new technique" called slide-moulding!
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Posted: Saturday, February 04, 2017 - 01:31 AM UTC

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Funny...lots of other manufacturers manage box shapes without any taper, of course, maybe it's because they use this "new technique" called slide-moulding!



Yup, you need to get the parts out of the molds in one way or another (flexible molds, parts with sufficient release angles or multi part molds).
Pick up any sprue from any manufacturer and take a real close look, with magnifiers or whatever is needed, and you will be able to determine which method they used.



/ Robin
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