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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 07:18 PM UTC
I certainly don't consider it to be a side show Warren, your PE always tends to turn out better than mine
The Dawn Grocery Store XXIII has arrived in excellent time and condition. Mrs. Gremlin56 was not amused when the model inside turned out to be twice as long as the box, clever packing trick by the way, helps you smuggle things into the house......................................................................
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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 10:20 PM UTC
Rudder #3 added:






Needs a few nuts and bolts added but looks ok to me
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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 10:33 PM UTC

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Friend Warren!! I understood that you was of vacations until Friday!! I must accompany Warren's reasoning!! For that not to enlarge the size and I list ??
Daniel


It is Friday here Daniel.

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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 02:55 AM UTC
Hello friends!!! Not where to start commenting!! Pardon if I forget to be grateful for someone but the quantity of post they do me to get lost.
Welcome Warren!! I see that you returned with the batteries re loaded!!
Already I see that today to the night Julian sleeps out with the dog!! Jajajja I you warned that this XXIII was very big!!!
Julian does not worry you not will the only one!!!! Yesterday buy an AAA gun 88mm with trailer in 1/18

Thankfully one comes the spring heat!!! This one snub to sleep out

The work of the third helm is quite a work of engineering!! Good job!!
But I follow with the impression that the Vospers are an improvisation to go out of the step, and to have something with which to answer. This helm is not worthy of the Royal Navy!!!

That nobody takes offence with my appraisals!! Please

For my side I will continue sharing photos of works already realized on the ingenierķas of the RC which end up by lighting fire!!! Jajaj Meanwhile I continue with the works in room of control and grumbling with the PE!!!

Regards for all!!!!!! And thanks for the comments!!
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 03:15 AM UTC
Has anyone out there got any definitive colour information for the wheelhouse of the Vosper?
One of the pictures in the Italeri handbook shows the helm to have a woodgrain finish on the bench the instrument binnacle is mounted on, yet Italeri's instructions tell me to paint everything medium grey. Was the picture taken in wartime or after the war on a restored one, maybe even for civilian use?
I am not sure which way to go.
Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 04:39 AM UTC

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Has anyone out there got any definitive colour information for the wheelhouse of the Vosper?
One of the pictures in the Italeri handbook shows the helm to have a woodgrain finish on the bench the instrument binnacle is mounted on, yet Italeri's instructions tell me to paint everything medium grey. Was the picture taken in wartime or after the war on a restored one, maybe even for civilian use?
I am not sure which way to go.
Cheers
Warren


In the Lambert/Brown/Ross shipcraft book it appears that the flying bridge is all grey paint but the photos taken inside the wheelhouse show a lot of woodgrain instrument panels. Mind you there aren't too many photos to go on but this is way I will be building the 234.
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 04:50 AM UTC
Hi Daniel, the third rudder on the 234 was definately retro fit. Al Ross confirmed that so the scratch built version I cobbled up does justice to what is probably a quick and dirty field mod. It is certainly not a Shipshape and Bristol fashion RN build
I didn't have to sleep with the dog luckily, ( avoided that by taking Mrs. Gremlin56 out for a nice meal ).
You are probably in more trouble bringing home a 1/18th 88 AAA, ( you say with trailer and I think you mean the transport wheels under the 88 and not the prime mover. If you bought a 1/18th prime mover then your wife will kill you and bury you in the garden ).
I see you appreciate the softish Eduard PE It is nicely detailed but you can't bend it too often or it falls apart.
The Griffon PE so far is nice to work with but the thickness is rather unpredictable Enjoying the build so far though, nice change of pace after a Big B overdose.
I am afraid I can't give any advice on the RC part of your build. Warren seems to be more at home there.
Cheers
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 06:38 AM UTC
Already we will see that your wife says when you should stick both halves of the XXIII.....

88mm in question it is this...



Not if I buy 7 ton track FaMo .. I re satisfy but my wife puts it in the head!! Jajaja

PS: Dont worry I cannot help with the RC either ...
Daniel
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 06:45 AM UTC
Gorgeous 88 ! Where did you find that? I have a Dragon 1/35 88 with crew in winter gear I still have to build, but this thing comes from a parallel universe, (make mental note: must not buy another 88 even if it is big...................)
must resist, must resist,must resist

P.s. Where she will stick the XXIII halves is what has me extremely worried................
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 07:00 AM UTC
: But I am very bad .... jajjajajjajajj

http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=TP61701

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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 07:13 AM UTC
That is a very reasonable price Daniel. Maybe your wife will let you live
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 08:09 AM UTC
I thought this blog was for Channel Adversary MTBs, not Anti-aircraft guns..
Could we get back to the topic now or are you two going off on a tangent here?
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 08:26 AM UTC
Uppsss you have reason!!! The problem is that we do not have advances and have to put something here!!

Thankfully divine we have Warren the way to mark ourselves

Daniel Happy weekend for all !!!!!!
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 10:13 AM UTC

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Uppsss you have reason!!! The problem is that we do not have advances and have to put something here!!

Thankfully divine we have Warren the way to mark ourselves

Daniel Happy weekend for all !!!!!!


Fraternising with the enemy.. That is punishable by firing squad I think Mr Sallows.
Here is my progress this morning on the wheelhouse.



The 'wires' going to the instruments is in fact 0.5mm brass wire. The instructions call it copper but copper would have tarnished...
Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 12:13 PM UTC
Nicely done so far Warren. And I WANT one of those 88's.....Cheers mark
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 12:21 PM UTC

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Nicely done so far Warren. And I WANT one of those 88's.....Cheers mark


Are you attending the QMHE next weekend Mr Partis?
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 01:19 PM UTC
Warren,
How did the CF-100 make out?

Cheers Rob.
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 02:56 PM UTC


Anybody know what those two little valve wheels were for? And what went on the two hooks right below them? Inquiring minds want to know. Al
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 05:01 PM UTC

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I thought this blog was for Channel Adversary MTBs, not Anti-aircraft guns..
Could we get back to the topic now or are you two going off on a tangent here?


He's rather grumpy Daniel, must have some sand from surfer's paradise still going itchy, scratchy in the parts that must not be mentioned
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 05:28 PM UTC

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Anybody know what those two little valve wheels were for? And what went on the two hooks right below them? Inquiring minds want to know. Al


They show up in the Lambert/Brown/Ross book but without a clue to what they might be. I remember similar taps on the tugs and suppliers I sailed on that operated a fresh water spray system to clear salt spray from the bridge windows. Could be that simple Al,maybe someone else has a beter idea.
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 05:31 PM UTC

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Uppsss you have reason!!! The problem is that we do not have advances and have to put something here!!

Thankfully divine we have Warren the way to mark ourselves

Daniel Happy weekend for all !!!!!!


Fraternising with the enemy.. That is punishable by firing squad I think Mr Sallows.
Here is my progress this morning on the wheelhouse.



The 'wires' going to the instruments is in fact 0.5mm brass wire. The instructions call it copper but copper would have tarnished...
Cheers
Warren


Nice progress, a big improvement to the basic model.
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 07:53 PM UTC
Hi Warren,

Think I may have found your answer



Certainly looks like wood on main console, side shelves and boxes in foreground.

This was scanned from Allied Coastal Forces WWII by John Lambert & Al Ross

Hope it helps

Regards Kev

PS The label above centre instrument reads MTB 73
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 08:10 PM UTC
Right I'm a positive mine of information this morning

For those wishing to super detail

The boxes to the right of the wheel are for binoculars.

The long box to the left of the wheel is for charts - no metric (coloured) charts please

For Al the two small valve wheels are for the steering gear, called Lockheed valves.

The two hooks are a telescope rest !

All the above from Allied Coastal Forces, an invaluable reference book. Volume two covering Vosper MTB, and the Elco boats. Volume one covers the Fairmile range, 72' Habour Defence Launch and 110' US Sub Chasers.

Cheers Kev
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 08:26 PM UTC

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Warren,
How did the CF-100 make out?

Cheers Rob.


Hi Rob

It took a short flight yesterday but came out unscathed!
Will get painted very soon and it will be finished.

Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013 - 08:40 PM UTC

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Hi Warren,

Think I may have found your answer



Certainly looks like wood on main console, side shelves and boxes in foreground.

This was scanned from Allied Coastal Forces WWII by John Lambert & Al Ross

Hope it helps

Regards Kev

PS The label above centre instrument reads MTB 73


Hi Kev.

I found that photo too and have tried ny hand at some wood-grain. I tried the same technique I use with WW1 aircraft, but I am a bit out of practice. First up I spray Tamiya XF-59 on all the wooden areas...


Once that is dry I use powdered pigments to get some gain going, but don't want to overdo it. Bit hard to see..


Then I overspray with clear orange..



Then I started to add a dark wash to tone the colour down..


I will keep adding dark washes until I am happy with the colour. Must remember you won't see any of this except through the windows when it is finished. If I am not totally happy with it I can just paint it all grey as the instructions suggest.
I am sure that if the wood got all scratched up by binoculars etc they would just paint it grey.
Cheers all
Warren

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