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U-boot XXI esc 1/72
DanielMoscatelli
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 03:27 AM UTC
Ja ajaj Thank you Friend Marck!!! Another Australian cowboy !!! Jeej Am employed at the endowment of on board.....

Regards Daniel
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 02:58 AM UTC
Hello boys, some touches mas of weathering on the conning tower........ I believe that the end approaches!!











On flight of the shipyard!! Jajajaja



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Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013 - 07:58 PM UTC
Daniel,
what is happening here



Don't do this while building my friend
cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:57 AM UTC
That good analysis!! Jjjajajaja Really it is the only way of diluting Mig products ..... jajjajja. I assume the glass its Jack Daniels but the flask is "turpentine" ...this scrapes the throat jejejej

Good the dwarfs remained finished and in his working places.









Gremlin56
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:10 AM UTC
Sorry Daniel,
couldn't resist that one. Mig would probably drink 43 liqueur.
The build is fantastic and the crewman look great
cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:29 AM UTC
So do you like a wee dram every so often Daniel? I am a scotch man as well.. Nothing better after a long day of model building.
:)

By the way, looks awesome mate! You are far in advance of anything I could do, even if I did have accurate plans!!
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:43 AM UTC
I have a healthy respect for Aguardiente after spending 3 months on station in Leixoes in North Portugal on a salvage tug. That stuff will knock an elephant flat on its back after half a bottle , ( I must modestly state that for us Dutch tug men it took nearly a bottle, well, lets be honest, two bottles. This stuff is really deadly Warren, you can strip paint with it )
cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013 - 10:03 AM UTC
Do not worry Julian that it is with humor and in addition it is true jajajajaj. I laughed very much moment jajajja.

Yes I admit it!!! " Nothing better after to long day of model building "

The "Agua ardiente" here knows itself like " Grapa " and makes smile at a lion jejejeje Julian is a current drink in the port!! The water of the River Plate becomes very cold in winter jejejejeje

Warren beside the paintbrushes clean if you bring fire over takes as alcohol!!!!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 11:44 PM UTC
Superb work Daniel bur be careful. After a long stint with a Drink at the Bench, I accidently ran some White Wine through my Airbrush. Glad I wasn't thirsty at the time.......Cheers mark
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 12:34 AM UTC
Looks good with some crew in it - it gives a sense of scale.

I have more than once cleaned my brushes in a glass of fine single malt - luckily i only use waterbased paints ... and the effect on the taste is minimal ...
DanielMoscatelli
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 04:53 AM UTC
Thank you friends I see that they all are some understood with the topic liquor!!! Jajajaj drink because of it!!!

Jan ... if the figures give vision on a large scale ....... and in this one extracting the snub that appears the size meets better.





The near ones go of suit and tie jajaj
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 06:20 AM UTC
I will enjoy your build of a German S-boot my friend.
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 07:53 AM UTC
That gives a perfect illustration of the scale.

I am going to be using this blog for ideas on how to do a scratchbuilt sub one year soon..
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 08:08 AM UTC
Thank you Warren and it makes me happy that my humble work is an inspiration for your sub projet.!! Here I will be to help yourself in what could

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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 08:26 AM UTC
Jejeje Julian already I see that these better.

The S-100 is a project that initiates 2 years ago . I had the mad idea of turning her into RC ......... after a few tests into the water understood that I have to continue investigating jejejej





Some day will finish it!!!! ... 2018? Jajaj
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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 03:10 AM UTC
Some final touches..... Planes rebatibles, railings, antennas etc etc



Finished the base of wood, only the glass cover is absent



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Posted: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 07:21 AM UTC
A little too weathered for me Daniel, but an awesome job none the less. You are a very creative person being able to scrathbuild a full submarine.
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:01 AM UTC
Sorry Warren, have to disagree on this one. The weathering is rather restrained for a low maintenance, badgered build period U-boat. I think if you check the available reference material on this type of U-boat that Daniel got it 100% right. I agree that some builds are weathered to death but this certainly is not one of them.
Just my 2 cents though, opinions are like a******s, everybody has one,
cheers mate,
Julian
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:46 AM UTC

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Sorry Warren, have to disagree on this one. The weathering is rather restrained for a low maintenance, badgered build period U-boat. I think if you check the available reference material on this type of U-boat that Daniel got it 100% right. I agree that some builds are weathered to death but this certainly is not one of them.
Just my 2 cents though, opinions are like a******s, everybody has one,
cheers mate,
Julian



I am going off the one in Daniel's reference photo at the start. I know it is a restored one but the originals had to be like that for a while before they went into service. And you are right about opinions..

Cheers Julian
Warren
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 03:59 PM UTC
Friends Warren and Julian .........First thanks and second thank too ... jjejejej
If there are 2 different opinions about my work it wants to say that I generate slightly positive .This makes me happy

I like to apply wear to my models, I represent royal and operative things therefore secondhand jejej ... I do not come to the ends of the friend MIG but I like though always this in limit. It is easy to exceed .I believe that important is that one itself likes it. And if to the others also, it is perfect. Opinions there are thousands!!

Warren .... The U-boot of WWII me pasion . I integrate some that another forum on the topic, and it does aprox 5 years that I come joining books, photos etc etc and I continue being a simple manager of bilges jejeje
We are accustomed to seeing the launches of many U - boot with big ceremonies ...... but they were in the good times .When everything was fulfilling a structured propaganda . To discount the abundance of raw materials, and the impunity to work to opened sky Many repairs of previous tipe were done in dry dock but of the XXI I dont have any photo!!! The question is .... Why ?

The response is so simple and of common sense since obvious ......... is not time to assemble the new boats in the shipyards less they could stop to maintenances..... Breaks of maintenance or minor hurts were repaired, but things record it was an almost death sentence for this unit
In these times there was no fuel, there is no almost ammunition for few ships of surface and the food was not abounding ......... I want to imagine that there would no be many gallons of available painting.In my country not this in war with nobody and them ship of the navy if you see them closely they are a species of colage of gray but distantly look brilliant. The correct thing is paint it in dry shipyard but its not is usualy .......... I do not believe that under the alloyed bombardment it was thought about the aspect of his U - boot. In end...... is my humble opinion and as such surely this evil but remembers that my wolf would have 8 months of training exactly in these rough moments of the WWII

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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:37 PM UTC
Please don't think I was criticising your work. It is your model and you can paint and weather it however you want.

Cheers mate
Warren
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 11:11 PM UTC
My two cents worth, the amount of weathering would depend on several factors, length of service, time at sea, and available maintenance. A Type VII would be more heavily weathered than a Type XXI, or Type XXIII. Having to spend more time at sea on patrol, and having less time for maintenance. Neither of the late-war types spent much time on patrol. Look at some of the early-war British Corvettes, they're pretty war-weary, and badly in need of a coat of paint. 'Round the clock bombing by Allied air forces also took its toll of maintenance facilities. High U-boat loss rates would mean less time in a yard for a proper coat of paint. I think Daniel got it right, but it's just my opinion. Al
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 01:06 AM UTC

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Please don't think I was criticising your work. It is your model and you can paint and weather it however you want.

Cheers mate
Warren



Calm .No worry friend Warren I do not take it as a critique!! I like that there are different opinions to generate rightly this where we learn all!!!

Daniel
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 02:14 AM UTC
Taffy Thanks to for your contribution!! If Im of acurdo. Remember Donitz's idea ... 1/3 .... one in combat, other one in port and other one in maintenance .... it could never fulfill it!!!!
In end the topic wears and oxides are the whole topic where they influence many things .... so small things up to with that light extracts a photo jejejej
The better thing is to use photos of references but it is necessary to have the used eye B&W smooths the things!!
Some photos ....... this one is 2518 in dry shipyard in English hands. Look at his condition!!



I do not remember this one but that is in France .......



But let's go out of the WWII ...... this one is the "Wilhem Bauer" ex-2540 ..... it is the u-boot initially of the post. Restored to Similar possible to original condition. "absent a lot of work "

Good here we it have in dry prompt shipyard for maintenance after 6 months of service " not in war " its the 80



Photo similar to the previous ones of WWII's ends!!!!!
But in colors that they think??



And this one is my Wilhem 1/144....



Regards Daniel
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 - 02:58 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Sorry Warren, have to disagree on this one. The weathering is rather restrained for a low maintenance, badgered build period U-boat. I think if you check the available reference material on this type of U-boat that Daniel got it 100% right. I agree that some builds are weathered to death but this certainly is not one of them.
Just my 2 cents though, opinions are like a******s, everybody has one,
cheers mate,
Julian



Uuupppsss Julian !!! between so many thing I forget myself. Thank you for your 2 cents.!!! Jejeje But for the near one that they are 10 dolars??

Regards Daniel