Howdy,
New to ships and I need to know how close is 1/600 and 1/700 are to each other? Any info would be great. Thanks, Ryan
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new to ships, how close is 1/600 and 1/700 sc
53Buick
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 09:37 AM UTC
Clanky44
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 10:37 AM UTC
Hi Ryan
It's a measure of scale, the difference is more noticeable as the size of the modelled ship increases, for example.
IJN Yamato's length is 862ft which equates to 17.24inches in 600th scale and 14.78inches in 700th. A difference of 2.46 inches, quite a bit.
IJN Akizuki destroyer's length is 440ft which equates to 8.8inches in 600th scale and 7.54 inches in 700th scale. A difference of 1.26 inches.
A Coastal Motor boat is 55ft which equates to 1.1 inches in 600th scale and 0.94 inches in 700th scale. A difference of 0.16 inches.
So scale differences are more noticeable as the subject matter being scaled down gets larger.
hope this helps,
Frank
It's a measure of scale, the difference is more noticeable as the size of the modelled ship increases, for example.
IJN Yamato's length is 862ft which equates to 17.24inches in 600th scale and 14.78inches in 700th. A difference of 2.46 inches, quite a bit.
IJN Akizuki destroyer's length is 440ft which equates to 8.8inches in 600th scale and 7.54 inches in 700th scale. A difference of 1.26 inches.
A Coastal Motor boat is 55ft which equates to 1.1 inches in 600th scale and 0.94 inches in 700th scale. A difference of 0.16 inches.
So scale differences are more noticeable as the subject matter being scaled down gets larger.
hope this helps,
Frank
blaster76
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 05:02 AM UTC
Hi Ryan
As you can see, the scales are noticably different. As to what you plan to build. Kit availability is the key issue. Luckily most kits available in 600 are also available in 700 which by far is the most popular scale. 350 scale is gaining in popuarity due to several really nice and a variety of ships being released in plastic rather than just resin in recent years. Personally, I like the 350 scale. Years ago I built 700 and since then they have added tons more types and variety of ships. Back when I did it, it was pretty much Japanese navy and famous capital ships like Missouri, Bismark and Hood.
If you plan to build a collection up, go with 700. If you are just looking to build a particular ship, check around see what scale you might like. You might want to ask here for opinions on the best kit for the money and other things. We have a couple of world class builders that haunt these pages and then there are the rest of us good old boys who can build a pretty mean ship as well. Just ask and you shall receive more advice and recommendations tha you can believe.
As you can see, the scales are noticably different. As to what you plan to build. Kit availability is the key issue. Luckily most kits available in 600 are also available in 700 which by far is the most popular scale. 350 scale is gaining in popuarity due to several really nice and a variety of ships being released in plastic rather than just resin in recent years. Personally, I like the 350 scale. Years ago I built 700 and since then they have added tons more types and variety of ships. Back when I did it, it was pretty much Japanese navy and famous capital ships like Missouri, Bismark and Hood.
If you plan to build a collection up, go with 700. If you are just looking to build a particular ship, check around see what scale you might like. You might want to ask here for opinions on the best kit for the money and other things. We have a couple of world class builders that haunt these pages and then there are the rest of us good old boys who can build a pretty mean ship as well. Just ask and you shall receive more advice and recommendations tha you can believe.
Blade48mrd
Joined: September 03, 2004
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 06:31 AM UTC
Ryan -
I started quite a collection of 1/700th 'Waterline' kits severals years back and have since switched over mainly to WW II Armor and dioramas. I've mainly have Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) kits, but a couple other odds/ends left. If you're interested in trying one out, I'd be glad to donate one. Just send me a PM and pick from one of the following;
Fujimi 1/700th Waterline German Battleship Admiral Scheer
Fujimi 1/700th Waterline Japanese Battleship Kongo
Hasegawa 1/700th Waterline USS South Dakota
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Kumano
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Myoko
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Tone
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Lt.Cruiser Kuma
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Lt.Cruiser Tama
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Ayanami
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Matsu
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Shimakaze
The offer is good to anyone that is into the 'floaty things'. You can help me clean out my 'stash' a little.
Blade48mrd
I started quite a collection of 1/700th 'Waterline' kits severals years back and have since switched over mainly to WW II Armor and dioramas. I've mainly have Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) kits, but a couple other odds/ends left. If you're interested in trying one out, I'd be glad to donate one. Just send me a PM and pick from one of the following;
Fujimi 1/700th Waterline German Battleship Admiral Scheer
Fujimi 1/700th Waterline Japanese Battleship Kongo
Hasegawa 1/700th Waterline USS South Dakota
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Kumano
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Myoko
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Tone
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Lt.Cruiser Kuma
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Lt.Cruiser Tama
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Ayanami
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Matsu
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Shimakaze
The offer is good to anyone that is into the 'floaty things'. You can help me clean out my 'stash' a little.
Blade48mrd
thathaway3
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 07:21 AM UTC
Frank's posting contains some very good information to consider, and that has to do with what exactly you're trying to do if you "mix" scales.
For example, if you wanted to put two ships next to each other in a diorama, each of which is 862 feet long in real life, and based on availability, one kit was in 1/700 scale and the other was in 1/600 scale, you'd have two ships which are supposed to be the same size and one of them would be noticeably larger than the other, about 2 1/2 inches worth. You'd see that right away.
On the OTHER hand, since the difference in size is proportional, the smaller the items are, the harder it is to tell the difference.
If you have a 1/600 scale ship model, and you wanted to add PE details from a 1/700 aftermarket set, say a 7 foot tall hatch, the 1/700 PE part would be 2.6mm tall. To be accurate in 1/600 scale it should be 3.0 mm. Most likely the .4 mm error would not be too obviously wrong.
Hope that helps.
Tom
For example, if you wanted to put two ships next to each other in a diorama, each of which is 862 feet long in real life, and based on availability, one kit was in 1/700 scale and the other was in 1/600 scale, you'd have two ships which are supposed to be the same size and one of them would be noticeably larger than the other, about 2 1/2 inches worth. You'd see that right away.
On the OTHER hand, since the difference in size is proportional, the smaller the items are, the harder it is to tell the difference.
If you have a 1/600 scale ship model, and you wanted to add PE details from a 1/700 aftermarket set, say a 7 foot tall hatch, the 1/700 PE part would be 2.6mm tall. To be accurate in 1/600 scale it should be 3.0 mm. Most likely the .4 mm error would not be too obviously wrong.
Hope that helps.
Tom
JMartine
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:00 PM UTC
Sorry to jump in mid-thread..what do you think of thr waterline series, quality-wise? ease of build for a rookie?? I returned to the hobby last year, have accumulated 2-3 'waterline" series, looks like a nice scale/collection to build a tabletop 'armada" and learn/practice various techniques.. thanks! Jim
Gunny
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 10:46 PM UTC
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Sorry to jump in mid-thread..what do you think of thr waterline series, quality-wise? ease of build for a rookie?? I returned to the hobby last year, have accumulated 2-3 'waterline" series, looks like a nice scale/collection to build a tabletop 'armada" and learn/practice various techniques.. thanks! Jim
Ah yes, the Tamiya Waterline series....perfect choice for a newbie, mate! OOB, most are quite good, and with a/m add-ons, you can build some real show pieces!
Keep Modeling,
~Gunny
Gunny
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 10:47 PM UTC
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Ryan -
I started quite a collection of 1/700th 'Waterline' kits severals years back and have since switched over mainly to WW II Armor and dioramas. I've mainly have Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) kits, but a couple other odds/ends left. If you're interested in trying one out, I'd be glad to donate one. Just send me a PM and pick from one of the following;
Fujimi 1/700th Waterline German Battleship Admiral Scheer
Fujimi 1/700th Waterline Japanese Battleship Kongo
Hasegawa 1/700th Waterline USS South Dakota
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Kumano
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Myoko
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese H.Cruiser Tone
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Lt.Cruiser Kuma
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Lt.Cruiser Tama
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Ayanami
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Matsu
Tamiya 1/700th Waterline Japanese Destroyer Shimakaze
The offer is good to anyone that is into the 'floaty things'. You can help me clean out my 'stash' a little.
Blade48mrd
QUITE a deal, don't you think, mates?!? (Hi Mike!
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