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nice touch with the spurling pipe Si
Thanks Russ,
It always looks odd to me when anchor cable just ends on deck, and to be fair it was a simple fix, don't get too many of those.
Cheers
Si
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RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 12:28 AM UTC
Thanks Russ,
It always looks odd to me when anchor cable just ends on deck, and to be fair it was a simple fix, don't get too many of those.
Cheers
Si
JJ1973
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Posted: Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 01:15 AM UTC
Hi Si,
the very solid and professional progress one is used from the Heathwood's shipyard
very nice work indeed. Absolutely concur with the anchor chains, they must not end somewhere on deck...
Cheers,
Jan
the very solid and professional progress one is used from the Heathwood's shipyard
very nice work indeed. Absolutely concur with the anchor chains, they must not end somewhere on deck...Cheers,
Jan
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 01:57 AM UTC
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Hi Si,
the very solid and professional progress one is used from the Heathwood's shipyard
Cheers,
Jan
Hi Jan,
Thanks for looking in mate, it is a bit of a schoolboy error, particularly as the rest of the kit is so good.
Cheers
Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 03:01 AM UTC
Today's progress.
The production line for the remaining quad 13.2mm.
ready for the etch.
and with the etch fitted, tricky to fold the seats and sights, but got there.
One of the things I like about this kit is that some jobs can be done on the sprue, the twin mounts.
and the anchor.
all the twin AA mounts ready for paint.
The etched breakwater around the fwd turret and its spots on the fret.
The supports on.
The breakwater being bent to shape.
More soon
Si
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The production line for the remaining quad 13.2mm.
ready for the etch.
and with the etch fitted, tricky to fold the seats and sights, but got there.
One of the things I like about this kit is that some jobs can be done on the sprue, the twin mounts.
and the anchor.
all the twin AA mounts ready for paint.
The etched breakwater around the fwd turret and its spots on the fret.
The supports on.
The breakwater being bent to shape.
More soon
Si
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RussellE
#306
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 02:50 AM UTC
The etch really brings the 13.2's to life!
And that is one funky looking break water! Ah the French!
And that is one funky looking break water! Ah the French!
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 02:52 AM UTC
Today's progress.
Paint on the main and secondary armament.
And the light AA.
Secondary armament fitted.
Details in front B barbette, and the breakwater in from of A barbette fitted.
Main armament fitted.
Quick overview.
AA, a couple of boats, cranes, railings, rigging and a few other details to go.
Cheers
Si
Paint on the main and secondary armament.
And the light AA.
Secondary armament fitted.
Details in front B barbette, and the breakwater in from of A barbette fitted.
Main armament fitted.
Quick overview.
AA, a couple of boats, cranes, railings, rigging and a few other details to go.
Cheers
Si
RussellE
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 02:25 PM UTC
Hehe, you must have posted just as I did Si.
Looking good to see some colour on!
Looking good to see some colour on!
Longshanks8
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 11:45 PM UTC
Beautiful crisp modelling
Kev
Kev
RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 12:07 AM UTC
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Hehe, you must have posted just as I did Si.
Looking good to see some colour on!
Looks like I did Russ,
Might have said this before but it is nice to have light AA that doesn't have me reaching for aftermarket.
It is good to get the spraying done, thought you would appreciate that mate.
will be glad to have all the light AA ton too, before I loose or break any of it.
Cheers
Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 12:08 AM UTC
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Beautiful crisp modelling
Kev
Thanks Kev,
aided, I must say, by a great kit.
Cheers
Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 03:12 AM UTC
Today's progress.
Getting some sub assemblies in place, firstly the light AA.
Boat cranes.
Last of the boats, except for the davited pair of seaboats amidships.
And the aircraft crane.
First of the Artworx railings fitted, and the ladder down on the maindeck.
more artworx railings, with kit ladder.
The artworx railings have gaps for the accommodation ladders, I won't be fitting these, as they have a nasty habit of suffering in transit to shows.
These gaps will be fitted with short lengths of copper wire to represent chains that would close such openings when the ladders were not fitted.
more soon,
Cheers
Si
Getting some sub assemblies in place, firstly the light AA.
Boat cranes.
Last of the boats, except for the davited pair of seaboats amidships.
And the aircraft crane.
First of the Artworx railings fitted, and the ladder down on the maindeck.
more artworx railings, with kit ladder.
The artworx railings have gaps for the accommodation ladders, I won't be fitting these, as they have a nasty habit of suffering in transit to shows.
These gaps will be fitted with short lengths of copper wire to represent chains that would close such openings when the ladders were not fitted.
more soon,
Cheers
Si
RussellE
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Posted: Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 04:18 AM UTC
Thundering along here, Si!
RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, February 26, 2018 - 12:33 AM UTC
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Thundering along here, Si!
Thanks Russ,
Close to commissioning, railings to finish, Anchors a few minor details, including the aircraft, then the rigging, and she's done.
Cheers
Si
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, February 26, 2018 - 01:43 PM UTC
I didn't realise that Artwox had provided all the missing railings as well as the deck. I wish I had known that at the time. I think it is the one failing in this kit, the missing main deck railings. The cost of adding them to the box would have been negligible for what is otherwise a very nice kit. You doing a fine job with the build, it looks great.
cheers
Michael
cheers
Michael
JJ1973
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Posted: Monday, February 26, 2018 - 09:38 PM UTC
Great work here, too, Si, and good to seeing you so close to commissioning!
Following your builds helps me getting back some inspiration and motivation - as with Repulse some three years ago, after moving I realize that I am struggling to seriously get back on my track with my Hood...
Looking really good, mate!
Cheers,
Jan
Following your builds helps me getting back some inspiration and motivation - as with Repulse some three years ago, after moving I realize that I am struggling to seriously get back on my track with my Hood...
Looking really good, mate!
Cheers,
Jan
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 02:08 PM UTC
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I didn't realise that Artwox had provided all the missing railings as well as the deck. I wish I had known that at the time. I think it is the one failing in this kit, the missing main deck railings. The cost of adding them to the box would have been negligible for what is otherwise a very nice kit. You doing a fine job with the build, it looks great.
cheers
Michael
Hi Michael,
I didn't either, till I bought the deck at Telford, very good move on their part.
Agree it was a bit short sighted not putting them in the kit. I note that policy seems to have changed, the USS Alaska and the 1/200 Mikasa both have a full set of railings.
Cheers
Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 02:17 PM UTC
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Great work here, too, Si, and good to seeing you so close to commissioning!
Following your builds helps me getting back some inspiration and motivation - as with Repulse some three years ago, after moving I realize that I am struggling to seriously get back on my track with my Hood...
Looking really good, mate!
Cheers,
Jan
Thanks Jan,
Glad to be of assistance, this build has helped me after the thirteen month slog on the Bismarck, and with the Warspite turning into a bit of a beast, it would have been easy to loose inspiration
It is nice to be able to build a battleship in this scale that will sit comfortably alongside the rest of the fleet, almost straight from the box, and just concentrate on the basics.
Cheers for looking mate, always glad to have your input.
Si
ChurchSTSV
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 09:51 PM UTC
Top notch work, Si. Your work is an inspiration. I hope to be at your level some day.
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 10:08 PM UTC
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Top notch work, Si. Your work is an inspiration. I hope to be at your level some day.
You are very kind Charlie,
You will be, just practice mate.
Cheers
Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 02:09 AM UTC
Today's progress
Railings and rigging.
The bow railings have a gap for the platforms, however the raised section on the fo'c's'le where the platforms fit mean it is easier gut the gap out.
The stern railings have a top piece, which I must admit I thought was going to be a real problem, I have never come across this set up in etched set before.
I bent the railings to fit the flat plates, then fitted them, it actually worked very well, the railings seemed to ant to fit into the grove in the plates, then dropped neatly into place.
The stream anchor is also in place, The anchors are really well moulded, I don't normally put photos of the anchors into my build logs but these are worth it.
Nerdy old seaman that I am.
Rigging started, this will not be every single line, apart from not having a full rigging plan of the ship, liked Russ's job on the Prinz so much I would see if I could make it work too.
first signal halyards on.
The bridge tower mostly done.
More rigging and railings, and final details to go.
More tomorrow, with a bit of luck.
Cheers
Si
Railings and rigging.
The bow railings have a gap for the platforms, however the raised section on the fo'c's'le where the platforms fit mean it is easier gut the gap out.
The stern railings have a top piece, which I must admit I thought was going to be a real problem, I have never come across this set up in etched set before.
I bent the railings to fit the flat plates, then fitted them, it actually worked very well, the railings seemed to ant to fit into the grove in the plates, then dropped neatly into place.
The stream anchor is also in place, The anchors are really well moulded, I don't normally put photos of the anchors into my build logs but these are worth it.
Nerdy old seaman that I am.
Rigging started, this will not be every single line, apart from not having a full rigging plan of the ship, liked Russ's job on the Prinz so much I would see if I could make it work too.
first signal halyards on.
The bridge tower mostly done.
More rigging and railings, and final details to go.
More tomorrow, with a bit of luck.
Cheers
Si
JJ1973
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 11:38 PM UTC
Si,
again a very nice job done! That is a vey nice touch to the aft railings, I'd assume this upper part is resembling a wooden top of the railing? Looks really nice!
And rigging - it's copper time again! Again, very good job here!
Cheers,
Jan
again a very nice job done! That is a vey nice touch to the aft railings, I'd assume this upper part is resembling a wooden top of the railing? Looks really nice!
And rigging - it's copper time again! Again, very good job here!
Cheers,
Jan
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 11:49 PM UTC
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Si,
again a very nice job done! That is a vey nice touch to the aft railings, I'd assume this upper part is resembling a wooden top of the railing? Looks really nice!
And rigging - it's copper time again! Again, very good job here!
Cheers,
Jan
Thanks Jan,
Yes the upper part of the railing did make think of the heavy wooden upper rail found on cruise ships and the like. As Dunkirque was built between the wars, likely she was less utilitarian.
Copper time, and done, will post that update later or tomorrow.
Cheers
si
RussellE
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 01:46 AM UTC
Wow, Si! Those Frenchies continue to amaze me. That top rail on the aft rigging makes me think, that perhaps the French were less quirky than I thought, and more somehow stuck in the past and/or saw their ships more as 'retreat' for the "toffs" from the realities they faced on the continent... Cruise ship anyone? 
Very nice work in assembling it too, I might ad!
Those anchors look mighty nice! Some of the best I've seen in a kit!
And onto the rigging already! Yes, I have come to the conclusion that trying to get every line in there as per the real thing is: a) almost impossible due to the lack of references; b) makes little to no difference to the overall effect and; c) no-one can tell anyway (seriously, who's gonna sit there and count the lines? )
So, looking very good, Sir and nearly time for commissioning!
Very nice work in assembling it too, I might ad!
Those anchors look mighty nice! Some of the best I've seen in a kit!
And onto the rigging already! Yes, I have come to the conclusion that trying to get every line in there as per the real thing is: a) almost impossible due to the lack of references; b) makes little to no difference to the overall effect and; c) no-one can tell anyway (seriously, who's gonna sit there and count the lines?
)So, looking very good, Sir and nearly time for commissioning!
RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 12:30 AM UTC
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Wow, Si! Those Frenchies continue to amaze me. That top rail on the aft rigging makes me think, that perhaps the French were less quirky than I thought, and more somehow stuck in the past and/or saw their ships more as 'retreat' for the "toffs" from the realities they faced on the continent... Cruise ship anyone?
Very nice work in assembling it too, I might ad!
Those anchors look mighty nice! Some of the best I've seen in a kit!
And onto the rigging already! Yes, I have come to the conclusion that trying to get every line in there as per the real thing is: a) almost impossible due to the lack of references; b) makes little to no difference to the overall effect and; c) no-one can tell anyway (seriously, who's gonna sit there and count the lines?
So, looking very good, Sir and nearly time for commissioning!
Thanks Russ,
She was laid down in 1932, so coming out of the depression, maybe make her look more than she was, and their first new battleships after the Washington treaty building holiday.
I haven't done much research into the French Navy between the wars, but I wouldn't be surprised if it suffered some of what the RN suffered, in that career officers took back the reigns and a lot of what was learned in combat was forgotten and spit and polish became more important than combat efficiency.
Got the rigging done yesterday, will post an update of that shortly, agree it is impossible to replicate everything, and even if the rigging plans are available it ends up looking way to crowded and messy.
Cheers
Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 02:32 AM UTC
Right, the rigging, I will admit I cannot vouch 100% for the accuracy, this is just the best interpretation of the photos & drawings I found on the web.
Firstly the last section of railing, around the searchlight platform.
One thing that might be missing is the gaff on the mast on the after tower, prominent in some photos and not rigged in others, I have added it, the tricolour will look right flying from it.
insulators, and connections for aerials around the bridge tower.
Some photos seem to show multiple aerial runs, I am not sure exactly what they were, I have taken a simple interpretation.
One ready to go on.
Both in place.
All the aerials in place and the connections in place, also the insulators, the insulators on the main aerials are darker, not sure if this right for a French battleship, but what I remember from the older ships I sailed on in my seagoing days.
The seaplane for the cat, a Loire 130, one of my pet hates, for which I won't apologies, I do not like this habit of moulding these little beasts in clear plastic.
Built, had it not being a too cold to spray, I would have misted the sprue light grey first.
and painted.
and mounted on the catapult.
Finally an overview.
A few final additions, and it will be time to hoist the colours.
Cheers
Si
Firstly the last section of railing, around the searchlight platform.
One thing that might be missing is the gaff on the mast on the after tower, prominent in some photos and not rigged in others, I have added it, the tricolour will look right flying from it.
insulators, and connections for aerials around the bridge tower.
Some photos seem to show multiple aerial runs, I am not sure exactly what they were, I have taken a simple interpretation.
One ready to go on.
Both in place.
All the aerials in place and the connections in place, also the insulators, the insulators on the main aerials are darker, not sure if this right for a French battleship, but what I remember from the older ships I sailed on in my seagoing days.
The seaplane for the cat, a Loire 130, one of my pet hates, for which I won't apologies, I do not like this habit of moulding these little beasts in clear plastic.
Built, had it not being a too cold to spray, I would have misted the sprue light grey first.
and painted.
and mounted on the catapult.
Finally an overview.
A few final additions, and it will be time to hoist the colours.
Cheers
Si
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