I’m working on my Hornet and wondering if any of you knew the color of the propellor shafts.
I have to drawings of the ship with the colors and one shows it as being red and the other shows it as a grayish blue.
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Propeller shafts color?
redneck

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Posted: Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 09:59 PM UTC
Plasticat

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Posted: Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 10:20 PM UTC
I'm glad you asked this question. I have always "assumed" that they were painted with the red paint to minimize corrosion. But I have seen many models with other colors. I look forward to hearing from someone "in the know".
Grumpyoldman

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Posted: Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:03 PM UTC
Since the struts are red lead, I would assume the yard-birds didn't mask off the shafts just to make it look prettier.


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Posted: Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:30 PM UTC
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Since the struts are red lead, I would assume the yard-birds didn't mask off the shafts just to make it look prettier.
Can't argue with that now can ye?!
...Great pic, Dave!~Gunny
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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:41 AM UTC
:-) One of my old ships by the way..... New screws... :-)
redneck

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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 01:05 AM UTC
Thanks Dave. But I’m still confused.
The shaft on the far propeller appears to be light gray. Am I calling something by the wrong name again or has it just not been painted yet?
The shaft on the far propeller appears to be light gray. Am I calling something by the wrong name again or has it just not been painted yet?
allycat

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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 01:47 AM UTC
Grumpy,
The port shaft doesn't look red leaded to me, more of a grey colour. What's the ship?
Tom
The port shaft doesn't look red leaded to me, more of a grey colour. What's the ship?
Tom
blaster76

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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 02:13 AM UTC
That is an interesting point. On 2 of my ships, I went brass on the other 7 its red. On my 72nd TYPE VII though, it is dark gray
Grumpyoldman

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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 02:23 AM UTC
The Kennedy.....
Just noticed the Grey shalf.... could be they haven't gotten around to spraying the anti fouling paint on it yet.
I can't see a reason for not applying the red-lead to the shafts, since they are just a subject to the same fouling and corrosion as everything else below the water line. As far as I know the only things left unpainted were the zinc plates, and the screws.
Here's two shots of a Canadian ship in dry dock, I like the blue color!!


I believe the shaft bearing is still unpainted primer.
And one final one of the USS Cole, on the way back for repairs.
Painted red, but surely showing signs of it wearing off.

Just noticed the Grey shalf.... could be they haven't gotten around to spraying the anti fouling paint on it yet.
I can't see a reason for not applying the red-lead to the shafts, since they are just a subject to the same fouling and corrosion as everything else below the water line. As far as I know the only things left unpainted were the zinc plates, and the screws.
Here's two shots of a Canadian ship in dry dock, I like the blue color!!


I believe the shaft bearing is still unpainted primer.
And one final one of the USS Cole, on the way back for repairs.
Painted red, but surely showing signs of it wearing off.

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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 03:27 AM UTC
Great pictures Dave. Great perspective on the Kennedy's screws/rudders. They are HUGE! Thanks for the info! It is much appreciated.
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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:28 AM UTC
Thanks Dave,
As I looked at your answer I suddenly thought we could have had a "Guess the Screw" contest.
As I looked at your answer I suddenly thought we could have had a "Guess the Screw" contest.
redneck

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Posted: Monday, June 12, 2006 - 06:04 PM UTC
Thanks.
I’ll be painting them red then.
I’ll be painting them red then.
blaster76

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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 12:53 AM UTC
those rudders are absolutely tremendous on the Kennedy. I just thought it was a perspective thing with those itty bitty guys in the background, I would have opted for the ship being one of the Ticonderogas or something in that vein. Thanks for the info, looks like I mostly got it right.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 02:11 AM UTC
Dave,
The Cole's screw and shaft aren't showing worn paint, that is marine growth. IGood old barnacles.
You guys are correct, any part of the shaft that is exposed is painted, usually in red lead to prevent corrosion and inhibit marine growth.
The Cole's screw and shaft aren't showing worn paint, that is marine growth. IGood old barnacles.
You guys are correct, any part of the shaft that is exposed is painted, usually in red lead to prevent corrosion and inhibit marine growth.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 05:14 AM UTC
Thanks Cob, That explains why my photo of the Little Rock shows an almost completely grey bottom. I guess it was when she first arrived in dry dock.
Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 08:29 AM UTC
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Thanks Cob, That explains why my photo of the Little Rock shows an almost completely grey bottom. I guess it was when she first arrived in dry dock.
As much as I hate to disagree with the Chief of the Boat - as a skimmer puke thats been in the yards several times = it's hot plastic and anti fouling - red lead has been out of the Navy supply system for many years now. Red lead was the prfered paint on interior machine space decks but alas it's gone now you are more likely to see diamond deck or the new sound dampening tile - see below- from OSHA for yard birds
Process: Painting
Description
Metal surfaces are painted to prevent rust and marine growth. Hot plastic rust preventive and anti-fouling paint are applied to underside of the hull to prevent rust and marine growth. Coats of red lead and copper-bottom paint are sometimes used as well. Above the water line, metal surfaces may be treated with red lead or zinc chloride primer and finish paints applied by the sprayer. On interior surfaces, fire-resistant paints may be applied by brush, spray or roller (Best, "Painting - ship hulls").
Grumpyoldman

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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 03:47 PM UTC
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Quoted TextThanks Cob, That explains why my photo of the Little Rock shows an almost completely grey bottom. I guess it was when she first arrived in dry dock.
As much as I hate to disagree with the Chief of the Boat - as a skimmer puke thats been in the yards several times = it's hot plastic and anti fouling - red lead has been out of the Navy supply system for many years now. Red lead was the prfered paint on interior machine space decks but alas it's gone now you are more likely to see diamond deck or the new sound dampening tile - see below- from OSHA for yard birds
Process: Painting
Description
Metal surfaces are painted to prevent rust and marine growth. Hot plastic rust preventive and anti-fouling paint are applied to underside of the hull to prevent rust and marine growth. Coats of red lead and copper-bottom paint are sometimes used as well. Above the water line, metal surfaces may be treated with red lead or zinc chloride primer and finish paints applied by the sprayer. On interior surfaces, fire-resistant paints may be applied by brush, spray or roller (Best, "Painting - ship hulls").
:-) :-) I guess I'm showing my age with the red lead... :-) :-) I also remember playing with white lead !!! And I'm sure that's long gone from inventory and use also. :-) :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 07:14 PM UTC
OK fine, I'm showing my age too :-) I guess hull red would be a better term.
Posted: Friday, June 16, 2006 - 08:40 AM UTC
Hey that's ok guys - I guess I'm showing I was a deck ape!
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