Nice and subtle Steve,the ship doesn't look like it ran in a demolition derby, just well used.
Beautiful work !
Julian

Thanks Julian,

Subtle is what I was looking for.......Though i fear the stern may be too subtle when sprayed in flat paint.

Now it's on to a subtle belly.

Regards
Steve

Nice work Steve!

Have you considered spraying two slightly different tones of gray to give an effect of depth? (check the link).
Did this on my Revel 1/72 U-boat. Worked well.
Julian

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Hey Julian,

I had noticed your U-boat build before. Nice use of paint.

Paint to give me depth? yes, I will do that. That will require some practice time on a scrap again. I will test pre-shading, post-it notes, and oil dots on acrylic basecoat. Lots of testing. But thats a LONG way down the line.

No way is this going to be a one color flat paint job with no "character". But it will also not be a rust bucket. The sailors are too proud for that.

I will play with color to give it character trying to not overdo. I see a lot of "fade" in the south Pacific. I'm also going to "play" with color to see what I can get it to do with my oil canning effect.

Regards
Steve

Hi Steve First time being here on the ship side ( I like wingy things with wires )
very interesting tech there . It sure does add that missing life to the hull . Not sure if I would jump in to all that scraping but keep up the great work .

PS ...you do know that there is rigging here to

Good to see you over here Teri.........rigging? well, I don't have to fret about that for a long time.

Regards
Steve

I had hoped to post a few progress photos today of the Belly Canning.....but i found that I had to go back to test school. I had to test a new effect and get it 'right" before any cutting.

What I have found by looking closely at some very high res photos of the belly area...........for the most part it is "stressed skin" below the waterline (midships) and "oil canning" on the bow and stern.

From "my perspective", the stressed skin comes about from the welding and riveting process which deforms the steel plates enough to form small "ripples" in the overall skin. Oil canning is the denting inward of the sheet steel from wave action and "immovable objects" such as tug boats. Two different effects here. One dimples in, the other dimples out. So two separate techniques..............soooooooooooo back to school on my A-10 wing.

As a side note, in my practicing I've found that different company's styrene scrapes differently. The Revell styrene is a bit brittle and is a bit more difficult to work with.

So far today, I've measured and marked the lower hull.............and done test scrapings on the A-10 wing. I've been concentrating on just "how much" to scrape..........or not to scrape.

Regards
Steve

I finally got my measurments done and made the first cuts on the belly. Here is a photo update of work still in progress.



There will be more polishing to be done and probably more light sanding. The whole idea will be "sublety".

Regards
Steve

A small update....two very small ones. 2 belly condenser scoops (made out of beer can aluminum ....I love having to "gather" my aluminum stock ) that will have to be "installed" shortly. There will also be two large "pipe" intakes and two large "pipe" discharges. The myriad of smaller discharges escape me as for their detail (still looking for those).



Regards
Steve

Have to hand to you Steve , thats a lot of scraping ! What are you using to polish ?

Hey Terri

Polishing? I use 2000 grit wet/dry sandpaper first, then to polish I use 3600-8000-then-12000 grit polishing "cloths"...........and then I even use a very fine grit rubbing compound. It's just so hard to polish INSIDE those darn squares.

The very piece de resistance............of polishing is the dremel polishing "wheel". That cotton "do-hicky". Got to be REAL careful with that and just barely touch the plastic..........otherwise you'll burn into the plastic. A few "Quick" LIGHT swipes by that and she shines.

I'm sure you noted that i have used some of my leftover "beercan" material.

You noted earlier that I was "downsizing" by going to 144..............this thing is nearly 3 feet long

Regards
Steve

Still that is a lot of polishing , I used the sanding films from testors once before a car project which is long gone now . I was impressed with the shine they produced , but a lot of rubbing . 12000 grid !!! highest I have ever seen is 1600 . Do they come finer then that ?

3 feet long , I have no sence in scale when it comes to ships . that will be a good size when you get her done .

Might have to get a hold of the guys on areoscale to help with beer cans

Hi Teri!

Automotive stores sell moderately finer sanding grits. For the ultra-fine, 5-figure grits, look up furniture restoration suppliers--they have sanding cloths with extraordinarily fine ratings.

--Karl

Karl,

Now you tell me..... I spent WAYYYYY more than I wanted on the "cloths" that I'm using. Furniture eh? I will be making a detour next trip down the pike. Appreciate that.

Update shortly with one "scoop" test fitted to the hull. Won't glue it until the Circular condenser pipe is drilled and placed. That hull is mighty THICK..............too much elbow grease and jossling around just yet.

Regards
Steve

That is a great tip , thanks Karl .

Well here is a small update, I've cut the hull for the Condenser Scoops........and have them dry fitted. I have to get the circular condenser intake pipe drilled and sanded before i glue them in.



Regards
Steve

This build has been a little slow, mostly from researching small detail and also waiting on some new PE.

The latest update has taken a while since I came across new details on the belly condenser scoop. I had looked at plans but they were cause for some confusion. Here is a photo that a friend of mine took at the USS Kidd museum in Baton Rouge. This scoop is on the propulsion trainer inside the museum.



With this info, I scrapped my first try at these intakes and went back to the drawing board. I think it will look better with a coat of primer on it.



I've gathered my materials for the main pump condenser intake pipes that sit just behind each scoop. The hard part with these were the very tiny louvers.

Regards
Steve

Condenser Intakes now finished and primed. Whew...............That took wayyyyyyyyyyy too long. Large high-rez photos like these bring out the flaws.............but I'm done with them....flaws and all. Two more just like this Fwd on the opposite side. Now I have some other hull drains and discharges to build, but nothing as complicated as these. Locations are what I'm now looking for.





Regards
Steve

Steve,

Nice work on the intakes. Taking high res-photos is a great way to check your work. We had talked about that same thing before.

Looking forward to seeing some decks being added to your hull.

Decks? What are those? Besides I don't even want to think about all the scraping off of those raised walkways... ...........and then all the hatches...........nope, I'm enjoying the hull thank you very much!

Regards
Steve

Here is a Hull photo of the USS Cassin Young DD-793 (Fletcher Class) taken during a drydocking period in 1979-80 that i came across. Credit for the photo is: National Park Service photo, Boston National Historical Park.

Of note are the large number of rivets. I had always thought she was a welded ship.

Also, the sonar dome "appears" to be longer than what I have seen before. Did she have another dome incorporated? Or is the camera playing tricks on my eyes?



Enlarged rivet area:



Regards
Steve

OK, for todays update, I THINK I'm done with the lower hull as far as modifications go......except for the sonar dome.

I have completed the Condenser Intakes and Discharges plus an assortment of other discharges, that I can't place names to.........yet. All were done with aluminum or brass pipe. I have kind of a patchwork of primer due to all the other alterations.

The Belly Intakes:



Intakes and discharges:



Forward Eng Room Condenser intakes and discharges:



I've been preparing the Brass risers as the stand. Stupid stand is harder than I thought.

Regards
Steve

The Upper Hull now. The "eye pads". Do not know the official name.

The USS Kidd (the Kidd has a lower row of eye pads that i don't always see in other photos):



And then my version:



Regards
Steve

Great work Steve!