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Cutty Sark wooden model ship
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Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 06:36 PM UTC
Thanks Rui and Fanai, sorry for my late response, I've not had much change to get behind the computer, less to upload pictures..Work's taking it out of me a bit at the moment, being ' in charge' ( well, allegedly.... )
of the night shift 6 nights a week is taking it's toll a bit, nothing that won't pass, but added to the rest of life's twists and turns, right now I find it hard to get myself motivated beyond work and looking after our 10 month old daugther ( during the day). Suppose that's why I took to the boot again. Just sanding bits of wood to that ' just right' smooth finish is quite relaxing, and there is no hurry with these. Anyway, away with the violins and back to the model in hand.. :-)


I've started the painting of the various bits and pieces. I'm using a 'Teak' varnish for the wood, as it gives a nice color and is translucent, leaving the printed detail to show true. I will use the fact that each layer of varnish darkens, to add some shadow to the otherwise smooth cabinwalls. I could off course add some detail with some balsa strip, and may still do so before I finish, but I don't want to bite of more than I can finish right now. Besides after the rigging is completed you won't really see that much of the cabins.. I am now working on the last hull plank on either side. I have to cut and sand them to fit in the last space, which is not to bad. It will al be sanded very smooth anyway ( I hope.. ) as the top part of the hull is actually made of iron..



This shows the idea of using multiple layers of varnish to add a bit of depth. I will darken the door considerably, and add the portholes and door handle afterwards. On the aft cabin I have already made the holes for the porthole frames, as they where printed in the correct place but there are no positions printed on the mid cabin, so a bit of research is needed again.



There is another oddity I ran into... The model has an entrance to the aft Cabin at the front, as can be seen in this picture.



This is in keeping with the plans that are reproduced and supplied with the kit. On the photo's of the Cutty Sark in London drydock which I have however, the entrance is at the rear... . I will fire a list of querries to the Cutty Sark society soon to try to find out if these where later refits ( well, obviouslly they are, but during or after her working life.) or if something is wrong with the Billing Boats research. I mean there is the question of the front deck which has some big differences with the ship in London.

Later..
Henk
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Posted: Monday, September 12, 2005 - 12:00 AM UTC
Been a while since I updated on the progress ( nothing to do with any alleged lack of progress, honest.. )...

I finished the hull planking, al thats left to do is sanding it and probably adding small amounts of wood filler to get the hull ship completely smooth.
The cabins and Foremast are dryfitted, again to check fit as none of the deckfittings will be added untill the hull is finished and painted.



Detail of the spar mouting to the Foremast. This one ( the 'main fore sail' will have a small chain from the top of the spar to the mast, whilst the spars above will have this chain going through the mast and down, as part of the rigging which allows the spars to be lowered to facilitate the rmoval/change of sails.
all metal fittings are brass, but will be painted over..



detail of the railing along the edge of the aft cabin, lots of detailing still to do here. I will scratch build a frame with bars to go over the skylight.



I'm hoping to make some progress this week, asa I'm in the office every night.. .

Oh, Skipper, could you move this thread to the 'Oars and Wind' DG if possible, as I suppose that's where it's home is.. . Thanks

Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Monday, September 12, 2005 - 01:54 AM UTC
Hi Henk!

I would move it, if I could
You need to ask to any of these Members:
Eagle, GunTruck, Kencelot, matt (the moderators of the General Modeling Forum)

She's looking great - keep up

Skipper

EDIT: As you can see it's taken care of! Thanks Matt
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Posted: Monday, September 12, 2005 - 05:39 AM UTC
Henk she looks real good so far and i really like the look of the cutty shark those clipper ships were so sleek and fast looking, how big will the finished kit be and will this one have the lower hull covered in copper plates i know some did.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 01:55 AM UTC
Hi RV,

She'll be about 4' long and just under 2' high when fully rigged, but the rigging is still some time of. Your Brigantine looks good, what woods are you using? I really like the look of the different woods, a pity that it will al be painted. I have that with brass, it looks very nice, but then it has to be painted white... . And with a ship like the Cutty Sark there's not really the 'artistic lisence' excuse.. .

And thank you Matt for changing the DG.

Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 06:06 AM UTC
The main hull is either bass or ballsa i replaced the for and aft deck plywood with bass wood sheets so they would better match the decking of the main hull they won't be painted just clear coated maybe a light stain, the gun whales or 2 small strips on the side of the ship are mahagony as are the trim around the hatch doors will also be clear coated no paint, the 2 paltforms on each side of the hull that hold the dead eyes are also mahagony and will also be clear coated. The area arount the gun ports is ply wood that will be painted black, inbetween the 2 small strips will be dark red and the lower hull will be in white. I think the masts and spars are pine and they will be stained and clearcoated. Both capstands will just get a clear coat, i believe a clear coat tends to darken wood just a shade. Thats a big ship you have a lot more work than mine.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:29 AM UTC
I'm glad you are going for clear finishes on most of your model RV, I think it'll look very nice. When I finish this I'll be looking for another wood ship, possibly a Viking longboat , and finish it au naturel. And as for the Cutty Sark, yes she had copper plates on the lower hull, but I don't think I'll be adding those, not individually anyway.

I made some more progress last night. I added the Top Gallant Rail on the starboard side, and did some more varnishing. Tommorow I'll paint the inside of the railings, and will try to finish the deck planking.When that's done I can start to add all the various deck fittings ( such as the winches and belaying pin rails etc) and the cabins.

View of the Gallant rail (no the left) and position of the cabins. The cabins will receive more varnish to try and give them a better 3-D effect.





Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 02:16 AM UTC
Henk that looks really good with some varnish on it, for the lower hull you could try some copper tape this way you wouldn't have to install separte panels and the tape should be flexible and easy to use, i read that some guys use a pounch wheel on the copper tape to add the rivets looks very nice, just a thought. Next for me i need to make the spars and stain the masts. Next on deck i have purchsed a kit by OcCre Spanish Galleon 27"1/2 this kit is amazing the plans are great the instructions are so easy to follow, this will not be started till the Brig is finished.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 12:10 AM UTC
Ahoy ye scurvy dogs,

Been a while, but some progess has been made..
I've been struggeling with the hull a bit, had to apply more woodfiller than I hoped neccessary, and I'm not all that happy with just painting the lower hull red. I tried copper coloured paint, but that looks like goldleaf.. . Red makes it look like a modern battleship.. . So I might well try your idea of copper tape RV..

Started adding the deck fittings, bollards, davids etc.
The cabins are now in place, and have the portholes added. Still not decided on the colour for the deck, a lack of good references for the original colours is not helping matters.
The mast is only dryfitted, they won't go up untill the hull is finished and launched. I will off course do the hull launch right here 'on-line'.



The toilets still need to be finished aswel...




Sadly, she'll have to back on top of the wardrobe, as I'll be working on my plastic projects now for Telford.
More news as soon as I continue....

Cheers
Henk

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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 12:56 AM UTC
Looking good so far Henk.....
Can't wait to see this finished......
Just don't rush it, taking a break from a major project every now and then insures better craftsmanship.

You also have great looking floors..... I wish my hardwood floors looked that good.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 01:10 AM UTC
Thanks Dave, it will be a while before this will be finished, but it's a great break from plastic glue..


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You also have great looking floors..... I wish my hardwood floors looked that good.



It's all clever weathering Dave.. :-) It's not really wood, it's linoleum which is better in the kitchen. We do have the old wooden floors on the first floor ( or what youse would call the second floor? :-) ) which I hope to sand and varnish one day. There's a lot of work to do here, the house was built in 1848, but constant 'renovations' have really made a mess of the original lay-out and features.. the only thing that's really still original are the wooden sash windows, which can't be replaced because the house is part listed and in a 'conservation area'. But I'm planning on replacing as much of the old, Victorian features. Another long term project...

Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 02:33 AM UTC
Hi Henk

Hmm a steady pace never hurted a model before :-)
She's comming out great and she can wait for your Telford entries to be finished
Old ladies never loose the pose

Keep up
Skipper
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 03:58 AM UTC

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It's all clever weathering Dave.. It's not really wood, it's linoleum which is better in the kitchen



Thank God, I found out before I fired the cleaning lady again........ :-) :-)
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 05:19 PM UTC
She's really looking nice Henk.

The height of that mast! You plan on having a seperate room devoted to her? Man she's big! I really do look forward to seeing it finished. I am impressed.
Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:51 PM UTC
Hi Steven,

The mainmast is going to be a bit higher even than the foremast... . I'm not sure yet but I'm thinking of hanging her in the stairwell, due to the way our kitchen lay-out works, there's a perfect space at the top of our stairs.


Hope the picture makes sense.

Either that or I might offer it on loan to a local 'museum', where it will at least be looked at, and in a proper display case.

Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 04:50 AM UTC
She's looking real good so far Henk, i like the brass fittings gives it an extra touch of class, can't wait to see some rigging on this kit that should take a while as the Cutty Sark has a massive amount of rigging lines.
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 06:52 PM UTC

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Hi Steven,

The mainmast is going to be a bit higher even than the foremast... . I'm not sure yet but I'm thinking of hanging her in the stairwell, due to the way our kitchen lay-out works, there's a perfect space at the top of our stairs.


Hope the picture makes sense.

Either that or I might offer it on loan to a local 'museum', where it will at least be looked at, and in a proper display case.

Cheers
Henk



Yes! A Stairwell like that would be prefect for a ship that size. Great idea! Stairwells are often over looked for a display like that, but man what better spot can look at it from above, at eye level , and below????

We had display cases hanging in the museum on all the stairwells. Gives you just that much more display area in an already cramped gallery....yep I like it!
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 02:30 AM UTC
Hi,
I’m trying to make an accurate 3d model of the Cutty Sark. So I’ve been scouring the internet looking for plans of the ship, and comparing them to photos of the real ship before the fire. Your plans are the first I’ve seen that are accurate. Can you please scan them for me, or tell me where I can download them.
Thank you ,
Olga
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