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Trumpeter 1/200th Scale HMS Nelson
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 01:45 AM UTC


Here we go then, this to be the log of my intent to build this rather large and very nice looking kit.
I dont know what the accuracies are like with this kit but I suspect that the armchair experts will attest to Trumpeter having messed up something somewhere...
I'm not too bothered if it does turn out to be mildly inaccurate, I just felt the need to build a big battleship and this one sort of "dropped into my lap" just at the right moment.
So far I am successfully fighting the urge to rush out and buy the beautiful aftermarket goodies set, (which at £215 is almost as much as the kit itself!).
No, for all intents and purposes this will be an "out of the box" build.
Having said that, I have noticed that there are several sheets of etched brass included in the box that will keep me frustrated- I mean happily busy for quite a while.
Tomorrow's instalment will be a potted history of the Nelson and a look inside the very large box.

Costs so far:
Kit £229.00
Book £13.99
Paint £62.00

Cheers,
Pete.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBzcgtkhM9Q

British Pathe Films:
Video of HMS Nelson
Video of HMS Nelson
Video of HMS Nelson
Video of HMS Nelson
Video of HMS Nelson
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 01:48 AM UTC
Another £22 on paint today....

Here is a quick and dirty potted history lesson re: HMS Nelson (1927):

HMS Nelson (pennant number 28) was one of two Nelson-class battleships built for the Royal Navy between the two World Wars. She was named in honour of Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson the victor at the Battle of Trafalgar. The Nelsons were unique in British battleship construction, being the only ships to carry a main armament of 16-inch (406 mm) guns, and the only ones to carry all the main armament forward of the superstructure. These were a result of the limitations of the Washington Naval Treaty. Commissioned in 1930, Nelson served extensively in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, and Indian oceans during World War II. She was decommissioned soon after the end of the war and scrapped in 1949.

She was nicknamed "Nels-ol" from her outline which resembled RN oilers.

HMS Nelson (as was her sister, Rodney) was essentially a cut-down version of the G3 battlecruiser cancelled under the constraints of the 1922 Washington Naval Treaty. The design was to carry a main armament of 16 in (410 mm) guns to match the firepower of the American Colorado and Japanese Nagato classes in a ship displacing no more than 35,000 tons. The main battery was mounted in three turrets, all placed forward, and speed was reduced and maximum armour was limited to vital areas, to meet the tonnage limit.

The three turrets from forward to aft were "A", "B" and "X". The guns received individual nicknames being known as Happy, Grumpy, Sneezy, Dopey, Sleepy, Bashful, Doc, Mickey and Minnie, sometime after the release of the film Snow White in 1937.The secondary armament was in turrets P1 to P3 on the port, S1 to S3 on the starboard. The six 4.7 in (119 mm) anti-aircraft mounts were designated HA1 to HA6, the even numbers on the port. The six pom-pom mounts were numbered from M1 (on top of B turret) to M7 at the extreme aft—there was no M2 position—the odd numbers 3 & 5 to the starboard with 4 & 6 to port to be consistent with the HA armament labels.

Nelson was laid down in December 1922 and built at Newcastle by Armstrong-Whitworth. Launched in September 1925, she was commissioned in August 1927 and joined by her sister ship HMS Rodney (built by Cammell Laird) in November. She cost £7,504,000 to build and made partial use of the material prepared for the cancelled Admiral-class battlecruisers HMS Anson and Howe, planned sister ships of HMS Hood.

She was the flagship of the Home Fleet from launch. In 1931 the crews of both Nelson and Rodney took part in the Invergordon Mutiny. On 12 January 1934 she ran aground on Hamilton's Shoal, just outside Portsmouth, as she was about to embark with the Home Fleet to the West Indies.

Nelson was modified little during the 1930s and was with the Home Fleet when war broke out in September 1939. On 25 and 26 September she performed escort duty during the salvage and rescue operations of the submarine HMS Spearfish. Nelson was first deployed in the North Sea in October against a German formation of cruisers and destroyers, all of which easily evaded her. On 30 October she was unsuccessfully attacked by U-56 under the command of captain Wilhelm Zahn near the Orkney Islands being hit by three torpedoes, none of which exploded. Later she was again shown up for pace in the futile pursuit of German battlecruisers. In December 1939 she struck a magnetic mine (laid by U-31) at the entrance to Loch Ewe on the Scottish coast and was laid up in Portsmouth for repairs until August 1940.

Upon return to service she went to Rosyth in case of invasion[3] and was then deployed in the English Channel. From April to June 1941 she was on convoy escort in the Atlantic. In late May she was in Freetown and was ordered to Gibraltar to stand by to take part in the chase of the German battleship Bismarck.

In June 1941 Nelson, then in Gibraltar, was assigned to Force H operating in the Mediterranean as an escort. On 27 September 1941 she was extensively damaged by a Regia Aeronautica torpedo strike and was under repair in Britain until May 1942. She returned to Force H as the flagship in August 1942, performing escort duties for supply convoys running to Malta. She supported Operation Torch around Algeria in November 1942, the invasion of Sicily in July 1943 and the Salerno operation (by coastal bombardment) in September 1943. The Italian long armistice was signed between General Dwight Eisenhower and Marshal Pietro Badoglio aboard the Nelson on 29 September.

The Nelson returned to England in November 1943 for a refit, including extensive additions to her anti-aircraft defences. Returning to action she supported the Normandy landings but hit two sea mines on 18 June 1944 and was sent to the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Pennsylvania for her repairs. She returned to Britain in January 1945 and was then deployed to the Indian Ocean, arriving in Colombo in July. She was used around the Malayan Peninsula for three months. The Japanese forces there formally surrendered aboard her at George Town, Penang, on 2 September 1945.

Nelson returned home in November 1945 as the flagship of the Home Fleet until reassigned as a training ship in July 1946.
Decommissioning and disposal

Nelson was decommissioned in February 1948 and used as a target ship for aerial bombing exercises for several months. She was sold to Thomas W. Ward Ltd for scrapping, arriving at Inverkeithing on 15 March 1949.

Cheers,
Pete.
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 01:52 AM UTC
So well now,It's only three months until Christmas!
I have now got "Nellie's" hull painted in the correct colours of G45 and B20 (according to several sources).
I have also managed to get a large dose of clear-coat on there too, in readyness for a bit of weathering.
I have also put together the three main gun assemblies for something to do other than literally watching paint dry!
The superstructure is just placed on the deck to get some idea of the size of this awesome beastie.
For fun, I scaled down a Royal Navy sailer group shot and placed it on deck to give an impression of the immensity of the 16" gun turrets.
Thanks for looking in.
Cheers,
Pete.





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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 01:53 AM UTC
Armament:
9 X 16" main guns in three triple mounts.
12 X 6" in six double mounts.
6 X 4.7" in single mounts.
4 X Quad mounted Bofors.
6 X octuplet mounted pom-poms.
64 X 20mm single Oerlikon mounts (not shown).
2 X 24" torpedo tubes (not shown).

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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 01:54 AM UTC
So, we know that HMS "Nelson" was an odd looking battleship from the word go, mainly because all three of the triple 16" gun turrets where mounted in front of the tower in an effort to save on gross tonnage.
Here are some snaps of the "A", "B" & "X" turrets, (in order from fore to aft), as was their official labels.
They are built mainly OOB except for a little bit of scratchbuilding in the form of the safety/deflector railings around the 20mm guns on top of "X" turret.
There is still some fannying about to be done on these turrets as yet by way of more paint and some liferafts to be slung where appropriate.

"A" turret:



"B" turret:




"X" turret:





Thanks for looking.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 01:57 AM UTC
Here are a few snaps of the mainmast:
There is still a little left to do on this section before I can call it finished, such as searchlights, 20mm guns e.t.c.
I don't think that I would like to climb that flimsy looking ladder up to the crow's nest...









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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 01:58 AM UTC
Here ars a few shots of the funnel assembly.
The top grill and grill mounting plate are of etched brass and are very fiddley indeed!
The drilled holes are for the guy-line cleats, (of home made from fine brass wire).
All the etched brass pieces are a bit of a pain to handle and are easily damaged!
Enjoyable but either my fingers are getting bigger or the parts are getting smaller...
The build has moved on quite a bit from when these pictures where taken.
Thanks for looking in.
Cheers,
Pete.





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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 02:00 AM UTC
Here is a couple of shots of the funnel now painted but not washed...
I quite like the look of the spotlight but unfortunately it doesn't show up too well in these pictures.
Please forgive all the dust in the shots, she needs a good clean...
Thanks for looking.
Cheers,
Pete.



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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 02:01 AM UTC
Some pictures taken before painting of the completed conning tower.
This is how HMS Nelson appeared in 1945.
There had been a lot of changes over the years since 1927.
As you can see, there is quite a lot of etched brass in use here, (all OOB).
Some aerials are only just over the width of a cat's whisker and are very fragile!
I have drilled out all of the portholes as I thimk it looks better this way.
Plastic assembly = 1 hour - Etch assembly = 12 hours...
Cheers and thanks for looking,
Pete.











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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 02:03 AM UTC
Every once in a while a kit comes along that totally blows the cobwebs from your tired old model making routine.
Usually I buy a kit because I have, for one reason or another, been inspired by the real article.
I get the kit home and start with all the usual good intentions. After a while the not quite so good fitting parts and joint lines begin to nag, the paint job did not turn out as good as I'd hoped and the whole thing turns into a war of attrition between myself and the kit.
It does get finished, it is completed, it is displayed on the shelf and I do like it, but never to my total satisfaction.
This is the usual way of things in my world until...
To get back to the opening line of this post, what are these mythical kits?
Well in my case I can name two where I have absolutely had fun and ENJOYED the build.
The first one to spring to mind was the Hobby Boss 1/35th American tank transporter HET 1070 & M1000, a very cool and intricate model of a very cool bit of modern military kit.
The second, well the second is the kit I am currently building, the Trumpeter 1/200th HMS Nelson.
Take Friday for example, the sun was shining, the cats where sleeping, the computer was playing some good music and I had all day to do some modelling:
Perhaps it is in the joy of learning something new: I always research my models and I am currently reading the full history of HMS Nelson, which tells of personal stories as well of technical details, perhaps it's in the grade of polystyrene that the kit has been moulded in. The Nelson's polystyrene is just sublime, not too soft and not too hard or brittle and capable of some high definition detail, perhaps it's in the well thought out mould designs that put sprue joints in places that are unseen when constructed and with as few ejector pin marks as is practical.
Some of you will know that I bought this kit as a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to some unfavourable news about my health and that I must have thrown well over £400 on it including books e.t.c. Well my investment is paying me back in spades so far and I do not regret a single penny spent on it!
It was weird however how I was just getting into being "interested" in battleships when I stumbled into this kit at my local model shop, maybe it was meant to be or some devine intervention. Whatever it was it has kept me from feeling sorry for myself, has allowed my creative juices to flow again....
Of course I am speaking from a point only about half way through the complete build and something could come along and divert my attention away from this build but for now I can honestly say that I am ENJOYING this particular hobby very much indeed.
The future:
Well, I have been eyeing up the Trumpeter 1/200th USS IOWA, which is a fair bit bigger than Nelson!
But I don't know whether the polysyrene used or the mould designs where as up to date as the Nelson.
Apparently Trumpeter has both HMS King George V and HMS Hood in the pipeline.
King George V isn't as big as USS IOWA (and I know this is silly) I don't model things that where destroyed in battle, so that puts HMS Hood out of the frame because she was the only one of her class that was built, the other three where cancelled to save costs and so use the materials elswhere in the navy's war efforts.
Or perhaps I should just take the old Corvette down from the shelf of shame and finish her off...
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 02:31 AM UTC
Hi Pete

great work so far! Thank you for sharing!

Good to hear you're thoroughly enjoying this build... Looking forward to seeing you take her through to completion....

Russ
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 02:49 AM UTC
Thanks Russ,
I spent 9 hours on her today and it still doesn't look like I've done anything!
Cheers,
Pete.
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks Russ,
I spent 9 hours on her today and it still doesn't look like I've done anything!
Cheers,
Pete.



I know that feeling, Pete.
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM UTC
WOW !!! Very nice indeed. I am impressed that is is box stock too. I will hope they come through as promised with the 350 scale
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 04:50 PM UTC
Here are a couple of shots of my main reference books for now.
It is very good as far as it goes.
I would prefer to see far more on the design/detail of the real ship than is actually afforded by this book. A lot of pages are given over to some other modellers efforts from various manufactures and differing in scales.
There is quite an in-depth reveiw of the current and past kits that are available for HMS Nelson but obviously the Trumpeter kit, although noted, is left out of the discussion as it was not released when the book was published.
There are quite a few photographs, most of which are freely available on the internet without too much of a search. probably the most useful part of the book is the very small section regarding the various camouflage schemes that Nelson wore throughout her career but I have noticed some minor discrepancies even here.
Still and all, a handy tome to have about the place if you can find one at not too an extortionate price, (I paid about £20 delivered for mine).

I am also reading the "History of HMS Rodney", (sister ship to Nelson) via a purchase on "Kindle", which gives a very vivid account of life aboard leading up to and during the second world war.
(I am also parallel reading "HMS Ulyses", so I am full of "atmosphere" and "inspiration")!

I have now received and are rapidly consuming "BATTLESHIP NELSON the story of HMS Nelson" by Ronald Careless. (ISBN 0-85368-726-9) Which is a blow by blow account of her war experiences coupled with some enlightening personal stories. There are a few B/W photos in the centre of the book, a few of them not seen before by me.

Thanks for looking.
Cheers,
Pete.





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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 05:06 PM UTC
Here a couple of pictures from the aforementioned Corvette buld!
Cheers,
Pete.




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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 10:53 PM UTC
Very nice, Pete!!

Excellent job, your PE work and the rigging look great!
- for an OOB, there is really quite a lot of stuff in that box...great build, looking forward to see you NELSON grow!!

Cheers,

Jan
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Posted: Friday, October 02, 2015 - 04:43 AM UTC
I think that it would have been cheaper to buy the wooden decks.
For some unknown reason I chose to paint the wood part of the decking first...
Tamiya's masking tape profits will be up this month!
Cheers,
Pete.



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Posted: Friday, October 02, 2015 - 05:48 AM UTC
Pete,

I'm really enjoying watching this beautiful monster come together. It's great to see one of these huge, marvelous kits actually being BUILT!

You are doing a bang-up job on the assembly; keep the pics coming!

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Posted: Friday, October 02, 2015 - 06:30 AM UTC
Fantastic work Pete! A real treat to follow along with this! The painstaking labor of masking will certainly pay off in the end!!
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2015 - 12:21 PM UTC
That is some stunning work. Loving it.....Cheers Mark
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2015 - 04:32 PM UTC
Blimey, thanks for all the positive comments guys.
I really and honestly only rate my work as so-so when measured against the beautiful work that I've seen on here....
Cheers,
Pete.
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Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2015 - 10:16 AM UTC
This coming along superbly Pete and for an OOB build I impressed with Trumpeters kit.
The painted deck looks pretty impressive so far.

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2015 - 04:29 PM UTC
Good choice to paint the wood deck first, Pete. Much easier to mask
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Posted: Monday, October 05, 2015 - 01:43 AM UTC
Looking great Pete,

Following with interest.

Cheers.

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