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Cuhail
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2005 - 02:46 PM UTC
Fast, sleek, armored, stealth?
Looking for any refs and pics of MODERN or even experimental fast, light (60') Military Boats.
Maybe the Navy SEALs have a nifty model that flies at 60kpH and you have a picture you can show me.
How bout Marine Recon?
Thunder Alley style
ALA Hollywood Hulk Hogan?

HELP...!

Cuhail
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2005 - 10:49 PM UTC
In my gallery are some photos of the US Navy's latest small crafts. They are in the album name surprisingly OIF Small Craft.
Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 12:10 AM UTC
Here's a small one. But I'm quite sure this one is NOT armored

It's made by Zodiac

Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 12:14 AM UTC
Light SEAL Support Craft (LSSC)
Displacement: 5 tons
Length: 24 feet
Beam: 9.5 feet
Draft: 1.5 feet
Propulsion: 2 Ford 427 gasoline engines, 350 hp, 2 Jacuzzi water pumps
Range:
Crew: 3 + 6 SEALs Weapons: 2 single 7.62mm mg and 1 .50 BMG.

Note: 16 built by Grafton Boatworks. In service 1968

Not sure how fast it goes, but with twin 427's, id say pretty dam quick.. LOL


Dave



*EDIT*
http://www.militaryhobbies.ca/product.cfm?ProductID=3995.. . For anyone that wants to build one...
MMcLean
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 12:21 AM UTC
Cuhail,

If im not mistaken, the boat that you are refering to may be the US Navy MkV ( Mark Five) Special Operations Craft. These are operated by SWCCs ( Special Warfare Combatant craft Crewman. They also operate the Rigid hull inflatables like the one that Frenchy which looks to be a 14ft? one.

Here are some basic demensions of the 3 most common USN SOC, All content from the SWCC Webpage


Mark V Special Operations Craft (MKV SOC)

General Characteristics
Length Overall: 81' - 2" Beam: 17' - 5 3/4"
Draft: 5' Maximum (static)
Fuel Capacity: 2600 Gallons
Construction: Aluminum Hull
Engines: Twin 2285 HP MTU 12V396 TE94 Diesel
Waterjets: KaMeWa50S
Top Speed: 45-48 Knots
Range: 500+ NM


11-Meter NSW Rigid Inflatable Boat (11M NSW RIB)

General Characteristics
Length Overall: 36'
Draft: 2' 11"
Fuel Capacity: 180 Gallons
Construction: FRP w/air-filled sponson
Engines: 470 HP Twin Caterpillar 3126 Diesels
Waterjets: KaMeWa FF280 Mix
Top Speed: 45+ Knots
Range: 200+ NM

Special Operations Craft Riverine (SOCR)


General Characteristics
Length Overall: 33'
Draft: 2'
Fuel Capacity: 190 Gallons
Construction: Aluminum Hull w/FRP accessories
Engines: 440 Twin Yanmar 6LY2M-STE Diesels
Waterjets: Hamilton HJ292
Top Speed: 40+ Knots
Range: 195+ NM

Hope this info helps.

Heres the official SEALS Website.

http://www.seal.navy.mil/


HTH

Matt
Cuhail
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 03:08 PM UTC
Thanks Dave,
You have quite the abundant gallery. Much obliged. I grabbed some photos of the MkV.

What a boat!
I live on the famous "Chain of Lakes" in Northern Illinois, and believe me, I see a LOT of boats! If I could bring that baby out for the weekend, NOBODY would give me a hard time in the "No Wake!" zones. :-)

Thanks guys, I'll post photos of my build as it continues.
I took my st. daughter's toy plastic boat, tore the snap-on top off and I am trying to use the hull. Unfortunately, the type of plastic it is, it won't accept glue. I am thinking I will have to make a resin replica so I can glue the topside I'm building, to the stupid hull I used. How maddening.
Especially since I have never poured resin in my life.
Nor have I casted.
Anybody hire out?

No, really.
Does anybody do castings and pour replicas that will do a couple of hulls?

First reasonable offer.
I'll pay all the shipping. (of course)
I'll give you the original if ya make me two replicas.

Anyone?

Cuhail
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 06:36 PM UTC
Try using super glue or epoxy on the hull
straightedge
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Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 07:58 AM UTC
They always give you the slow speeds of their big ships, but a long time ago, I used to have that book of world records, and they had in there an old ship that they retired cause it was to slow, at over 60 knots, and this was better then 10 to maybe 20 years ago.

So if that is to slow, just think what the top speed is, they was saying the fastest jet boat with a 455 cubic inch in the 70's or 80's couldn't even keep up to the speed of an nuclear aircraft carrier at full speed, then they told me the subs are even faster yet.

Think about it, they leave here real slow, then as soon as they get out of site, the next thing you know they are over by Iraq, the only time they go slow is if they got an old battle ship to go with them, or other non nuclear ships to refuel.
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Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 08:19 AM UTC


The Enterprise aircraft carrier has eight nuclear reactors, too much of its own good. Top speed is classified.

During sea trials, the ship went so fast that the waves damaged its bow and hull. Eight reactors is definite overkill and the U.S. Navy never repeated this mistake again.

Nimitiz-class carriers have two nuclear reactors. Of course technology and miniaturization advanced since the time of the Enterprise.

And a lot has to do with maintenance as well. The SEALs have cigarette racing boats just like in Miami Vice, but to run for one hour requires something like four to eight hours of maintenance for each hour. So is the speed worth it? Yes and no.
sgtsauer
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Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 11:23 AM UTC
http://www.specialoperations.com/Navy/watercraft.html

For you vietnam fans, this site even states that 24 modernized PBR's are still in service.
Cuhail
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Posted: Monday, May 09, 2005 - 09:06 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Try using super glue or epoxy on the hull



I'll try it, but, I have little hope.

Don't get me wrong though, I will be the first to say otherwise when it works. :-)

Thanks,
Cuhail
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