Ahoy mates!
Want an alternative to Cy glue? Take a closer look at Kenny Loup's Gator Glue-"The Glue With Bite" !
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~Gunny
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Gator Glue-"The Glue With Bite"Gunny
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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2007 - 11:32 AM UTC
Posted: Friday, July 27, 2007 - 02:48 PM UTC
Thanks Gunny!
I used the glue to attach the scratch built prop blades on the hub of the CSS David. I brought the kit to work to show some of the guys there, on the way home, one of the blades got caught on my umbrella. All the blade did was flex and pop back in place. Had it been attached with CA, it would have popped off.
~Gator
I used the glue to attach the scratch built prop blades on the hub of the CSS David. I brought the kit to work to show some of the guys there, on the way home, one of the blades got caught on my umbrella. All the blade did was flex and pop back in place. Had it been attached with CA, it would have popped off.
~Gator
Posted: Friday, July 27, 2007 - 06:23 PM UTC
Thanks for sharing Gunny.
I don't know about the glue but I could sure use one of those gators to hold the pe for me while I'm glueing
Gator can the glue be shipped across the pond?
Ciao
Luciano
I don't know about the glue but I could sure use one of those gators to hold the pe for me while I'm glueing
Gator can the glue be shipped across the pond?
Ciao
Luciano
Gunny
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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2007 - 11:31 PM UTC
The stuff works, and works well, guys...it truly is an adhesive, which has true bonding properties, with a great amount of strength and flexilbility...most glues have either one or the other, rarely both...Cyanoacrylate glue has a low shearing strength, thus, as Gator said above, his prop would most assured have popped off if he used Cy...trust me, I'm not knocking good ol super-glue, but now there's an alternative, which just may be better, for us modelers...
Gunny
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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2007 - 11:34 PM UTC
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Thanks for sharing Gunny.
I don't know about the glue but I could sure use one of those gators to hold the pe for me while I'm glueing
Gator can the glue be shipped across the pond?
Ciao
Luciano
No problem, Luciano, my pleasure, actually!
I love new stuff, and being able to try this product out was a real treat...I do believe that this can be shipped anywhere, as it is a non-volatile product...Gonna have to wait for the gator to wake up and give you the final answer, though...
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 02:01 AM UTC
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I do believe that this can be shipped anywhere, as it is a non-volatile product...Gonna have to wait for the gator to wake up and give you the final answer, though...
I'm awake. Luciano, it can be mailed to the UK with no problems.
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 09:14 AM UTC
Thanks Gunny / Gator.
Gator an order will be winging its way to you in the next couple of days.
Ciao
Luciano
Gator an order will be winging its way to you in the next couple of days.
Ciao
Luciano
wildspear
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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 10:29 AM UTC
Gunny,
Your reveiw sold me on this and I'll have an order out in the very near future.
Your reveiw sold me on this and I'll have an order out in the very near future.
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 10:45 AM UTC
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Thanks Gunny / Gator.
Gator an order will be winging its way to you in the next couple of days.
Ciao
Luciano
Hang fire mate! There may be a good chance of already having/getting this stuff in the UK.
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 12:11 PM UTC
There's no Gator Glue in the UK, yet.
I'm sure I'll be getting an order or two soon.
I'm sure I'll be getting an order or two soon.
blaster76
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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 12:52 PM UTC
Kenny sent me a sample to give to Keith who rns the Hobby Annex store here in Dallas. I had 3 days to play around with it before I brought it in to Keith. It works with plastic on plastic, though I wasn't too happy with the drying time or the tackiness. I then went metal to metal...and that got a BIG WOW! from me. Lastly I stuck the metal PE I had glued onto plastic and once again, the big WOW!! Brought it into Keith he also said wow, then we ran a water test to see if it disolve like Elmer's... Of course it didn't, so he now wants to stock it. Better get ahold of it soon because as word gets out this stuff it may become hard to come by. At least I hope this happens. Kenny sent a PM with Keith Contact info. Man I sure hated to give up that sample, but a deal is a deal.
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 03:16 PM UTC
I've got one question about the glue. How does it do with painted metal or plastic? One issue I've had ever since I was a kid was not being able to get paint off of areas to be glued, and having items fall off because of it. Any data on this?
Gunny
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 09:10 PM UTC
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I've got one question about the glue. How does it do with painted metal or plastic? One issue I've had ever since I was a kid was not being able to get paint off of areas to be glued, and having items fall off because of it. Any data on this?
Good question, Rodger...Personally, didn't try this test, but, I will tonight...I always paint my PE after I glue (although many paint before, or at least prime) so this is a very valid query...thanks mate!
~Gunny
jimlolok
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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 11:12 PM UTC
Looking foreward to trying it.Put my order in on friday straight away.This looks like it could be a life-saver.Well at least hair- tearing saver.Need to save the little i have left
Don't think we will ever see it in the model shops here in Poland.In many ways the backwoods as regards modelling items.
Don't think we will ever see it in the model shops here in Poland.In many ways the backwoods as regards modelling items.
Posted: Monday, July 30, 2007 - 12:43 AM UTC
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I've got one question about the glue. How does it do with painted metal or plastic? One issue I've had ever since I was a kid was not being able to get paint off of areas to be glued, and having items fall off because of it. Any data on this?
Rodger, it should hold up fine on painted surfaces. That's the nature of the polymer. Mark's test should confirm this.
Posted: Monday, July 30, 2007 - 12:45 AM UTC
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Looking foreward to trying it.Put my order in on friday straight away.This looks like it could be a life-saver.Well at least hair- tearing saver.Need to save the little i have left
Don't think we will ever see it in the model shops here in Poland.In many ways the backwoods as regards modelling items.
Hey Jim. Got your order and it will go out tomorrow. I got four going out today. I need to go ahead and make a resupply order today!
wildspear
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 12:20 AM UTC
Gator,
I went a did it yesterday.....put my order in for a bottle of the gator glue.
I went a did it yesterday.....put my order in for a bottle of the gator glue.
wildspear
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:30 PM UTC
got my order today and tried it out. Very satisfied and it works great!!
jimlolok
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 11:18 PM UTC
Hi gator,
Been using it for my USS KIDD commission build for the US Embassy here in warsaw and must say,very pleased indeed.
It gives you more wiggle room and just enough time to get right but not enough for the wrist ache to set in
Found that the those micro brushes are ideal for application and better still you can still wash it out after half an hour or so.
Good product in short and very happy with it.
jim
Been using it for my USS KIDD commission build for the US Embassy here in warsaw and must say,very pleased indeed.
It gives you more wiggle room and just enough time to get right but not enough for the wrist ache to set in
Found that the those micro brushes are ideal for application and better still you can still wash it out after half an hour or so.
Good product in short and very happy with it.
jim
Posted: Friday, August 31, 2007 - 01:24 AM UTC
I'm very happy you like it Jim.
~Gator
~Gator
blaster76
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Posted: Friday, August 31, 2007 - 07:10 AM UTC
Here is a tip guys, here in Dallas we have discovered it doesn't like ammonia. So if you want to remove the glue because of some mistake you have made and the glue has set, put a bit of ammonia on it and you can remove the old glue and do whatever it was that you wanted. A super-super product. It makes the nightmare of adding those itty bitty gun shields to all those 20mm guns so much easier. It has tack and dries slow enough that I can dip in my tool and get about 6 of the shields on the guns at a time done.
Posted: Friday, August 31, 2007 - 01:34 PM UTC
That's awesome Steve. Great tip about the ammonia.
~Gator
~Gator
Gunny
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Posted: Friday, August 31, 2007 - 01:37 PM UTC
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That's awesome Steve. Great tip about the ammonia.
~Gator
Quite interesting, indeed!
"Solutions of ammonium can also dissolve reactive metals such as aluminum and zinc, with the liberation of hydrogen gas."
(Wiki)
TreadHead
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Posted: Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 04:04 PM UTC
Howdy Kenny,
I've already ordered my bottle of the stuff today {my order may be one of the four you're sending out } via PayPal......best of luck with new glue there pard', hope you sell gallons of the stuff!
After all the great reviews, I can't wait to try your new 'blend'
Tread.
I've already ordered my bottle of the stuff today {my order may be one of the four you're sending out } via PayPal......best of luck with new glue there pard', hope you sell gallons of the stuff!
After all the great reviews, I can't wait to try your new 'blend'
Tread.
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Posted: Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 04:56 AM UTC
Thanks for the review Gunny, I'm going to get some, sounds great.