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Weathering 3 colour camouflage
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 12:44 AM UTC
Hi all,



I recently sprayed my Mörser Karl in a 3 colour camouflage. Not bad for a very first attempt ever on spraying camo, I think.

Up until now, I always painted single colour vehicles. After laying don a base colour on these, I misted a layer of a lighter colour on them (eg Gray or Blue Grey over a Dark Grey base) to give a forced high lights effect. 

Now for the 3 tone camo, this is not possible (soft edges). Does any one of you have an idea how to accomplish the wished effect? 
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 12:48 AM UTC
Fading with oils is a good starting point.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 01:07 AM UTC
A dot filter is part of my standard pallette
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 02:50 AM UTC
As you have written, it is the very first attempt to paint multicolor camo. Whatever technique you choose now, do paint something similar subject using the same paints and method for practicing that technique and check the result twice. If you like it, can apply it to the Karl. If not, goto step 1.

Trust me, I missed this.

Tamas
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 03:25 AM UTC

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After laying don a base colour on these, I misted a layer of a lighter colour on them (eg Gray or Blue Grey over a Dark Grey base) to give a forced high lights effect. 

Now for the 3 tone camo, this is not possible (soft edges). Does any one of you have an idea how to accomplish the wished effect? 



Almost exactly the same way. Lighten each of your three colors separately. You can't just mist over the entire model but you can shade each of the three colors.

An alternative for next time, since it requires planning ahead, is to use lighter versions of your three colors. The post-shade each of the panels with a very thin dark color, such as very dark brown or grey, so as to create shadows. This can be done without regard to which base color you're shading. I suggest mixing a lot of Clear into your dark shade so that you can build up color slowly and carefully.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 07:11 PM UTC

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After laying don a base colour on these, I misted a layer of a lighter colour on them (eg Gray or Blue Grey over a Dark Grey base) to give a forced high lights effect. 

Now for the 3 tone camo, this is not possible (soft edges). Does any one of you have an idea how to accomplish the wished effect? 



Almost exactly the same way. Lighten each of your three colors separately. You can't just mist over the entire model but you can shade each of the three colors.

An alternative for next time, since it requires planning ahead, is to use lighter versions of your three colors. The post-shade each of the panels with a very thin dark color, such as very dark brown or grey, so as to create shadows. This can be done without regard to which base color you're shading. I suggest mixing a lot of Clear into your dark shade so that you can build up color slowly and carefully.



A pin wash of dark brown oils is what I will do after the highlighting of upper surfaces...

Thus far I am thinkning of applying a very thin filter of white oil paint over the upper surfaces...
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 07:18 PM UTC

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As you have written, it is the very first attempt to paint multicolor camo. Whatever technique you choose now, do paint something similar subject using the same paints and method for practicing that technique and check the result twice. If you like it, can apply it to the Karl. If not, goto step 1.

Trust me, I missed this.

Tamas



I'll certainly do some testing... Thanks for the advice
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 09:42 PM UTC
Abteilung 502 do a three tone camouflage weathering oil.

Its really, really good.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 10:00 PM UTC

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Abteilung 502 do a three tone camouflage weathering oil.

Its really, really good.



Is that this set?
https://abteilung502.com/product/mapping-technique-lights-and-shadows/
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 10:58 PM UTC

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Abteilung 502 do a three tone camouflage weathering oil.

Its really, really good.



Is that this set?
https://abteilung502.com/product/mapping-technique-lights-and-shadows/



No mate, you need only one to tone down 3 colour schemes. Its Abt155. Light Sand.

Used to be German Three- Tone Fading, but looks to have been re-branded.
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 12:37 AM UTC
Thanks... I'll check it out!!!
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 01:39 AM UTC
Yeah, basically, you thin the oil down with thinners and then brush it over all three colours. It smears at first and shows obvious signs of brush strokes, but after a short while of brushing, it does the job.

It takes a while to dry though. Used with other weathering tools like pigments and the like, it works really well.
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 02:06 AM UTC
Right... Thanks for the info... I now know what to expect...

I hope my LHS can order them separate, as I see only sets on his website...
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 05:38 PM UTC
You can definitely buy them individually here in the UK. The thing with a set is, you use so little of each one on a project that a set would last for years. Maybe that's not a bad thing.
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 07:57 PM UTC
Ordering from the UK would probably cost more P&P than the product itself ... That is why I prefer the LHS...

I have ancient oilpaint tubes, which I've been using for years, so I know what you mean...
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2020 - 12:09 AM UTC
I actually tried out AK Interactive's DAK Wash for mine - first time using it on 3-tone German...

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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2020 - 12:20 AM UTC
That looks really great!!!