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KG V progress
DutchBird
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 12:04 PM UTC
Hi guys,

this is my first big ship, the King George V in late 1943 fit... here are some in progress shots:



This is Y turret. I will drill out the barrels, and clean them up a little further. The 4 barrel pom-pom, stairs and railings still have to be added.



A shot from the bow facing A and B turret. Again, barrels will be drilled, and the pompoms still have to be fitted to B turret.



This is a picture of the stern deck. The holes are the position of the 20mm AA guns. I based the positioning of them using Alan Raven's book about British battleships (which is my main reference). Some additional modications of the deck are still necessary.

More pics are in my gallery. This is all progress so far. All is in subassemblies (no decks fitted, bridge can be taken apart etc. etc). construction is halted for the moment while awaiting the final PoW sprues). I have run into two problems however:

How do I sand down the top of the smoke stacks (to prepare them for fitting the PE "hood" ? Now I shaved the plastic of, but I can not get the botom to look wmooth unfortunately... Actually I am thoinking about using a Dremel.

The second problem has to do with the external degaussing coil. Some references say it was removed in 1942 when the KG V was in dock to repair collision damage (among them Raven). Others say it was removed during the major refit in early 1944. So this leaves a problem. But there is this:

On the bottom of page 303 however is a picture of the KG V dated late 1943. There a line can be seen, at the hight of the degaussing-coil, and it looks really similar. It is clearly seen contniuing towards the stern, and there is a suggestion it carries forward to the bow as well (though seems absent around the anchor). As there is a 1940 pic where the same thing happens, I would conclude that the degaussing coil was there untill the 1944 refit. Can anyone please confirm this?

Looking forward to your comments,

Harm
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 12:45 PM UTC
Howdy Harm,

Your model is lookin great so far. I remember hearing that the degausing cable was there for most of the war. I can't remember my source though. Keep those pic's coming.
Ray
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 06:12 PM UTC
Are you going to use ay PE with this or are you going OOB? I know what a degassing cable is, but where is it on the KGV? Is this something which would require something removed?
DutchBird
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 08:50 PM UTC
Thanks for the compliments guys,

I am going to use a PE-set, the WEM one... boy.. some of their fittings make the Aber sets look easy in comparison.

The degaussing cable is not fitted on the Tamiya offering. It ran from the bow above the anchors to the stern. The coil was just above the extra armor in the center, and continues forward and aft in between the two rows of portholes.

It does not require anything to be required. In fact, I would have to add the one provided by WEM. The KG V was the only ship of the class that had them fitted externally.

ZzZGuy, youl get your Bismarck going again... and hey, it is better to work on it when motivated... less chance to blow it!

Cheers,

Harm
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Posted: Monday, July 04, 2005 - 11:01 PM UTC
Hi Harm!

Yeap! So far your PoW is going great!

The "Funnel Problem": perhaps the Dremmel will be the answer!
About the Degaussing cable: are you sure the Pic is really PoW? I have read on SMML (Ship Modeling Mailling List) that only KGV had a degaussing cable(strange?)

keep up the good work

Skipper
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Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 01:12 AM UTC
Hey there Harm!

I think she's going to be a good looking ship when you're finished. I really like your jig you have her setting on. I should build something like that.

Ifound a couple of web site this morning that may help answer you question, One is of no real use since it deals with the WWI version, but the others have several photos and may prove useful. I'll continue looking.

http://www.pdwilson.co.uk/warships/kinggeorge.htm

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/kinggeorge.htm

The WWI Version
http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/battleship/hms-king-george-v.html

Steve
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Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 03:54 AM UTC
Looks very good so far. What kit, Tamiya 1/350? Have you also thought about doing the blast bags for the big guns?

DutchBird
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Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 11:58 AM UTC
Skipper,

indeed, only the KG V had the degaussing cable (and this is the ship I am building).

Where the confusion with the PoW might come from is the fact that I am trying to backdate the ship to it's 1943 fit. Unfortunately, the Tamiya offering of the KG V is depicting the ship after the major refit of 1944. So I'll need some sprues of the PoW for parts for the backdate. Especially the 20mm AA will be useful ( I need 38, Raven has only found the position for 36 of them). The catapult was essential, as was the boatdeck.

Steve,

the jig is inspired by Michael Taylor, as he used it in his article about building the Bismarck:
http://modelwarships.com/reviews/reviews.html

Between the wood and the ship is a piece of cardboard/foam, to protect it from scratches. I used Michael's technique of fixing the bolts (glue bolts, secure them with popsickle sticks).


Halfyank,

indeed, it is the 1/350 Tamiya offering. I am lucky, there are no blastbags to be done (at least none of the pics show them).

Cheers,

Harm
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