Garth,
I think Mr Ross was just qouting my comment, he wasn't saying the decks were covered in canvas.

Lol Al, you have my sympathy. I see he posted a more rabid version of his misunderstanding on his Facebook PT page:

Tim Connelly

May I show you what level of disrespect I've been shown by one "PT expert"?

He jumps on me for stating something I was told and makes me feel like an idiot ...

And now, he says that he'd go with something a vet told someone which was VERBATIM what I said a few years ago, about the decks of PT boats being covered by canvas and made me feel like an idiot for even bringing it up?

Excuse my French, but what the f***?

T. Garth Connelly

He used his FB page to attack the pt103.com owner too: http://www.pt103.com/tgp/trsogesakvr.html

I've notified Trixie Delight, maybe she can do something about this.

Anyone have pictures, drawings, or info about just how it was mounted? It would make an interesting modification. Al

Thanks for the photo of that 20mm mount on the 157 boat. I'd be tempted to do that modification, if and when, I decide what boat to do with my stashed 109 kit. Was that a factory installation or a field modification? If so, were any other boats using that gun mount? Does anyone know if, at the time of that photo, the 157 still mounted her torpedo tubes, or was she using the roll-off racks instead? Any and all help is appreciated. The more that I learn about these boats, the more questions I have. Al

man the nit picking and bashing. I thought that was only on the other site about 10 years ago and in the tank section. Love the tank section argue over what tank had this and that. Had some guy swear up and down that a certain panther tank could not have this item on it according to the book he had about production. I pointed out cannabalization, field mods, useing old stock up first.. next day there were 15 pix posted showing what i said. Looks like they both agree no canvas on the outside of deck. good i wouldn't have done that mod anyway. and of course my all time favorite. color. LOL mix it with water, gas, turpentine , paint thinner. thick thin. Show 10 pix of this and 10 pix of that. Weathering, repaint, touch up the variations probably roll into the 1000's

Both of you are acknowledged experts probably find you agree on far more than you disagree .

Arguments posted else where should be just that elsewhere

Thanks to both of you for your valued input over these many years nobody here thinks either of you are stupid

man the nit picking and bashing.

I thought since the pot has been stirred up a bit on this subject, I might throw out another story on doing the 109 when JFK was skipper of it. A review of Italeri's PT-109 over at Cybermodeler mentioned an issue with a mis-fired torpedo. Here is the link to the review and I pasted the comment of said mis-fire.

"In the case of PT-109 before Lt(jg) John Kennedy took command, there was an accidental launch of the foreword starboard torpedo tube while in the stowed position and the departing torpedo took out the starboard depth charge rack and a section of the foot railing on its way overboard. The missing rack wasn't replaced by the time Kennedy came aboard."

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/it/kit_it_5613.shtml


Cheers



PS - Any word on Merit's 1/48 early Elco kit release ?

Anyone have pictures, drawings, or info about just how it was mounted? It would make an interesting modification. Al