I make my first dio with water and i use poliester cristal resin but how can i make the waves ?? Anytine i take a piece of wood to make a effect in water a few time later the resin it comes back to normal, it is normal ??
It passed four hours since i drop the resin.
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faraujo

Joined: November 23, 2005
KitMaker: 35 posts
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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 01:08 AM UTC
Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 01:28 AM UTC
Ahoy Filipe.
The pourable resin will self level. It does take time to build up to make waves. I've never used this method. I always use silicone caulk.
Kenny
The pourable resin will self level. It does take time to build up to make waves. I've never used this method. I always use silicone caulk.
Kenny
Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 03:35 AM UTC
Ahoy Filipe,
I have set a couple of u-boats recently in "water". I am very pleased with the effects
so here is my method and it is not a new one.
1. Draw the outline of the model on a piece of plywood.
2. Start to cover the plywood with plaster and work a 1/4" layer with a larger'
course paint brush and work in the direction of the waves.
3. With a smaller paint brush gently sculpt the wave details adding plaster to
build up the waves. Keep the paint brush wet will help smooth the quick drying
plaster.
4. Paint the plaster with the desired colors.
5. Set the model in place, touch up the plaster if required and repaint any
touch ups.
6. Paint on acrylics gloss medium either liquid or gel. Several layers will
add depth to the water.
Here is a photo of mine showing the effect:

Hope this helps,
Bom Dia,
Joe
I have set a couple of u-boats recently in "water". I am very pleased with the effects
so here is my method and it is not a new one.
1. Draw the outline of the model on a piece of plywood.
2. Start to cover the plywood with plaster and work a 1/4" layer with a larger'
course paint brush and work in the direction of the waves.
3. With a smaller paint brush gently sculpt the wave details adding plaster to
build up the waves. Keep the paint brush wet will help smooth the quick drying
plaster.
4. Paint the plaster with the desired colors.
5. Set the model in place, touch up the plaster if required and repaint any
touch ups.
6. Paint on acrylics gloss medium either liquid or gel. Several layers will
add depth to the water.
Here is a photo of mine showing the effect:

Hope this helps,
Bom Dia,
Joe
jba

Joined: November 04, 2005
KitMaker: 1,845 posts
Model Shipwrights: 502 posts

Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 03:44 PM UTC
Hi Filipe,
yes that's completely normal that polyester resin doesn't keep its shape as told Kenny.
There's however a trick to make some waves -the resin stays unset for quite some time depending on the amount of hardener and then sets very fast -it's during this one minute or so that you can shape it. You just have to be near the stuff and be very patient..
Joe now that's a nice diorama!
yes that's completely normal that polyester resin doesn't keep its shape as told Kenny.
There's however a trick to make some waves -the resin stays unset for quite some time depending on the amount of hardener and then sets very fast -it's during this one minute or so that you can shape it. You just have to be near the stuff and be very patient..
Joe now that's a nice diorama!
Posted: Monday, April 02, 2007 - 02:06 AM UTC
Ho Joe,
great looking sub and I love the activity in the water.
Cheers
Al
MartinJQuinn

Joined: January 19, 2005
KitMaker: 574 posts
Model Shipwrights: 530 posts

Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 07:23 PM UTC
Joe,
I really like your water - very sharp!!
I use acrylic gel medium for my water. After deciding where my ship will go (and outlining the hull), I spread the gel onto the base. I then gently lower the ship into the gel and clamp it down (I usually add my ship to the base before PE goes on). When the gel goes on, it looks like mayo - white and creamy. When it dries, it's hard and clear, and your ship is encased for eternity! After it dries, I paint it to "taste". Here are a couple of recently finished models in "water":
USS Cowell DD-547

USS Gearing DD-710

IJN Light Cruiser Oyodo
The top two ships (the USN destroyers) were put in their "seascapes" a few years ago, but I only recently got around to finishing the models. The Japanese cruiser in the bottom picture was put into water more recently. I've tried to take a "less is more" attitude with the gel. In my opinion, I had used too much gel on both DD's.
I really like your water - very sharp!!
I use acrylic gel medium for my water. After deciding where my ship will go (and outlining the hull), I spread the gel onto the base. I then gently lower the ship into the gel and clamp it down (I usually add my ship to the base before PE goes on). When the gel goes on, it looks like mayo - white and creamy. When it dries, it's hard and clear, and your ship is encased for eternity! After it dries, I paint it to "taste". Here are a couple of recently finished models in "water":
USS Cowell DD-547
USS Gearing DD-710
IJN Light Cruiser Oyodo
The top two ships (the USN destroyers) were put in their "seascapes" a few years ago, but I only recently got around to finishing the models. The Japanese cruiser in the bottom picture was put into water more recently. I've tried to take a "less is more" attitude with the gel. In my opinion, I had used too much gel on both DD's.
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