Ahoy there shipmates!
Here's a little preview of my current project:
1/400 scale ORP Kaszub (Polish Torpedo boat - previoulsy a WWI German Torpedoboot).
Water is made (so far) with Blue Styrofoam, Modeling Paste. Painted with acrilics and two coats of varnish. It will take some more white foam (artists oil paint) and another coat (or two) of varnish.
The ship is a Mirage model, with a brand dedicated PE Set, portholes drilled and some more scratchbuilt parts....
I have made a little more progress... Xmas and a "little" cut on the right index finger made it to a hault!
Feedback is welcome
Skipper
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ORP Kaszub - Current Project
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 12:34 AM UTC
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 01:17 AM UTC
Ahoy Skipper,
She is looking great so far! The water and waves......very realistic.
Great work, as usual, more pics when she is done.
Happy Holidays,
Joe
She is looking great so far! The water and waves......very realistic.
Great work, as usual, more pics when she is done.
Happy Holidays,
Joe
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 01:35 AM UTC
Thanks Joe
(we need a blushing icon )
I hope you (and the rest) had a Great Xmas
Skipper
(we need a blushing icon )
I hope you (and the rest) had a Great Xmas
Skipper
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 02:08 AM UTC
It was a snowless Xmas this year....not a flake! ....could hear Santa's sleigh
screeching on the asphalt...boy was he pissed.
but this morning(Dec.26)......6 inches of very wet snow! :-)
I off till Jan. 8th.......MODELLING and more MODELLING!
Need to finish up some projects.
Later,
Joe
screeching on the asphalt...boy was he pissed.
but this morning(Dec.26)......6 inches of very wet snow! :-)
I off till Jan. 8th.......MODELLING and more MODELLING!
Need to finish up some projects.
Later,
Joe
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Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 02:39 AM UTC
Ah well Rui, it looks really good, great dynamics in the scene, but is it me or is it a bit "high" on the water, or maybe that's the bottom that is not as low as it could be? -but well you're a sailor so you must know what a ship looks like in bad weather
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 02:57 AM UTC
Allô Jean-Bernard
Yes, I guess it could be (just a little) "bow dry" but I am using the box art as reference - as it will be also used for weathering this vessel - since I don't have any reference on this kind of vessels, and since this is supposed to be a "simple" project....
Back to the topic - it could be caught in such a situation, even with a small wave lenght like this.
I have photos of my navy days, with almost flat sea (almost) where the bow of a frigate is all out of the deep.. Still have to make some dripping on the bow and main deck, which can modify the aired situation.
Thanks for your feedback
Skipper
Yes, I guess it could be (just a little) "bow dry" but I am using the box art as reference - as it will be also used for weathering this vessel - since I don't have any reference on this kind of vessels, and since this is supposed to be a "simple" project....
Back to the topic - it could be caught in such a situation, even with a small wave lenght like this.
I have photos of my navy days, with almost flat sea (almost) where the bow of a frigate is all out of the deep.. Still have to make some dripping on the bow and main deck, which can modify the aired situation.
Thanks for your feedback
Skipper
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Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 03:20 PM UTC
Very nice looking scene, thus far, Rui!
I like Mirage Models small subjects, there is much potential with them, for sure!
Thanks for sharing, and please keep us posted with an update(s)
Keep Modeling!
~Gunny
I like Mirage Models small subjects, there is much potential with them, for sure!
Thanks for sharing, and please keep us posted with an update(s)
Keep Modeling!
~Gunny
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Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 04:50 PM UTC
Looks good Skipper.
You really should give up the cigarettes. :-)
You really should give up the cigarettes. :-)
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 07:09 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Looks good Skipper.
You really should give up the cigarettes. :-)
Yes I know Dave - I would have an extra budget just for modeling, right?
Maybe next year....
Thanks for your feedback
To Mark:
Yes, this Mirage boat is good and with a little effort it can be an excellent model (I hope!!!)
Skipper
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 10:27 PM UTC
Hi Rui,
Looks good, I'd agree the bow looks a little high but no doubt you will organise it as you see best, and I too have seen pics where that was the case.
Can you tell us anything else about the history of the boat?
I'll be expecting a 'water article' after this one :-) :-) :-) :-)
Cheers
Al
Looks good, I'd agree the bow looks a little high but no doubt you will organise it as you see best, and I too have seen pics where that was the case.
Can you tell us anything else about the history of the boat?
I'll be expecting a 'water article' after this one :-) :-) :-) :-)
Cheers
Al
Posted: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 11:32 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Rui,
Looks good, I'd agree the bow looks a little high but no doubt you will organise it as you see best, and I too have seen pics where that was the case.
Can you tell us anything else about the history of the boat?
I'll be expecting a 'water article' after this one :-) :-) :-) :-)
Cheers
Al
Ahoy Alan
All I know about this vessel is this:
ORP Kazsub toprdoboat, old german V-108, one of first ship of polish war navy . First ship to have this name (three more have it). Built in 1914, in Stettin german shipyard "Vulcan", it served in german navy as V-108. It has been conceded to Poland in 1919 as a war payment, and it has started service in 1921 year. It has sunk in Gdansk shipyard 20 july 1925, in result unexplained explosion of boiler ( 3 donation (victim) ). There was twin ship ORP Mazur
There were similar polish torpedoboats ORP Krakowiak, ORP Kujawiak, ORP Podhalanin, ORP ?l?zak.
(This was taken from a online Polish ->English translator so....)
I had this model and the dedicated PE Set in the stash and it was her time to serve as a experiment in making a "dinamic water" dio and also a new way of rigging small scale ships.
So far, and as I said before, the water is not finished, but I already like the looks of it.
As for the Water Article - I guess it can be done
This was the motivation for what I am trying to do:
Thanks for you feedback,
Skipper
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Posted: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 03:59 PM UTC
hey Rui, the more I look at that cover art the more I like the boat, I sincerely hope you will be painting such a fantastic rusty hull this way :-)
Seriously, do you know about one book or monografie or anything dealing with this kind of german WW1 torpedoboats ?
JB
my version!
Seriously, do you know about one book or monografie or anything dealing with this kind of german WW1 torpedoboats ?
JB
my version!
Posted: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:24 PM UTC
:-) :-) :-)
Excellent Jean-Baptiste - But I am going to stick with my project
Sorry - no knowledge about any reference books of this vessels - but I am sure there will be something out there....
Skipper
Excellent Jean-Baptiste - But I am going to stick with my project
Sorry - no knowledge about any reference books of this vessels - but I am sure there will be something out there....
Skipper
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Posted: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:43 PM UTC
Hi Rui
I like it with the bow out of the water like that it adds drama and action to the scene.
Just my two cents worth.
Regards
Sean
I like it with the bow out of the water like that it adds drama and action to the scene.
Just my two cents worth.
Regards
Sean
Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 02:59 AM UTC
This is going to be awesome to see go together. Bravo to you for being able to do water like that.
Kenny
Kenny
Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 05:53 AM UTC
Let's hope so, Kenny - let's hope so!
Thanks for your support
Updates as soon as possible
Skipper
Thanks for your support
Updates as soon as possible
Skipper
Posted: Monday, January 15, 2007 - 06:29 AM UTC
A little update:
Ship painted, more parts glued (PE included), base almost finished (need to repaint one edge of the water), some weathering done - still a lot to do!
At a steady pace, of course!
Feedback welcome, as usual!
Skipper
Ship painted, more parts glued (PE included), base almost finished (need to repaint one edge of the water), some weathering done - still a lot to do!
At a steady pace, of course!
Feedback welcome, as usual!
Skipper
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2007 - 03:32 PM UTC
Looks Great (as usual! ) Skip!!
This is a really cool little scene, and a very interesting subject, IMHO. . .your water effect is premium, mate, how about a little "water effect SBS", eh?
This is a really cool little scene, and a very interesting subject, IMHO. . .your water effect is premium, mate, how about a little "water effect SBS", eh?
Posted: Monday, January 15, 2007 - 08:50 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Looks Great (as usual! ) Skip!!
This is a really cool little scene, and a very interesting subject, IMHO. . .your water effect is premium, mate, how about a little "water effect SBS", eh?
Thanks Mark
The feature will be made after this try... as I told Kenny
I didn't take any pictures of the water building process - I was fast and furious at the time
But I can make another fully documented - model is on the line already!
Skipper
Posted: Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:29 PM UTC
Very nice build so far Skip. Keep up the good work.
Kenny
Kenny
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Posted: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 12:29 AM UTC
hey come on Rui, where is the side pics here? what i want to see is the way it jumps in the sea Do you have some PE things for the sailors not to fall in the sea to add on each sides of the hull?
Posted: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 12:36 AM UTC
Hi Jean-Bernard
Side pics tomorrow
Yes it will have raillings and 4 plastic figurines (1/350, but they could be tall guys!!)
I will try to include the second figurine on the side pic
Actually there's already one there - at the helm
Skipper
Side pics tomorrow
Yes it will have raillings and 4 plastic figurines (1/350, but they could be tall guys!!)
I will try to include the second figurine on the side pic
Actually there's already one there - at the helm
Skipper
Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 12:48 AM UTC
hi all
As requested - some dramatic photos of the dio (I hope!!!!!!)
Also noticed that the Main Compass housing (near the dingy) is tilted to port - so have to repair it!
The sea is not Flat
Notice the Port Wing lookout
Size comparison (for smokers)
Things To Do:
- PE Ladders
- PE Railling
- PE anchor and winch
- Flag poles (no it's not a joke to polish guys)
- About four / five plastic parts
- Rigging
- Flags
- Hull weathering
- Attaching model to base
- Making the portholes with Clearfix
- Finish the sea (repair the port edge), more white foam and blend the ship with it
- Varnish the base and attach PE name plate et voilá!!!
Also have created a dedicated folder in my Gallery ORP Kaszub, because I don't want this post to be overloaded with more images (I took 22 today, so....)
As I have asked before to all members, please feel free to criticise/comment - that's the way we go further
Thanks,
Skipper
As requested - some dramatic photos of the dio (I hope!!!!!!)
Also noticed that the Main Compass housing (near the dingy) is tilted to port - so have to repair it!
The sea is not Flat
Notice the Port Wing lookout
Size comparison (for smokers)
Things To Do:
- PE Ladders
- PE Railling
- PE anchor and winch
- Flag poles (no it's not a joke to polish guys)
- About four / five plastic parts
- Rigging
- Flags
- Hull weathering
- Attaching model to base
- Making the portholes with Clearfix
- Finish the sea (repair the port edge), more white foam and blend the ship with it
- Varnish the base and attach PE name plate et voilá!!!
Also have created a dedicated folder in my Gallery ORP Kaszub, because I don't want this post to be overloaded with more images (I took 22 today, so....)
As I have asked before to all members, please feel free to criticise/comment - that's the way we go further
Thanks,
Skipper
jba
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 01:11 AM UTC
Well that's a VERY neat little dio you created there -it's sure small - i like your wooden base too. The first pic is a really dramatic shot! the weathering on the wooden deck should really add a lot (it is a bit yellow like that).
About the poles, wouldn't you have replaced the horizontal ones with some wire tubing or stretched plastic, they look really round at each side -otherwise i can't say anything else before you add especially the railing.
About the poles, wouldn't you have replaced the horizontal ones with some wire tubing or stretched plastic, they look really round at each side -otherwise i can't say anything else before you add especially the railing.
Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 11:54 PM UTC
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the weathering on the wooden deck should really add a lot (it is a bit yellow like that).
Actually it's already done - the wooden colour (before the artists oils) looked like a "sick" wood! :-)
I have considered making a second round of artists oils, but on the area I tried it looked very heavy... to my taste
Well, enough talk - let's go to work!
Thanks for your inputs
Skipper