Check out an informative and extraordinary analysis on the loss of the Kirishima off Guadalcanal over at the www.navweaps.com site. It turns out the Washington's gunnery was far better than even Admiral Lee thought and the author's post-sinking event theory for the Kirishima is a provocative read.
--Karl
You are viewing the archived version of the site.
Go to modelshipwrights.com for the current dynamic site!
Go to modelshipwrights.com for the current dynamic site!
Hosted by Steve Joyce
KIRISHIMA SINKING ANALYSIS
CaptSonghouse
California, United States
Joined: August 08, 2008
KitMaker: 1,274 posts
Model Shipwrights: 1,236 posts
Joined: August 08, 2008
KitMaker: 1,274 posts
Model Shipwrights: 1,236 posts
Posted: Friday, December 11, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC
mozartg
United States
Joined: May 23, 2008
KitMaker: 93 posts
Model Shipwrights: 90 posts
Joined: May 23, 2008
KitMaker: 93 posts
Model Shipwrights: 90 posts
Posted: Friday, December 11, 2009 - 10:33 AM UTC
Care to be a little more specific; I've trolled through the site and didn't find the discussion you mention.
Thanx, Stephen
Thanx, Stephen
CaptSonghouse
California, United States
Joined: August 08, 2008
KitMaker: 1,274 posts
Model Shipwrights: 1,236 posts
Joined: August 08, 2008
KitMaker: 1,274 posts
Model Shipwrights: 1,236 posts
Posted: Friday, December 11, 2009 - 10:54 AM UTC
The article's an Adobe Reader download. Here's the address:
www.navweaps.com/index_lundgren/Kirishima_Damage_Analysis.pdf
--Karl
www.navweaps.com/index_lundgren/Kirishima_Damage_Analysis.pdf
--Karl
goldenpony
Zimbabwe
Joined: July 03, 2007
KitMaker: 3,529 posts
Model Shipwrights: 2,419 posts
Joined: July 03, 2007
KitMaker: 3,529 posts
Model Shipwrights: 2,419 posts
Posted: Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:37 PM UTC
JackFlash
Colorado, United States
Joined: January 25, 2004
KitMaker: 11,669 posts
Model Shipwrights: 17 posts
Joined: January 25, 2004
KitMaker: 11,669 posts
Model Shipwrights: 17 posts
Posted: Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 06:10 PM UTC
My father was a Marine guard on the BB56. His battle station was at a Bofors and he described the event to me once. The broadside from the Washington pushed her back about 6ft. They could see the Kirshima's silhouette lit up by the explosions.
blaster76
Texas, United States
Joined: September 15, 2002
KitMaker: 8,985 posts
Model Shipwrights: 3,509 posts
Joined: September 15, 2002
KitMaker: 8,985 posts
Model Shipwrights: 3,509 posts
Posted: Monday, November 29, 2010 - 04:54 AM UTC
fascnating. Loved all the diagrams, helped to put thngs in perspective. YEa Washigton for accurate gunnery.
Posted: Monday, November 29, 2010 - 07:31 AM UTC
That was a very interesting read. Thank you.
rea00cy
Florida, United States
Joined: April 29, 2009
KitMaker: 47 posts
Model Shipwrights: 44 posts
Joined: April 29, 2009
KitMaker: 47 posts
Model Shipwrights: 44 posts
Posted: Monday, November 29, 2010 - 12:47 PM UTC
Very interesting. Makes me think about a diorama; you know, big shell splashes, gun blasts, fire and smoke ....mayhem everywhere. It is now on the to do list
TracyWhite
Washington, United States
Joined: January 18, 2005
KitMaker: 527 posts
Model Shipwrights: 464 posts
Joined: January 18, 2005
KitMaker: 527 posts
Model Shipwrights: 464 posts
Posted: Monday, November 29, 2010 - 03:55 PM UTC
There's also this collection of analysis just posted to
http://www.navweaps.com/index_lundgren/index_lundgren.htm
Also, a broadside does NOT move a ship that much, please read (from the same site):
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/index_lundgren/index_lundgren.htm
Also, a broadside does NOT move a ship that much, please read (from the same site):
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm
CaptSonghouse
California, United States
Joined: August 08, 2008
KitMaker: 1,274 posts
Model Shipwrights: 1,236 posts
Joined: August 08, 2008
KitMaker: 1,274 posts
Model Shipwrights: 1,236 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 07:21 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Very interesting. Makes me think about a diorama; you know, big shell splashes, gun blasts, fire and smoke ....mayhem everywhere. It is now on the to do list
Well, the nighttime setting will be tough to photograph for this site. I will be taking on such challenging scenes in 2011.
--Karl
rea00cy
Florida, United States
Joined: April 29, 2009
KitMaker: 47 posts
Model Shipwrights: 44 posts
Joined: April 29, 2009
KitMaker: 47 posts
Model Shipwrights: 44 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 08:33 AM UTC
Iluminating target!
Cheers,
Augusto
Cheers,
Augusto
thathaway3
Michigan, United States
Joined: September 10, 2004
KitMaker: 1,610 posts
Model Shipwrights: 566 posts
Joined: September 10, 2004
KitMaker: 1,610 posts
Model Shipwrights: 566 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 04:11 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Also, a broadside does NOT move a ship that much, please read (from the same site):
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm
As an engineer as well as a former Field Artilleryman (and a real lover of naval history) I absolutely LOVED the thorough analysis disproving the widely held myth about the broadside of the main guns moving the ship.
I have no doubt some who may have been aboard a ship when a salvo was fired would SWEAR that the ship moved. So much for the credibility of "eye-witnesses"!!
Here's an analogy. Go stand on some ice and throw a handful of marbles.
JackFlash
Colorado, United States
Joined: January 25, 2004
KitMaker: 11,669 posts
Model Shipwrights: 17 posts
Joined: January 25, 2004
KitMaker: 11,669 posts
Model Shipwrights: 17 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 05:29 PM UTC
Quoted Text
There's also this collection of analysis just posted to
http://www.navweaps.com/index_lundgren/index_lundgren.htm
Also, a broadside does NOT move a ship that much, please read (from the same site):
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm
You have to admit that the overhead images of the Battleships firing a broadside definately show the wakes as staright as if no guns had been fired.