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Tamiya or Airfix?
JimMrr
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Posted: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 11:28 PM UTC
I am thinking of eventuallly doing the HMS Rodney.....but which kit and appropriate photo-etch set is better.......1/600 scale Airfix,or 1/700 scale Tamiya? I notice that my fav place to buy naval stuff sells the Tamiya kit and p/e for half the price of the Airfix kit and p/e.
Gunny
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 12:19 AM UTC
Hi Jim!
Personally, I've never built the Airfix kit, but I would go with the Tamiya, and WEM dedicated photo-etch, mate...the Tamiya kit goes together quite well, and builds up to a fine looker with the WEM PE details.
Cheers,
~Gunny
Personally, I've never built the Airfix kit, but I would go with the Tamiya, and WEM dedicated photo-etch, mate...the Tamiya kit goes together quite well, and builds up to a fine looker with the WEM PE details.
Cheers,
~Gunny
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 05:52 AM UTC
Hi Jim!
On the other hand
, since you will have a 1/600 Edinburgh, maybe a 1/600 Rodney makes sense? 
The Tamiya kit will give you an easier time, but with one Airfix kit under your belt, having a matching kit for your cruiser will enhance your growing fleet. 
--Karl
On the ways:
1:350 Nevada & Arizona
1:125 New Orleans
Fitting out:
1:350 SMS Kaiser & Kronprinz
On the other hand
, since you will have a 1/600 Edinburgh, maybe a 1/600 Rodney makes sense? The Tamiya kit will give you an easier time, but with one Airfix kit under your belt
, having a matching kit for your cruiser will enhance your growing fleet. --Karl
On the ways:
1:350 Nevada & Arizona
1:125 New Orleans
Fitting out:
1:350 SMS Kaiser & Kronprinz
treadhead1952
Joined: June 12, 2008
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 07:02 AM UTC
Hi Jim,
Tamiya is my choice between the two, mostly because I have done more of them and had better luck than with the Airfix kits. Some of them seem to require more work to come up to the same level of detail and fit and finish as the Tamiya kits. Just my personal opinion, of course.
Tamiya is my choice between the two, mostly because I have done more of them and had better luck than with the Airfix kits. Some of them seem to require more work to come up to the same level of detail and fit and finish as the Tamiya kits. Just my personal opinion, of course.
warshipbuild
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:08 AM UTC
If it's Rodney you are after, the Tamiya Rodney builds into the ship as she was in the 1920's - IIRC.
The Airfix one I'm not sure of.
If you are after a version of Rodney which represents her in 1941, then there'll be some alterations and additions to make to the Tamiya kit.
This is one I'd like to see in 1/350 one day!
Dave
The Airfix one I'm not sure of.
If you are after a version of Rodney which represents her in 1941, then there'll be some alterations and additions to make to the Tamiya kit.
This is one I'd like to see in 1/350 one day!
Dave
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:24 AM UTC
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If it's Rodney you are after, the Tamiya Rodney builds into the ship as she was in the 1920's - IIRC.
The Airfix one I'm not sure of.
If you are after a version of Rodney which represents her in 1941, then there'll be some alterations and additions to make to the Tamiya kit.
This is one I'd like to see in 1/350 one day!
Dave
Now that's prime subject for 1:350!
--Karl
JimMrr
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:44 AM UTC
Thanks for all your help and opinions, Im with you guys. Hope the manufacturers are listening...1:350 scale RODNEY guys!!!wooohoooo!
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 12:02 PM UTC
Hi Jim!
Don't forget Nelson!
--Karl
Don't forget Nelson!
--Karl
JimMrr
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 12:56 PM UTC
heheh....yeah...I just cant seem to choose between the two.....Nelson or Rodney...hmmmnnn....lol (gotta admit though....iv seen some pretty crazy camo on these ships...tempting......*wringing my hands with an evil gleam in my eye)
(gotta admit though....iv seen some pretty crazy camo on these ships...tempting......*wringing my hands with an evil gleam in my eye)
Karybdis
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 06:24 PM UTC
Jim, if it's size you want, go with the 1/200 paper model of the Rodney by Fly Model. They make some great kits.
Here's the link to the full gallery on Model Warships:
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/bb/hms/rodney-200-cs/cs-index.html
Here's the link to the full gallery on Model Warships:
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/bb/hms/rodney-200-cs/cs-index.html
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 05:10 AM UTC
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heheh....yeah...I just cant seem to choose between the two.....Nelson or Rodney...hmmmnnn....lol
Tom Freeman produced a wonderful print of a camouflaged Nelson providing fire support on D-Day.
I wonder if a shore bombardment campaign would work for later in 2009?
--Karl
JimMrr
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Posted: Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 01:40 PM UTC
thanks Dade..I did see that paper ship ...my wife and I could not believe it was paper!........Karl I think thats a neat idea about a shore bombardment campaign...thinking of those ships that covered the boys landing in Normandy. Speaking of which..Id like to publicly say that my good freind Reg Prichart passed away this summer ....he was on Sword beach ...third wave...He passed from Parkinsons disease and was one of the most cheerful guys Iv ever met. I will never forget him or his sacrifice for all of us.
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 06:36 AM UTC
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thanks Dade..I did see that paper ship ...my wife and I could not believe it was paper!........Karl I think thats a neat idea about a shore bombardment campaign...thinking of those ships that covered the boys landing in Normandy. Speaking of which..Id like to publicly say that my good freind Reg Prichart passed away this summer ....he was on Sword beach ...third wave...He passed from Parkinsons disease and was one of the most cheerful guys Iv ever met. I will never forget him or his sacrifice for all of us.
Hi Jim!
I'll see where the shore bombardment idea goes
, after all, I am looking for an excuse to model the Royal Navy's monitors like HMS Roberts! Men like Reg Prichart are all the more remarkable when you consider what he must have seen in the Normandy campaign and still retained his humanity. We're blessed to have had such men.
--Karl
JimMrr
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 01:41 PM UTC
Thank you ,Karl...I agree with you. Amazingly I have another friend named Norman Pell who was FIRST wave on Sword beach. These men never had a chance to meet, as I know one from church,and the other from work(one hour away).......interestingly Norm has the same incredibly positive outlook on life. Makes one stop and think...You all should know these men still are on that beach in many ways ......they still carry the nightmares at night...we must never forget their sacrifices
blaster76
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 05:56 PM UTC
Don't limit the campaign to just D-day. Okinawa, Iwo Jima maybe even Guadalcanal to accomodate some of the Japanese vessels. I build exclusively 350 and this campaign as originally suggested would pretty much preclude partcipation of large scale builders. How about both sides of the vichy North Africa thing. I could do the Richelieu. (not sure if I got the right place)
JimMrr
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Posted: Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 11:22 AM UTC
theres no campaign yet,Steve...were just yakkin so far ...I would say definitely not limit to Normandy......all shore-support missions within an agreed upon timeframe sounds logical to me...it would be foolish to exclude so many other vessels.....but we must run all this past the powers that be
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 - 05:37 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Don't limit the campaign to just D-day. Okinawa, Iwo Jima maybe even Guadalcanal to accomodate some of the Japanese vessels. I build exclusively 350 and this campaign as originally suggested would pretty much preclude partcipation of large scale builders. How about both sides of the vichy North Africa thing. I could do the Richelieu. (not sure if I got the right place)
I took the liberty of formally suggesting a shore bombardment campaign for 2009-2010. It would cover any era and could span ships from sail frigates to PBR's. The MSW staff are considering it and we'll know the verdict in a few days.
It's great to see another 1:350 fanatic is out there!
--Karl
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