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Trumpeter 1/350 HMS Dreadnought 1907
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 10:24 AM UTC

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Hi Bill,

This is looking great!! Looking forward to following this thread!

Mike



Thanks Mike! Glad to have you onboard.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 10:40 AM UTC
They say the devil's in the details...well today the devil tasked me with working on the searchlights. Since a few of these go on the super deck and the boat deck, I decided it was as good a time as any to tackle them all and get them ready for painting along with the other details. The kit supplies you with 14 but only 13 are needed. I went ahead and prepped all 14 just to have a spare since the Eduard PE set includes 14 bezels as well.

First up was drilling out the faces of the lights. This was done with a pin vise by hand while the lights were still on the sprues. This made it much easier to handle them and control the drill bit vs. trying to do it with them off the sprues.



Once that was taken care of, they were removed from the sprues and cleaned up where needed. The Eduard bezel faces were added using liquid glue and a spit-moistened toothpick to help in the pick-up-and-placement of each little bezel.



Once painted, these will get further detailed for the reflective surfaces and what not.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 10:44 AM UTC

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First up was drilling out the faces of the lights. This was done with a pin vise by hand while the lights were still on the sprues. This made it much easier to handle them and control the drill bit vs. trying to do it with them off the sprues.



Nice tip Bill, I'll have to remember that one.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 10:54 AM UTC
My pleasure Luciano! These things are so tiny and I have fat fingers...not a good combination.
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 05:10 AM UTC
Coming along very well, looking grand!

Kev
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 05:26 AM UTC
Thanks Kev! This is where the fun begins and the real heart of the kit's 630+ pieces comes into play. Details, details, details!
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014 - 09:23 AM UTC
Lots of progress to report today. First up were the baffles and screens for the funnels. Trumpeter provides these as multiple PE parts (5 different parts for each funnel) and they are all extremely fine/fragile. The internal baffles are probably the most fragile as they require a lot of bends but the part itself isn't that sturdy to begin with. One thing that Trumpeter does that I like is they provide their PE with a laminated adhesive sheet...if you only peel off the top sheet, the bottom sheet remains stuck to the back and you can use that to your advantage for parts like this. By only freeing one leg at a time and bending it up into place, it was possible to get all the legs into position where needed...then one last cut to free the baffle from the fret.



Then the real fun begins...I opted to glue the baffles into place first inside the funnel cap using liquid glue, then added the outside ring, and finally the top portion of the screen. The funnel tops are only dry fit for now to make it easier to paint them separately from the funnel stacks as masking due to all the PE is clearly not an option.



After studying the rigging diagrams, I decided to add some rings for the signal flag lines that will be rigged later on. I used the fine copper chain that came with the Hunter deck and clipped out 12 links, cut them in half with fine wire cutters, and glued them in place with CA.



Then it was finally time for some more paint to fly...I primed everything with Flat Black since I needed to spray some anyway for the funnel tops. The turret tops were sprayed with Panzer Gray and everything else got the same custom gray mix that was applied to the hull. In order to paint the 12 pdrs, I stuck them in small blobs of blue tack putty and then stuck the putty to the masking tape so I could paint them more easily since they have mount pins on their bases.



That will get a chance to cure up and this weekend will see more detail work in terms of getting the gear installed on the first super deck level so I can secure the boat deck and continue to work my way up in the superstructure.
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014 - 10:05 AM UTC
Some real nice work here Bill
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014 - 10:13 AM UTC
Really moving along,I really like the wooden decks,got to grab one for my Graf Spee
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014 - 12:10 PM UTC
Russel, thank you kindly!

Anthony, should be able to get a good bit of stuff installed finally now that I've gotten enough built up and painted. Thanks for following along.
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 09:43 AM UTC
Building on the paint progress from yesterday, today's efforts were all in the detail department. Turrets received their 12 pdrs along with the Eduard platforms and guard rails. The 12 pdr mounts as-is were all pointing downward, so some gentle pressure on the breech portion of the gun 'elevated' them so they would sit at a level height once installed into the platforms. Took a little trial-and-error but eventually I got all 10 sitting at pretty close to the same height. The 12 pdrs got a little extra detailing in the form of some Model Master Non-Buffing Metalizer Brass applied to their breeches.



The funnels got their caps permanently installed and the signal flag deck area and aft searchlight platform were painted with Panzer Gray to detail the crew walk areas. Same thing for the aft conning tower's fire direction platform. I'll wait to install some railings for it until I'm ready to finally install it in place to avoid any possible damage or complications.



Front portion of the boat deck received its wood decking as well as a permanent install. This is much easier to handle with the deck 'loose' vs. fixed and today was as good a time as any to check that off the list.



The boat deck levels are still dry fit only at this point as I need to work on the super deck level details next. Doesn't hurt to do a quick check though to make sure everything's still playing nice with each other.



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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 12:47 PM UTC
The funnel caps look great. Some of those things are really difficult to get right. I tried folding a 1/700 PE SK radar assy for my Essex and made a teeny pile of scrap out of it. Wound up just using the front screen with no back braces.

Great work.

EJ
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 09:20 PM UTC
Great Job Bill,

Main Turrets look excellent, like your solution for the flag halyards on the signal deck.

Si
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 11:05 PM UTC
Nice clean work, Bill! The wood deck looks magnificient. Makes me want to start a big scale BB.

Cheers!
Stefan
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 03:41 AM UTC
Eugene, thanks for the comments and support! I hear you on the delicate nature of PE stuff in this scale. Trumpeter doesn't help much in that department, their PE tends to be extremely fragile...I suppose that's the trade off when it comes to 'in-scale' vs. sturdiness!

Si, hopefully that will allow me to run the double lines for the mast arms without having to actually do two separate runs per connection. That's the theory at any rate, hopefully it works out in practice! Thanks for the comments as well.

Stefan, these big ships can be awfully inviting. The only challenge of course is work space. At 18 inches in length, the hull on Dreadnought isn't so hard to work with but I have all of the other stuff spread out over two different desks so I have enough room to maneuver. I'm very impressed with the wood decking supplied by Wood Hunter as well, amazing to see what advances have been produced in the hobby for sure. Definitely worth the added money for the effect it produces IMHO.
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 12:33 PM UTC
I started in on the super deck's interior details today and immediately encountered an issue when it came to installing the 12 pdrs. The added fractional millimeter of the wood deck is a partial contributing factor but the bulk of the issue had to do with the bases of the guns and how they needed to mount into the various slots in the super deck structure. The mount pins work great for open spaces like the turret tops or the open decks...but when they have to fit into the tight spaces like most of the superdeck's openings, it was virtually impossible to get them into position.

I ended up removing all of the mount pins and sanding the bottoms of the bases smooth and using CA gel to mount the guns into position over the mount holes instead. It's also worth noting that while the guns themselves are installed in Step 16, the exterior port covers that also need to line up with the gun barrels aren't dealt with until Step 26 and they have to fit just so together to look right. So much flipping back and forth in the instructions was called for as I worked on getting the guns installed as a result and it's a slow and tedious process as the panels have only a very tiny contact surface for gluing. I suppose you could also opt to pose the covers in the down position and have less hassle that way but it definitely doesn't look the same.

I also hunted through the instructions and added all the little exterior parts like the hose reels, ladders, and the walkways for the wing turrets. I also discovered that the rectangular hatch covers D29 are meant to sit right up against the aft funnel's base, so they have to sit just right for there not to be any interference. I glued those in place first and then left the funnel sitting in position until the glue had set to make sure there wouldn't be any issues later on in that area.





Next up will be getting the boat deck components in place and continuing the upward climb on the superstructure components. I should also note that the Wood Hunter provided coal scuttle PE inserts are a perfect fit for the openings in the deck vs. the Trumpeter items which are too small, I tried out a couple that were needed for the super deck and they fit like a glove.
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 01:08 PM UTC
Building on yesterday's efforts, I permanently installed the boat deck levels in place over the super deck. Funnels were also permanently installed after I used a #80 finger drill to create mount points for the bracing wires. Wires were added using the Fine grade of black EZ Line and CA. The final pair of bracing wires for the fore funnel will be added once the mast tripod is in place since they connect to the legs vs. down to the deck itself.





There's still more detail work for the boat deck level including the aft searchlights and railings, the pair of 12 pdrs on either side of the conning tower, and the admiral's walk left to do before I can move on up to the bridge deck.
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 07:37 PM UTC
Gee Bill I have this ship in my stash and was seriously considering starting it. After following your build to date I think I might hold off for a while and let you sort out some of the issues for me!
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 02:16 AM UTC

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Gee Bill I have this ship in my stash and was seriously considering starting it. After following your build to date I think I might hold off for a while and let you sort out some of the issues for me!



Thanks Andrew! Happy to find all the little kinks and pitfalls in advance if that helps someone else enjoy their build a little more. Glad to have you following along!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 10:01 AM UTC
Made some more progress on the boat deck level. The next element that needed attention was the admiral's walk. I immediately encountered an issue with its fit in relation to the admiral's day cabin and the little box on the other side of it. I'm not sure if this was a combination of using the Eduard replacement for the cabin, a fit issue with the kit part, or some combination/variation of the two. Regardless, I needed to modify the walk by cutting a notch into it so it could clear the box, part B6, which the instructions have you install in Step 22 prior to the walk going in. I also added the side sponsons (B8/B11) to the walk instead of installing them directly to the superstructure sides as I wanted to sure they would fit flush with the walk and not cause issues. Last but not least, I also added the supports, F23, that the instructions would have you install independently in Step 26. That's not a good idea as they have to attach at an angle and getting that right is pretty difficult without using the walk itself to ensure they sit correctly.



While the walk supports were setting up, I added the PE access ladders from the super deck up to the boat deck and worked on the aft searchlight platform as well. I found an error in the Eduard railing PE instructions, the correct railing for this area is #12, not #4. #4 gets used on the small searchlight platform on the main mast and is too small to go in this area, so a small note for anyone looking to use that set! I used the small section of railing that I clipped off from the fire direction control platform earlier as the back railing section for this platform, installed the front railing, then added the pair of searchlights to complete the aft portion.



Then the real fun began in terms of the railings for the admiral's walk because of all the complex curves involved with it. I opted for the Eduard rails instead of the Trumpeter railings as the Eduard railings have the correct lower height vs. the Trumpeter railings which are all the same standard height type and the Eduard rails have the added bonus, at least for the inner rail, of having etched bend lines to aid with the shaping of some of the key areas around the searchlights. I added the inner railing first, then added the 4 search lights, then the outer rail came last. The forward pair of 12 pdrs rounded things out as well.





Next up will be working on the bridge components so I can get them integrated in fully in with the rest of the superstructure.
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 03:21 AM UTC
Assembling the two-level components of the bridge deck is a delicate operation that requires a lot of patience, mostly due to the fact of the way its supported relative to the boat deck. I decided the best way to tackle it was to install all the support legs first on the underside of the platform and use the conning tower and the openings in the wood deck to ensure everything aligned properly and then let it sit overnight so the glue could set thoroughly before moving ahead. Before doing that, I also made some minor adjustments so I could use the Eduard bridge house components instead of the kit-supplied parts. The notches in the platform were filled with putty and a combination of the little tabs cut free from the kit part where needed and then the brass house installed with CA gel. After all the legs had set up, I cut the cross braces from the Eduard support legs (which are too 'spindly' IMHO to be used by themselves) and attached those to the styrene legs to add a little more detail.



Out came the airbrush for some quick paint work and then the real work of assembling the two levels together began. The first level received its wood decking and then the Eduard external bridge face and railing were installed. The searchlights and compass stand were added to complete the first level.



Moving up to the 2nd level, it too received its decking and was glued in position over the bridge house. Compass stand and other details were installed prior to the railing to make life a little easier there. The chart table is extremely delicate as Trumpeter provides it as a PE part and the legs aren't very sturdy, so great care is needed there. The railing for this area has to take on a lot of complex bends/shapes, most of which the Eduard rail has pre-etched to help with, but it's still a delicate dance. I bent it into shape first, brush painted it by hand, then installed it in place. Last little piece of the puzzle was the Eduard-supplied access ladder to the upper deck.



Time for the moment of truth, the whole module was installed in place, integrating with the conning tower and boat deck below.




Rounding things out, the Eduard tall access ladder was added to the rear of the bridge structure.



Next up will start work on the masts.
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 06:07 AM UTC
Great work Bill, your making this look so easy
Loving the detail, as always taking notes.
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 06:35 AM UTC
Thanks Luciano! So far so good!
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 10:23 PM UTC
Well Bill, if jealousy is a curse, i'm cursed!!!!!
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Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 02:17 AM UTC

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Well Bill, if jealousy is a curse, i'm cursed!!!!!



Thanks Andrew! Just so long as you don't turn into a newt we'll be fine.