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Wanamaker
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 03:45 PM UTC
I was just wondering how do you guys deal with the amount of a eBay Fraud thatís out there how do you know what youíre purchasing even exists. Reason Iím asking is is out of the last four things I purchased of eBay only one has been a legitimate item that was actually delivered. My most recent attempt was to purchase Kitty hawks MH-60 knight hawk. I found a whole bunch for sale on eBay proximately 10 ads, I chose one reasonably priced had a 98% satisfaction rating. The day after I purchased it all the other ads disappeared and everything on his site disappeared for sale. Now when I checked the shipping information mysteriously the address is not even close to mine. I tried to contact him getting no answer in response. eBay has no place to complain other than wait for this ridiculously extended delivery date to pass before theyíll even think of investigating. I noticed today the new ad has appeared for the kit at a $20 reduction in the ad is exactly the same as his word for word picture for picture colour in the print, style and reviews Only thing thatís changed is the name of the seller. Maybe Iím just extra gullible I donít know. I do know that I am done ever purchasing anything on eBay.
MattEa
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 03:51 PM UTC
Sorry to hear you got scammed. I too think Iíve been scammed twice in the last couple weeks. Ordered off two different websites, both said shipping on 2-3 days, Iíve waited 14 days on both with no word from the retailer and they are not answering emails. Upon further investigation it seems both companies I ordered from happen to be run by the same outfit and they have dozens of negative reviews and complaints with the BBB of taking money but never delivering product. Leaves a sour taste in your mouth especially for someone just getting back into the hobby to have my first major purchase be a scam.
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 04:32 PM UTC
I had an issue back in December and January with a fraudulent seller but Paypal refunded my money. One thing I look at is how long they've been on eBay and their rating. Any lower than the high 90's with years of selling and I don't bother.
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ARMORAMA
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 10:17 PM UTC
Also while you have to wait to get your money back Ebay are very good at supporting the buyer in the belief that you used Paypal.
Lakota
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 10:50 PM UTC

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I had an issue back in December and January with a fraudulent seller but Paypal refunded my money. One thing I look at is how long they've been on eBay and their rating. Any lower than the high 90's with years of selling and I don't bother.


Same thing happened to me during the same time period. They even showed a shipping history and a pick up, but the addresses were in China. I've learned that they need to show a history of doing business and if the price is too good to be true then it's probably fraud. Sorry to hear about your experience. I've had nothing but good buying experience on eBay otherwise. BTW eBay refunded my money in February. Remember, $175 models don't sell for $25 as my experience taught me.
Take care,
Don "Lakota"
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 11:00 PM UTC
I've had some orders show up ridiculously late, but never go MIA altogether. The main issue I've had with eBay is thinking I'm buying a genuine article, only to find out it's a counterfeit. It doesn't happen too often since I try do a little more research before I hit the Purchase button, but it's also not limited to just modeling kits and supplies.

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ARMORAMA
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Posted: Friday, May 01, 2020 - 04:09 AM UTC

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Also while you have to wait to get your money back Ebay are very good at supporting the buyer in the belief that you used Paypal.



100% Agree, Paypal guarantee is really good. You can claim to them instead of eBay.
Wanamaker
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Posted: Friday, May 01, 2020 - 05:31 AM UTC
Youíre right eBay money back guarantee is great but I have to wait till July before the return my money because of the extended delivery date. I noticed the seller is now selling under multiple ads changing them every week and keeps lowering the price. Itís interesting how he can have 100% rating. I have reported them to the manufacture as the manufacture contacted me when I inquired to say that the product he is selling isnít even available from them yet.
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Posted: Friday, May 01, 2020 - 08:43 AM UTC
Some of the ones with a good feedback history actually create shill accounts where they pretend to purchase items and leave fake feedback. Ebay doesn't have a way to know if they actually shipped something to the shills or even if they paid themselves out of a second account to make it look like they are selling stuff. Those type are rare since the scheme is a bit complicated but they are out there. They usually don't have lots of sales though, which is something I avoid. As said above, if you don't have a lengthy history selling on ebay I won't buy from you.