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U.S. Sub Chasers
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 08:13 AM UTC
Hi Guys,

My Dad served in the U.S. Navy during World War 2 aboard as a gunner on a Sub Chaser. I would like to do a model of one but don't know if there are any kits available in the market. I would prefer 1/350 s scale. If you anyone can help it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
David.
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 08:44 AM UTC
Hey Dave, dependes on the type of chasser he was on. The old Glencoe 1/74 scale one is still available. Mainly used on the coast during the 2nd W.W. as it was a left over from the first. Needs a bit of work to bring it up to standards but can be a nice kit. Don't know of anything other than that as the navy stuff is something I haven't built in years. Though destroyers, escorts and corvets are around in many scales.
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 09:14 AM UTC
Unfortunately, ... other than big models meant for R/C and the ones offered by FINE ARTS MODELS - there are not any kit of a WW2 SC. There are 1:350 scale kits of the PC version of Sub Chasers.

I had to have the model of SC-699 that I gave my late father scratchbuilt ...

The GLENCOE kit is not really suitable for conversion to a WW2 SC. Its beam is too narrow and its transom is wrong.

Garth
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:00 AM UTC
Hey Garth, your right about a conversion but, they were used here in the northern coast during the begining of the war. Not knowing which ones Dave was looking for, I chimed in with what info I had. The Glencoe kit is a oldie and not so goodie, but seeing them on a ship site built up with alot of work, look good. Mine is still on the back of the bench as I wonder what in the world to do with it. Maybe a sacrifice to the god of plastic? Actualy, I was thinking of using just the two sections of the hull and widen it for a coastal type ship in 1/35th for a Dunkirk evac.
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:51 AM UTC
I suppose one could use the kit as one of the SC-1s turned over to the USCG or the SC-431 when she was used for that experiment which had a Liberty aircraft engine mounted on her aft deck.
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 02:39 PM UTC
Thanks Guys much appreciated.

My Dad is 91 years old and he memory is a bit foggy. He said his ship was built during the war so it was not a pre-war boat. He was also the rear gunner so the boat had a AA gun on it.. He said it was over 100 feet.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 12:29 AM UTC
Well, the SCs were 110' sir. And, they did have a 20mm aft, two 20mm just abaft of the bridge and either a 40mm or 3-inch gun on the foredeck, with Hedgehogs on the foredeck too. The 3-inch guns were either a 3-inch 50, or a 3-inch 23-cal.

If you give me the boat's number, I can help.

Garth
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 03:39 AM UTC
Thanks Garth,

I will be getting his service records in a few weeks and they will indicate what boat he served on. I will let you know then.

cheers,

Dave.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 04:13 AM UTC
OK. I'll be here.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 05:23 AM UTC
The comment of the hedgehogs has reminded me that someone in the 70's did a ship with them, possable S.C. maybe 1/72nd scale and I belive white plastic. Can't remember any more as to what or who though. I remember that they were mounted just before the deck house, 2 of them with storage lockers. Now I wonder if the gears are slipping, anyone remember this ship?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 05:38 AM UTC
Well, destroyers, destroyer escorts and frigates and corvettes had them too ... so, could it be that which you're remembering?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 05:41 AM UTC
Hey Garth, now your really pushing my memory to it's limit. Still I remember them being about 1/72nd scale as they were a bit large and I only know of matchbox's corvette in that scale. But then again, it wouldn't be the first time I sliped a gear or two. With me now, if something goes in the memory bank, got to dump something for the room.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 05:54 AM UTC

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The comment of the hedgehogs has reminded me that someone in the 70's did a ship with them, possable S.C. maybe 1/72nd scale and I belive white plastic. Can't remember any more as to what or who though. I remember that they were mounted just before the deck house, 2 of them with storage lockers. Now I wonder if the gears are slipping, anyone remember this ship?


There was a scratch-built SC on the cover of an issue of Fine Scale Modeler a number of years ago. There was also an article inside about it. I don't remember the scale, I do think it was larger than 1/72, possibly 1/32. It was a terrific looking model. Al
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 06:05 AM UTC
Hey Al?

What year was that? I've gotten FSM for years now. Don't remember a SC on it. If there was; I'd have shown it to my late father.

Garth
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 06:30 AM UTC

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Hey Al?

What year was that? I've gotten FSM for years now. Don't remember a SC on it. If there was; I'd have shown it to my late father.

Garth


Hello Garth, Don't know where mine is, but I Googled "Model Sub-Chaser Fine Scale Modeler" and found a copy of the magazine listed on E-bay. It is dated March/April 1986. The model was of SC-1055, in 1/32 scale. If you're interested, the seller is asking $13.95 for the magazine. Al
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 09:31 AM UTC


There was a scratch-built SC on the cover of an issue of Fine Scale Modeler a number of years ago. There was also an article inside about it. I don't remember the scale, I do think it was larger than 1/72, possibly 1/32. It was a terrific looking model. Al[/quote]


Would love to have a picture of this SC.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 10:25 AM UTC

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There was a scratch-built SC on the cover of an issue of Fine Scale Modeler a number of years ago. There was also an article inside about it. I don't remember the scale, I do think it was larger than 1/72, possibly 1/32. It was a terrific looking model. Al



Would love to have a picture of this SC.[/quote]

[Quoted text] I Googled "Model Sub-Chaser Fine Scale Modeler" and found a copy of the magazine listed on E-bay.

Dave, You can see the cover at least. Al
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Posted: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 02:20 PM UTC
[quote]The comment of the hedgehogs has reminded me that someone in the 70's did a ship with them, possable S.C. maybe 1/72nd scale and I belive white plastic.
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That was probably the Lindberg kit of the 95' CAPE class Coast Guard cutter.

Al Ross
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 01:11 AM UTC
He was thinking of the model of the SC which appeared in FSM in 1986, Mr. Ross.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 07:24 AM UTC
Actualy, it was a model I built back in the late 70's. Surprized that I can remember that at all. Back then it was only ship models that I built. Moved on to 1/72 aircraft after that, lost interest because of females and then got back into models and dio's in the early 80's thanks to Al (taffy 3). Still trying to remember the darn ship but probably wont get much farther. Nice discussion about them. Sorry if it seems like your question got highjacked Dave. Didn't mean to get it off the subject. And Al, it might have been the C.G. Cutter, I can't say for sure. If it's still out there a pic might jog the old memory a bit. Will google tonight when I get off the roof, too hot right now but am headed back to work now that it's cooled down some.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 08:03 AM UTC
Dave,

This is the model I mentioned: http://www.ehobbies.com/lnd70887.html

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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 08:48 AM UTC

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Dave,

This is the model I mentioned: http://www.ehobbies.com/lnd70887.html

Al Ross



Thanks Al,

So is this a WW2 sub chaser that was transferred to the U.S. Coast guard for patrol duty.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:00 AM UTC
No Dave,

It's not. The kit is of a USCG 95 foot patrol boat which entered service in the 50s and were placed out of service in the late 1980s into the early 1990s. It is not a SC from WW2.

Garth
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:03 AM UTC

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So is this a WW2 sub chaser that was transferred to the U.S. Coast guard for patrol duty.


No, the 95' boats were Coast Guard designed and did not enter service until 1953. The most common USCG boat used for this purpose during WWII was the 83' design. http://uscg83footers.org/early2.jpg

Many, many years ago, the now-defunct Marine Model Company produced a rather nice wooden kit of this type. I have one in the stash, but will probably never build it.

Al Ross
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC
Here are a couple configurations for the 110' SC:


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