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Building the Bergepanzer 2 from Takom
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 07:17 AM UTC
I see a really super build here and an excellent and simple jig I can make to help me with my build. Your top notch in my books! Thanks
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Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 - 06:19 PM UTC

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let s wait for the Meng release



The current Bffel 3?
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Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 - 04:37 PM UTC
let s wait for the Meng release
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Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 - 08:25 AM UTC
This is the same thing I said in Pic. #73
Get the MENG Track, not the Krap Track that comes in this Kit.
Regards.
D0nald
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Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 - 05:36 AM UTC
Im going to use the Meng track on my BergeLeo. A lot of work with cleaning the parts, but a wonderful detailing of the track and a nice fit:

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Michael
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Posted: Sunday, September 01, 2019 - 12:00 AM UTC
That's a full towbar set I did a while ago, but the other week bI also did a set of shackles and the central pivot piece specifically designed to complete the bars in the Takom kit - these haven't yet been released.
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 11:38 PM UTC
Hi!

This one is just listed, but temporary out of stock.

http://leopardclub.ca/workshop/LW048/

Andreas
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 10:45 PM UTC
Sorry to hear the conclusions, but I suspect it may have been rushed to market to steal thunder from an impending Meng release - the two companies seem to follow the same play-book.

As for the incomplete towbar set-up, keep an eye on Leopardclub for an upgrade - I recently sent the CAD for 3D printing the masters...
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 11:48 AM UTC
Just a few thoughts about building this Kit, these are my thoughts and opinions only.

1. The molding and detailing is pretty good , they just left out a lot of small items that could have made this into a really great kit.
2.The instructions don't show exactly where a lot of the small parts go, (I'm not a mind reader)
3. String for the tow wires? come on who are you kidding?
4. You can't get the crane boom all the way down for the travel position, I had to cut the lift cylinders off from under the boom, you can't see them in this position any way.
5. There aren't any hook up parts provided for the tow bars, so if you want to tow another vehicle you'll have to out source them.
6. There's a lot more but I just can't think right now.

Would I buy this kit again ? NO NOT REALLY
Just wait a while, it's a shure bet that MENG will pop one out eventually , They already have the Leopard C2 MEXAS with Dozer out.


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Donald
Here's a Link t all the Pics.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArouE_A-TfGGgaZinWNaAO05tBwOsw?e=pH3RaI
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 11:42 AM UTC
Here's what the real spare Wheels on the rear deck look like.
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 11:36 AM UTC




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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 11:19 AM UTC
Well It's Finished finally.






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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 - 12:01 AM UTC

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Great job Donald!



I agree, added the kit to the list of kits I want.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 09:27 PM UTC
Great job Donald!
Following your build blog just ended in ordering the kit for myself ;-).

cheers
Walter
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 09:41 AM UTC
I painted the Tow Bars in the Red & White pattern on the color chart it's most likely not accurate but it looks cool.

If you mask off the area under the Crane it makes it a lot easier to glue it in place.




The Color paint chart isn't really accurate, the patterns from one view to the next don't always match.
Finished for now.
Donald
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 09:39 AM UTC

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Hi!
On German vehicles, the anti slip surfaces are a quite fine grainy patch that is laminated on the steel in the factory. it is not laminated by the crew like it is sometimes on vehicles for example on scandinavian vehicles where it a a kind of adhesive material that self-sticks on the metal surface. I have only seen it painted in the vehicle colours simply because the camouflage is factory applied after the patches are laminated on. The different (sometimes darker, sometimes more muddy)look is caused by the different reflection of light on that grain surface.

Andreas



Thanks for the Info. now we all know.
Regards.
Donald
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - 09:06 AM UTC
Hi!
On German vehicles, the anti slip surfaces are a quite fine grainy patch that is laminated on the steel in the factory. it is not laminated by the crew like it is sometimes on vehicles for example on scandinavian vehicles where it a a kind of adhesive material that self-sticks on the metal surface. I have only seen it painted in the vehicle colours simply because the camouflage is factory applied after the patches are laminated on. The different (sometimes darker, sometimes more muddy)look is caused by the different reflection of light on that grain surface.

Andreas
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - 07:56 AM UTC
JUST A THOUGHT
I wonder if the non-slip that they use is anything like the sheet material they sell at the home improvement stores here.
It is used to make the steps on wooden decks, just peal off the back and place.
This could be why some Pics. have it in Black and some is painted over.
If you'r repainting a vehicle you'r not going to mask off the Non-slip, just paint over it.
Just wondering.
Donald
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 09:19 PM UTC

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still missing the interior



No we are not. https://www.perfect-scale.de/de/www-perfect-scale-de-3/Inneneinrichtung-Bergepanzer-2-Standard.html?XTCsid=dt0tm5qpriqkk9bgsed3h1dua1
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 08:48 PM UTC

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still missing the interior



Yeah with 3 big side doors & 3 hatches up top, lots of viewing room.
Well maby we will get them when RFM or Meng release's their version . Hey maby a Bridge Layer will be along.
Donald

As for the non Slip I'm not repainting it (Finished)
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 05:08 PM UTC
still missing the interior
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 03:33 PM UTC
Looking at http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/bpz2/bpzii_22g.jpg Im inclined to agreed with Damian; yet the instructions would have you paint the patches different. Odd.
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 12:30 PM UTC
IMHO anti-slip areas on that photo look darker as they have rough surface compared with metal around. They just scatter more light but are painted in camo color.
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 11:16 AM UTC

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Hi!
Very interesting and helpful build. However, you painted the anti slip surfaces anthracite, at least it looks that way. These are always painted in the camouflage scheme. Sometimes they look a bit dusty in colour because they catch dirt and dust better than the steel surfaces, even after the dirt was being washed down from the vehicle.

Andreas



Actually the instructions call for them to be painted this way.
I used Tamiya FX67 Nato Green for the base color, FX68 Nato Brown for the Brown part and FX1 Flat Black for the Black part of the Camo. I used Tamiya FX69 Nato Black for the Anti Slip areas.

The Anti Slip areas on this vehicle aren't painted in the Camo.
Here's a Pic of the real one.

The one I'm modeling has the same numbers on the White bar on the Crane.
Donald