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Bismarck
Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 02:28 AM UTC
has anyone got advice on this task
Harry_at_BFM
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 03:02 AM UTC
Hi Darren,
Here is a great little tutorial on planking.
http://modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/hptintro.php
Hope this helps.
Here is a great little tutorial on planking.
http://modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/hptintro.php
Hope this helps.
Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 03:49 AM UTC
thank you it would appear i have overcome the problem the same way. but it was worth a try to find a more efficient method.
blaster76

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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 07:50 AM UTC
Never ever having built a wooden ship my advice shuld be taken with a large grain of salt, and maybe someone who has done this will either refute me or back me up. I have heard theat when trying to bend wooden strips and make them conform to the bend that a little steam (like from a tea kettle) works. Before I did it with kit pieces, I would try it with leftover pieces or something like that
Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 06:11 PM UTC
yes you can use steam to make wood conform to a certain shape however my problem is not in making it conform but just holding it in place while wood glue sets
jimlolok

Joined: February 20, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 09:23 PM UTC
Not sure if it will be double planked but you could apply a small dot of superglue to hold while the wood glue sets up..If not double planked be careful to not get CE on the outside of the plank..just a tiny dot should be sufficient to hold the plank in place....The kit is still selling well here in Warsaw...I bought the first part just to take a look..It will look amazing when finished..Good luck and stick at it........
I wonder how much the kit will cost when AMATI finally releases it as complete kit like Titanic.
I wonder how much the kit will cost when AMATI finally releases it as complete kit like Titanic.
Posted: Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 04:08 AM UTC
this model is double planked also it means I don’t need to worry about how the planks lie as they go from the top down to the keel, so as long as I follow the instructions everything should work out ok, as this is representing an all metal hull model all my hard work wont be seen either once sanded down and painted. As regards size its all ready in excess of 48 inches long and about 8 inches across the beam, so when finished it should be quite impressive and imposing.
this model can be built as a static model or remote control but I think I will stick with static as I would hate to emulate sink the Bismarck, also I have to say nothing I have had to do to date has put me off building this or dulled my enthusiasm, I can also say that unlike building plastic ships which I find a task rather than a pleasure this is something I look forward to making,
this model can be built as a static model or remote control but I think I will stick with static as I would hate to emulate sink the Bismarck, also I have to say nothing I have had to do to date has put me off building this or dulled my enthusiasm, I can also say that unlike building plastic ships which I find a task rather than a pleasure this is something I look forward to making,
Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 06:24 PM UTC
I apologize for taking so long to get these pictures up but losing the lead to attach the camera to the PC is a pain. These 3 pictures show the complete skeleton for the hull of the model, I will take some more pictures now that the first skin is on the model once it stops raining in the UK. At the moment its more like the monsoon season than summer. I have included a 1/35th scale figure to help judge scale and having looked at the pictures I will use a green or black figure next time. Lastly sorry for the poor quality of the pictures but I am no photographer.






wildspear

Joined: April 03, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 08:35 PM UTC
cmot,
Your build is taking shape, hope to see more pics soon. About how lond is the hull right now?
Your build is taking shape, hope to see more pics soon. About how lond is the hull right now?
Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 04:56 AM UTC
48 inches long and 8 inches at the beam roughly
blaster76

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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 09:11 AM UTC
That is kind of neat looking doing it that way. It sounds like it is pretty easy to do. No cutting and measuring of parts, of course all the planking might take some of the fun out of it for me. Yea and defintly do something about the figure, paint it red or black or something. I think I can see it, but it isn't good enough to give me a size impression
Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 02:04 PM UTC
Looking great Darren.
Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 06:06 PM UTC
I have nearly completed the first of two layers of planking on the model, its a hell of a lot of strips, I will say that nothing I have had to do to date has put me off or dulled my enthusiasm, I am surprised at how heavy its getting already and that’s before the resin bow, stern, and centre prop housing are installed. I have decided this is definitely going to be a static model. I also promise that as soon as I get time I will take some more pictures and perhaps place a tank kit on it to make it easier to judge size.
blaster76

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Posted: Monday, July 02, 2007 - 06:51 AM UTC
can't wait to see full hull done. So, they give you resin pieces for the bow and stern. That will make fora bit of a challenge blending in the resin and wood. A lot of sanding. I would definity primer this well as the difference in medium will affect paint color.
Posted: Friday, July 06, 2007 - 04:42 AM UTC
Next instalment for your viewing pleasure
I also hope this makes it easier to judge scale as I have included a 1/35th scale panther and the pictures should be of a better quality that the last submission.






I also hope this makes it easier to judge scale as I have included a 1/35th scale panther and the pictures should be of a better quality that the last submission.





wildspear

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Posted: Friday, July 06, 2007 - 05:20 AM UTC
Darren,
Thats really starting to shape up. Looking real good.
Thats really starting to shape up. Looking real good.
Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 03:29 AM UTC
I have been quiet for quite a while but I have been plodding along with the build, the second layer of planking is going on and the deck is temporarally in place. Also some of the superstructure is taking shape and all in all the project is progressing at a comfortable pace. I will put some more pictures up soon.
Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 09:57 AM UTC
Super work Darren.
Posted: Monday, June 23, 2008 - 05:48 AM UTC
I am sorry it has been so long but I finally got my act together and took some more pictures of the progress. The secondary hull is now in place with a little touching up still to do. A lot of what I am now working on is PE which seems to cover the whole bloody ship (I hate PE, and if I didn’t I will after this).
Posted: Monday, June 23, 2008 - 08:18 AM UTC
Wow! That's awesome progress Darren.
Gator
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 01:20 PM UTC
Hello,
here is link for a nice bulit 1/200 Bismarck from Hachette:
http://bismarck.oehm.net/
On left side are different stages: 1st body, 2nd superstructure, 3rd body 2, 4th superstructur 2.
The stages are discribed in context with with the several dumps. The text is in german but the images speeks for themselves.
best regrads!
here is link for a nice bulit 1/200 Bismarck from Hachette:
http://bismarck.oehm.net/
On left side are different stages: 1st body, 2nd superstructure, 3rd body 2, 4th superstructur 2.
The stages are discribed in context with with the several dumps. The text is in german but the images speeks for themselves.
best regrads!
whittman181

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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 04:17 PM UTC
Wow Darren , I've got to say that is some incredible work and I'm very impressed
I look forward to seeing this one finished. Good luck
Bob
I look forward to seeing this one finished. Good luck
Bob
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