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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2006 - 02:12 PM UTC
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But 8.00pm GMT Sunday 12th February there is a programme on BBC1 about the search for the wreck of the Ark Royal.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:02 AM UTC

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But 8.00pm GMT Sunday 12th February there is a programme on BBC1 about the search for the wreck of the Ark Royal.


I don't know why it would be off topic. If not here, where? Personally I LOVE this kind of stuff. I could never go down in one of those little subs, because I'm just a bit claustophobic, but I love watching things like this.

It's like an old joke where a woman catches her husband looking at Playboy. He says, "I read this for the same reason I read National Geographic, to see on the page the sights I'll never see in real life."

If this show makes it to the states I'll be watching for it.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:23 AM UTC
i'll certainly watch that, i'm building the ark royal for the flat tops campaign (although i've not actually glued a single part together yet!)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 02:21 AM UTC
Thanks David for the heads up I will be watching this, but would of missed it without your pointer.

Ciao
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 02:49 AM UTC
More undersea archeology....marvelous I've seen pictures of the Bismark and Yamato, and I think they've found a couple of the Midway ships. I'll have to catch it whe they show it
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 03:21 AM UTC
Sorry Phil, couldn't resist!


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i'll certainly watch that, i'm building the ark royal for the flat tops campaign (although i've not actually glued a single part together yet!)


Does that classify as "building"? :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 03:29 AM UTC
thats a really good point, murdo. if i take that to its logical conclusion i'm "building" all 40 odd kits in my stash simultanesly........erm....at the same time! :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 03:50 AM UTC

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i'm building the ark royal for the flat tops campaign (although i've not actually glued a single part together yet!)


I'm "building" her too for that campaign (she's still in the box...) Using the Airfix 1/600 kit with a White Ensign PE set, which one do you have?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 04:00 AM UTC
I would watch it, but I do not think they are showing it here in the states yet, not for awhile I would assume.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 04:45 AM UTC

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More undersea archeology....marvelous I've seen pictures of the Bismark and Yamato, and I think they've found a couple of the Midway ships. I'll have to catch it whe they show it


They've found the Yorktown and pieces of wreckage identified as the Kaga. For more info on that go here.



Kaga Found

The real treasure trove of lost ships is Quadalcanal. Ballard found the cruiser Quincy, I could be wrong there but it was one of the three US cruisers sunk at Savo, the HMAS Canberra, IJN Kirishima, quite a few American and Japanese destroyers, the Atlanta, though you couldn't make out much, and several aircraft.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 09:21 AM UTC

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i'll certainly watch that, i'm building the ark royal for the flat tops campaign (although i've not actually glued a single part together yet!)


Ah, that's called research and it's an important part of building.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:30 PM UTC
I'm doing a 'virtual build' (taking the bits out of the box and looking at them) too. Mine is the Revell one which I managed to find at the end of last year.

There is an account of the original rediscovery here, with some impressive sonar images

http://www.edgetech.com/pdf/Hydro2004
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 11:34 PM UTC
graham, thats exactly what i've got, the airfix kit with a white ensign set!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 12:08 AM UTC
Maybe we can compare notes on the build? Although I'm still at the virtual stage as well :-)

Need to finish Campanula (she's only taken just over two years...) and KGV first though
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 12:26 AM UTC
well my first impressions of the WEM set, when i opened it was that i've maybe bitten off more than i could chew! i also found this site which has an online build of the ark royal with the p/e set
[urlhttp://www.steelnavy.com/AirfixArkRoyalMC.htm][/url]
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 12:28 AM UTC
i'll try again! http://www.steelnavy.com/AirfixArkRoyalMC.htm
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 12:59 AM UTC
Rodger,
There's a very interesting book by Ballard about the Guadacanal wrecks and battles
THE LOST SHIPS OF GUADACANAL
by Robert D. Ballard and Rick Archbold
ISBN 0-297-81305-6
It's a companion to the TV show and has some really good pics and artist's representations on fold out sheets.
Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 02:30 AM UTC
o.k. you got me! after reading this thread i could'nt help myself and have actually started my ark royal...well cleaning up parts to get started. but i am officially building this kit now
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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 04:46 AM UTC

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Rodger,
There's a very interesting book by Ballard about the Guadacanal wrecks and battles
THE LOST SHIPS OF GUADACANAL
by Robert D. Ballard and Rick Archbold
ISBN 0-297-81305-6
It's a companion to the TV show and has some really good pics and artist's representations on fold out sheets.
Tom


Oh yes, and I've got it. I've got most all of Ballard's books, Titanic, Bismarck, Guadalcanal, Luisitania, one called Lost Liners, and Midway. About the only one I know of his I don't have is about wrecks in the Pacific, but from what I've seen it mainly covers things in the other books.

I'm telling you I'm addicted to underwater archeology. I just love reading about that stuff and looking at the pictures.

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Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 05:16 AM UTC



Thanks for the link Phil, very useful. Know what you mean about WEM's PE - I've been doing some work on KGV today and blimey, putting together radars and 20mm Oerlikons in 1/700 scale is a bit of a challenge...

Never mind, Ark is 1/600 so she should be a LOT easier!

:-)
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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 05:37 PM UTC

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More undersea archeology....marvelous I've seen pictures of the Bismark and Yamato, and I think they've found a couple of the Midway ships. I'll have to catch it whe they show it


They've found the Yorktown and pieces of wreckage identified as the Kaga. For more info on that go here.



Kaga Found

The real treasure trove of lost ships is Quadalcanal. Ballard found the cruiser Quincy, I could be wrong there but it was one of the three US cruisers sunk at Savo, the HMAS Canberra, IJN Kirishima, quite a few American and Japanese destroyers, the Atlanta, though you couldn't make out much, and several aircraft.



Late as usual

I have this double NGM presentation taped (VHS). Aired here in 1999 or so...
I also have the book on this same mission - The Lost ships of Guadalcanal by Ballard

And a couple of months ago, there was a program (didn't catch the start - but I think it was National Geographic too) with Dennis Haysbert (the President form the 24 Series) hosting and searching (visiting actually) some of the underwater relics in the Pacific:
The Arizona, the IJN A-Type Target A midget sub sunk before Pearl Harbour raid, the Saratoga and the Nagato at Bikini Atoll

Real nice feature!

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