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Something "small" I´ve just started....
WeatherMan
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Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 10:11 PM UTC
I´ve started last Monday. A freighter section...More details as I advance...it will be in 1/35, though.













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Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 10:30 PM UTC
wow, it is *HUGE* What do you have in mind Jose if i may ask? a shadowbox? a diorama with a harbour? As a big fan of 1/35 boats myself, my eyes will stay peeled.
By the way, you have an excellent building technique
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Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 11:13 PM UTC
Small??!!

Welcome to Model Shipwrights Jose, and what a fantastic looking project that you have in the works there, mate!

I'm with JB on this one, what are your plans for this "little" build?

Cheers,
~Gunny
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Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 02:17 AM UTC
Olá Chaiça!

Thanks for posting your updates here!
So far, so good - your usual!
Looking forward for more work on it

Cheers,
Rui
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Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 07:41 PM UTC
@ JBA : Thank you for your words. I will reveal a little a bit more abouth the subject, each time I post new pictures. BTW, I´m a big fan of your works. I think they are trully inspirational, and a complete breath of fresh air, in the worldwide diorama scene.

@ Mark R. Smith : Thanks for you words, too. I´m honored to be able to show my work, in this forum. As I´ve said previously, more details as I advance further...

@ Rui Matos aka skipper : Hello my friend, thanks for your words and keep your mouth shut !!! (you know too much...)
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 - 09:01 AM UTC
Ahhhh, Darth V*der is here as well!!!!!!
Kidding here. Very looking forward to see the developments of this work of yours...specially the "submarines" that you love so much!!!!
Good work mate...keep the photos coming and let me know if you need more information.
Right, back to clean my workbench!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 - 09:55 AM UTC

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@ Rui Matos aka skipper : Hello my friend, thanks for your words and keep your mouth shut !!! (you know too much...)



Ok, I will - but I protest!!!!
Just kidding Chaiça! I know that this secret is going to be a bomb!!!

Cheers and keep up
Rui
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 09:12 PM UTC
I advanced a little bit more. The hull is now "sealed", and only needs rivet detail (hundreds of them... )



And while the glue sets on the hull, I decided to start the bridge...



That´s all for now...
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 09:25 PM UTC
Very impressive, mate, is that evergreen plastic or foam-board that you're building with?

~Gunny
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 10:03 PM UTC

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Very impressive, mate, is that evergreen plastic or foam-board that you're building with?

~Gunny



Neither...Well, it´s plastic, but not Evergreen. I found a local supplier of bulk plastic (polistyrene) sheets. They have several sizes, but the average sheet is sold as a 200cm x 150cm (more or less 6´1/2 x 5´) . They have several thicknesses ranging from 0.02cm up to 0.2cm, but I normally use 0.1cm (.040´) and 0.05cm (.020´). Also, they are much more cheaper than Evergreen.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 11:26 PM UTC
Rivits? are you sure of that? there is no way you can see rivits on such a hull - the antifouling paint would be really thick at this special place don't you think?
anyway, it looks really good and I keep posted
JB

PS: thanks!
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 02:38 AM UTC

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Rivits? are you sure of that? there is no way you can see rivits on such a hull - the antifouling paint would be really thick at this special place don't you think?



Now that you mention it, if this was to be an US made freighter, there would be no rivets, as they had turned to all-welded hulls in the late ´30s/early 40´s.....And it will make my work easier.....
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 03:17 AM UTC
Excellent Chaiça!!

I always enjoy to see your projects in this phase - and if you end one, I will love to see them finished
Now, for real, a good section indeed, and I know that is going to be a busy one!
Keep up and please, keep us posted on your progresses - now that the rivet issue is sorted and solved the easier way

Cheers,
Rui
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 05:43 AM UTC

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...I always enjoy to see your projects in this phase - and if you end one, I will love to see them finished



You´re such a nasty boy, aren´t you ????
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 05:50 AM UTC
see it as an incentive José!


Rui
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Posted: Friday, May 23, 2008 - 02:30 PM UTC
WoW! She is going to be beautiful when done - already beautiful now! What a scale!

Bulk plastic - I do the same, always have except for specialty strips/profiles from Evergreen. In the US I used Cadillac Plastics, and in Oz I use a company just down the street from work - they sell plastic furniture, plexiglas/perspex, PVC tubing, and styrene sheet! Great way to go. a sq meter/yard for about US$20. I usually use a 2-part glue method - dots of solvent for good welding, and in between dots of CA/Superglue for tough and seam filling.

Can't wait to see this baby finished, keep those pix coming! (Do you have shipyard workers and construction equipment - she's huuuuuge!)
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 07:35 PM UTC
A couple more advances... The main bridge structure is taking shape now. It only needs some supporting braces and stiffeners.



After that, I started with the deck hatches...Not 100% accurate, but then again, that´s not what I was looking for. I wanted a simple design, crossway between real and imaginary. I´m quite happy with the results











See you...

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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 07:41 PM UTC

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I usually use a 2-part glue method - dots of solvent for good welding, and in between dots of CA/Superglue for tough and seam filling.



I have a similar technique. I call it "Mix-bonding" ...but with a difference. I only use this technique when I need a REALLY though joint (normally near and/on curves). Instead of using regular plastic melting glue / CA (like you do), I use CA / 2-part epoxy glue. The CA faster setting rate will hold the piece in its place, until the slower 2 part epoxy dries.
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Posted: Monday, May 26, 2008 - 06:40 AM UTC
Looking good and taking shape!!!
Hmm - I have to keep my mouth shut

Keep up


Rui
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 06:19 AM UTC
...And now comes a fun part, which is adding barnacles to the hull...

I´m going to use some diluted white glue, very small pebbles (sand might just do the trick, too) and some crushed aromatic herbs (used to cook and add some flavour).

The ingredients:



Started adding some glue to the areas where you want to add the "barnacles". Then place the pebbles in small clusters...


Let them dry for a while. After that, comes the "vegetation" that lies around the barnacles. Add a little glue around the clusters, and start placing some herbs...



And here´s the final result. Well, not exactly final, as I still have to paint all the vegetation and barnacles, as well as doing the same on the opposite side of the hull. What do you think ??? IMO it turned out quite well.


See you soon...
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 06:40 AM UTC
Olá Chaiça!

I liked the barnacles, but the vegetation looked "unreal" like that
It should be all over the hull (wet part!) and not only on some parts
Look at this shot of NRP Delfim back in the 80's:



It has vegetation all over but not that big....
Give it a light sanding or use smaller vegetation

;)

Rui
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 06:58 AM UTC
Vegetation will be toned down, once I start to paint them. I had two different types of herbs, but ended up using the one with the smaller leaves.
Also, I came across several pictures that showed the "vegetation" quite well. While some of the pictures show a fully grown type of vegetation, others show something more similar with a green "dust-type" (like the one seen on Delfim). I have not ended this phase (adding vegetation), yet. More "green" to come after I paint the hull colour.
On the other hand, I think I´ll have to add even more "barnacles", as some of the clusters seen on those photos are REALLY big.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 07:12 AM UTC
Hmm

Carpet like?
;)
You are making a carpet monster
Keep up, Chaiça

Rui
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 08:37 AM UTC
Love the barnacles, mate...carpet monster??? Rui, you're too much!!!!!!

Looking fine, my friend, keep up the great modeling...........
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 01:05 AM UTC
Hmmm, interesting detail the vegetation one... let me take a few notes on this!!!
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