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mpalao

Joined: June 19, 2005
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Posted: Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 09:19 PM UTC
Hi! the U-99 Revell is my first model. But.....the kit have not the antennes cables, and the hull have not the holes. I like to reproduce the exact cables and holes of the u-bot type VII, but I dont know; Can you help me? Thanks.

95bravo

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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 04:28 AM UTC
Hi Miguel,
If you have the 1/125th scale kit of the U-99, you can cut out the limber holes with an X-acto knife and a pen vise. The plastic inside of the holes is thin enough that you can accomplish this without thinning the back of the holes with a Dremel bit. The cables are a the easiest to replicate. You can do this with stretched sprue. Just cut a section of sprue from the tree your parts came from and hold and rotate over a candle flame. When the plastic becomes almost liquid soft, pull the two ends away from each other to create the cable. The thickness of the cable is dependent upon how fast you pull the ends apart and the softness of the plastic.
In addition: if you chose to open the limber holes, you will need to have several X-acto blades, it will take a toll on them.
Hope this will be of some help.
Steve 
 
If you have the 1/125th scale kit of the U-99, you can cut out the limber holes with an X-acto knife and a pen vise. The plastic inside of the holes is thin enough that you can accomplish this without thinning the back of the holes with a Dremel bit. The cables are a the easiest to replicate. You can do this with stretched sprue. Just cut a section of sprue from the tree your parts came from and hold and rotate over a candle flame. When the plastic becomes almost liquid soft, pull the two ends away from each other to create the cable. The thickness of the cable is dependent upon how fast you pull the ends apart and the softness of the plastic.
In addition: if you chose to open the limber holes, you will need to have several X-acto blades, it will take a toll on them.
Hope this will be of some help.
Steve
 
 
mpalao

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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2005 - 03:50 AM UTC
Thank you very much. 
I'm thinking to make the antennes by cable, but I see the u-boat scale 1:72, and for me it is impossible to reproduce these cables.
Is it possible?
Thanks
I'm thinking to make the antennes by cable, but I see the u-boat scale 1:72, and for me it is impossible to reproduce these cables.
Is it possible?
Thanks
Posted: Monday, June 20, 2005 - 04:18 AM UTC
Holla Miguel!
Bienvenido a Armorama!
Yes it is possible to reproduce the cables and wires!
As Steve (95Bravo) so well pointed out to you, it's just a question of you practice a little with streched sprue... 
 
If you follow this "recipe" it will work
If you'll take a look at "Dive! Dive! Dive!" Campaign gallery there are a couple of 1/125 Revell U-boats
If you'll need any help, just ask!
Skipper
Bienvenido a Armorama!
Yes it is possible to reproduce the cables and wires!
As Steve (95Bravo) so well pointed out to you, it's just a question of you practice a little with streched sprue...
 
 If you follow this "recipe" it will work

If you'll take a look at "Dive! Dive! Dive!" Campaign gallery there are a couple of 1/125 Revell U-boats
If you'll need any help, just ask!
Skipper

Probuilder

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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2005 - 05:02 AM UTC
If you are trying for the cable look you might want to find some synthetic kite string,  Not cotton or natural fiber as they tend to have Fuzz on them,  I got some really cheap kite string and foud it lokked just like calbe and all I needed to do was soak it in some black liquid ind and let dry and I had perfect cable!  Just make sure it is in scale to the subject though.

mpalao

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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2005 - 08:47 AM UTC
Thanks , I'm trying to make it as the same to the Revell scale 1:72 u-boat (is including into this kit). It is very difficult because have several joints and fittings.
In my home shopping , I see wires of 0.4 mm diameters. You can see it with this link:
http://hsfeatures.com/features04/u552cw_1.htm
Thanks
In my home shopping , I see wires of 0.4 mm diameters. You can see it with this link:
http://hsfeatures.com/features04/u552cw_1.htm
Thanks

95bravo

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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2005 - 12:49 PM UTC
Miguel,
Another thing you might consider, if you choose not to use wire or stretched sprue, you could use...fishing line. It will more than likely come in the diameter you want..no heating to stretch, just super glue it in place. Plus, if it were to sag...you can tighten it the same way you do with stretched sprue...by blowing out a lighted match and then passing the warm tip under the wire...
just a thought.
Steve
Another thing you might consider, if you choose not to use wire or stretched sprue, you could use...fishing line. It will more than likely come in the diameter you want..no heating to stretch, just super glue it in place. Plus, if it were to sag...you can tighten it the same way you do with stretched sprue...by blowing out a lighted match and then passing the warm tip under the wire...
just a thought.
Steve

mpalao

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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 09:07 AM UTC
Thanks, I suppose it is possuble to use telephone-line cable also. With super-glue I can bonded yo the border without any problem? with the neccesary cable-tension?
Thanks
Thanks
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 11:25 PM UTC
Holla Miguel!
The only problem with wire from telephone cable is that you need to make some tension to it, to make it properly streched and the plastic parts may not be able to hold the pressure...
Did you try to make the streched sprue?
If you wish I can make a few meters of it and send you in a letter
Just send me your address
Skipper
The only problem with wire from telephone cable is that you need to make some tension to it, to make it properly streched and the plastic parts may not be able to hold the pressure...
Did you try to make the streched sprue?
If you wish I can make a few meters of it and send you in a letter

Just send me your address
Skipper

mpalao

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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 08:52 AM UTC
Thank you Rui Matos, I'm agree your propuse. But I suppose it is not necesary. Thnaks. IĄm trying all these methods. Let me try. I'm learning. And Also I need to buy one airbrush. I'm thinking about Aztek 4709, and later I need also the compresor. If you like help me with this propusal also. Thank you very much.
Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 04:53 PM UTC
Just another suggestion for the cables...what about guitar strings?  My son gives me all his when he changes them out on his guitars...one of them has to be in 1:72 scale...just my .02 worth.

mpalao

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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2005 - 08:29 AM UTC
Thnaks, very good, is a good option also. But which is the diameter? i see in the model shopping wires with a small diameter. I donīt know the materials but I look good. Thanks.

mpalao

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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 09:58 AM UTC
I continue with muy proyect type VIIB u-boat
My problem is I donīt have digital camera to take photographs. But I'm trying to take any photos when I will finish the u-boat.
Today I'm working with the deck of the conning tower. I employed one mesh drilled plates of Aber to reproduce the deck. In this moment is OK. Also I modified the size to the acces hole because it is very big and I need to introduce teh UZO also near to the two periscopes.
With 1/72 revell references. I'm trying to reproduce All details in the lower hull with evergreen strips and sheets.
but I'm thinking about to flag design. I see your link, but I have the question about the flag size in this page. The Archer fine transfer Kreigsmarine have scale 1/35, it is probably with this size is good for me. My model is scale 1/125, but I have any details , with this scale (I suppose for tanks).
I need to know what is the size 1/35 for this flag (ref 35007) in mm, in order to know if it is possible ti employ in my model.
Thank for tour answers Skipper.
My problem is I donīt have digital camera to take photographs. But I'm trying to take any photos when I will finish the u-boat.
Today I'm working with the deck of the conning tower. I employed one mesh drilled plates of Aber to reproduce the deck. In this moment is OK. Also I modified the size to the acces hole because it is very big and I need to introduce teh UZO also near to the two periscopes.
With 1/72 revell references. I'm trying to reproduce All details in the lower hull with evergreen strips and sheets.
but I'm thinking about to flag design. I see your link, but I have the question about the flag size in this page. The Archer fine transfer Kreigsmarine have scale 1/35, it is probably with this size is good for me. My model is scale 1/125, but I have any details , with this scale (I suppose for tanks).
I need to know what is the size 1/35 for this flag (ref 35007) in mm, in order to know if it is possible ti employ in my model.
Thank for tour answers Skipper.


blaster76

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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 10:54 AM UTC
I used the very thinnest guitar string on my 72nd scale uboat ad I was not happy with the way it turned out.  The thickness was good, but you can't get the tension you need so it looks saggy on my model.  Use the sprue method.  Practice, practice, practice and in no time you'll be great at it.  I use a candle because when I do it, I usually stretch out a dozen or so.  The ones that I am not using I put a piece of tape on either end and put just a little tension on them to keep them straight and then tape them down the side of a bookcase in the spare room so they don't curl up

mpalao

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Posted: Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 09:55 AM UTC
Thank you Steve, I' trying to use your comments about the sprue method. Thanks. But I donīt know if it is possible to buy transfer paper (in white for example) in order to translate my Kriegsmarine flag maked it  by photoshop (translate by printing) and later only by pressure transfered to aluminium foil ???
Is it possible to buy this paper???
Thanks
Is it possible to buy this paper???
Thanks
Posted: Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:53 PM UTC
Holla Miguel!
I don't know any source for tranfer paper...
But if you are going to print it, I would suggest using regular decalsheet, (give it a coat of white first) print the flag, seal the print, apply the decal to the alluminum foil.
I do not knowe if it is preferable to bend the foil first and then apply the decal, or apply the decal and then bend the flag - depends on the "amount" of bending you intend to do
Hope this helps, Miguel!
Skipper
I don't know any source for tranfer paper...
But if you are going to print it, I would suggest using regular decalsheet, (give it a coat of white first) print the flag, seal the print, apply the decal to the alluminum foil.
I do not knowe if it is preferable to bend the foil first and then apply the decal, or apply the decal and then bend the flag - depends on the "amount" of bending you intend to do
Hope this helps, Miguel!
Skipper

95bravo

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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:06 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Thank you Steve, I' trying to use your comments about the sprue method. Thanks. But I donīt know if it is possible to buy transfer paper (in white for example) in order to translate my Kriegsmarine flag maked it by photoshop (translate by printing) and later only by pressure transfered to aluminium foil ???
Is it possible to buy this paper???
Thanks
Miguel,
Yes, there is white decal paper out there. It's made by "Cutting Edge" I believe. Which is great if you're like me and wish to make decals for aircraft that require white for some nose art....such as eyes. I can't recall the price off hand but I believe it was below 10 US dollars. Or, you can use Skipper's method which may be less expensive or an alternate route if the Cutting Edge paper is not available.
Hope this helped
Steve

mpalao

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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 09:01 AM UTC
Thank you very much for yours answers. Yes I see the decal paper is possible to buy in the shop near to my home. No problem, but the aplication is the same to the normal decals. I see. But I like to search another paper (is the transfer paper). You can to print your design into this paper ( I suppose) and later by pressure to translate into another paper (for example aluminum foil). The method is the similar to this link
http://www.archertransfers.com/FlagInstructions.html
Is possible to find this paperŋ
Skipper says No, but is possible to make this method?
Thanks
http://www.archertransfers.com/FlagInstructions.html
Is possible to find this paperŋ
Skipper says No, but is possible to make this method?
Thanks
Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 06:42 AM UTC
Hey Miguel,
Testors makes a all in one decal kit. I've used it many times and it works great. As far as cable goes, I'm working on the 1/72 scale uboat also and going to use a product called spider wire. It's a braided fishing line that looks just like cable. If you can't get it, send me your address and I'll send you some.
kenny 
 
Testors makes a all in one decal kit. I've used it many times and it works great. As far as cable goes, I'm working on the 1/72 scale uboat also and going to use a product called spider wire. It's a braided fishing line that looks just like cable. If you can't get it, send me your address and I'll send you some.
kenny
 
 
mpalao

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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 07:34 AM UTC
Hi, Subhunter, Ijust received rhis wire in my home, thank you very much for all. It is fantastic. I send you one private message. You help me very much. Thanks. When you need anything, please says me. Thanks
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