This newest addition by MIG leaves even the most stalwart of landlubbers salivating!

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Rudi, how much is 390 Euros in U.S. dollars.
Cheyenne

It's a wonderfull boat!

Mine is in the mail
and I consider it a very good investment (nice excuse to Mrs Skipper)

Cheyenne it's about US$475 (depending on the daily exchange rate)

Skipper

Looks like a very interesting kit. I don't know anything about MIG but they certainly have a pretty good modeler do their display piece. I'd love to see one of these on a model table at some convention some time.

I can't say I'll have one of these in dock at my house any time soon. $475 is about two thirds of what I paid for my car, and it needs breaks.

Thanks for sharing though.

Review over at PMMS.

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/mig/mig_bk1125.htm


Shaun

Thanks for sharing Shaun.

I'm curious though... I see in Terry's review that it's supposed to be a limited edition release... yet nothing on the MIG site says as such... let's hope they have had great success with the limited editions and have gone full tilt and added the kit to their permenant range.

Rudi

True true

On MIGS website there's not even an hint about this model... But then he probably is too busy and can't update the website as much as needed!

Same thing with YS Masterpieces website - the model that is about to have a in-box review any minute - with their 1/35 Tupolev G-5 Torpedo boat (YS Custom Series).

But both are very good - and the skills of the modeler who built this Bk is a great "weatherer" - I like it a lot!

Skipper

Looks like a great kit, but at that price, I doubt I'll ever see it in my collection

Oooooo, it sure does have a purty mouth.

that review... On the box...

It said Limited Edition Pre-Production!

A very interesting subject. Way out of my price range. I take it this is 35th scale. If it were to say 350 scale at $45 I would add it to my collection. Maybe someday they may make a 72nd scale version out of plastic I would consider as well. Have fun with it Rui.

I guess you have not checked their website today, or you have not refreshed the page in your browser and was watching old cached version. The kit is there, along with some photos of the real thing and historic notes about the boat. http://www.migproductions.com/MP/products/35253/35253.htm




MIG Productions are a company founded by Miguel Jimenez - world reknown modeler. He paints most of the display models himself, including the Bronekater. You can actually buy this model built, painted (in a finish you choose) and weathered by Miguel for only... 2600 Euro...

Pawel

Hi Pawell,
No I haven't checked MIG's website today - but was there yesterday
Thanks for the tip


This I knew -and his first products MIG weathering powders are great


This part I didn't knew - He made a terryble GOOD LOOKING model!

Naaaa :-)
I prefer to save a lot of Euros and build it and weather it myself

Skipper

From earlier posts [ month ago ? ] I was under the impression this beauty went for about 600 bucks.
Now 450, well its something I want and I've seen my kids whine for stuff and get it so I'll work some overtime and drop down on this " must have " beauty.
Think of the possibilities [ sp ] I smell a Stalingrad dio in the wee corner of my empty melon.
Cheyenne

Mine just arrived today and after a quick glance I'm pretty impressed. The kit comes with incredibly nice, finely molded details, and appears to need very little cleanup, especially for a resin kit.

Mine also says limited edition, pre- production on the outside of the box.

The kit is going to wind up being about 26" inches in length by 4" in width. However, it's a complete hull so those looking for a waterline dio are going to need to do a little work. The hull is solid resin across most of the bottom so to get a waterline you will need to cut thru the entire width of the model to remove the lower portion of the hull. However, the prototype has an extremely shallow draft so you are really looking at only about 3/4" from the waterline to the bottom of the hull on the model, which isn't too big of a deal to work around when modeling your water.

The only complaints I have is that all that great molding details took a bit of a beating in transit. So far I have found 6 places where I will have to repair small details. The majority of the damage is to a very thin rail/lip where the deck meets the hull. It's not a big deal but I think given all the little details they could have done a better job on the packaging to try and protect from this happening. (the individual hull sections are wrapped in plastic bubble wrap and placed loose inside the box)

Only other complaint is that all deck hatches are molded in place so it will take quite a bit of work to model those in the open position. However, The hatch on the main gun turret can be modeled in the open position - except there is zero interior detail inside of the turret and only a small molded space to house something is one decides to add interior details.

Beyond that, I'm really liking what I see and I think it's going to make an interesting addition to my dio. Although, as impressive as it is, the things still comes up looking a bit small when paired with my Accurate Armour quayside.

Brett

First all , Brett, my apologies if you has find any broken or damage part in your Bronekater. I must tell you that any part that you has find damaged we will remplace without any cost for you.
Just write us an email explaining us which part you need and your post adress, and we will send you ASAP.

Even if we try to protect each BK box very carefully here in Spain, you must understand that we send large containers to our dealers in all countries, and them, repack it again to send to other shops or modellers, so....I can't control all shipping proces except if anyone buy it directly from Mig productions.

Anyway, I repeat that I will be very happy if I can send you the new parts.
When you pay a price for one of our product is not only for the resin parts and cardboard box, but also for a complete customer service that we MUST give you until you finish your model (even if you have doubts about paint)

In another hand for those that want to add it in a diorama (sorry, I am making also a diorama with a new one in Stalingrad too), I must explain that the Bronekater is a river ship, this means with a very flat hull, and it was sumerged a very small`part of hull.
So, if you wish to make the water, just apply a thick layer of water and will be more than enought to create the effect.
I don't recomend you to cut this small sumerged area because it is really small and to cut that resin part could be a nightmare!

Another soluction:

If you don't want to make a thick layer of water, just thin, put the boat in a wood base, and remove the wood area where you will place the BK. It will save the sumerged area.

This is why we decided to make the complete hull and not a waterline.

About the rest of the feedback and comments about other details....I can't change right now, but I promese you keep in my mind for next ones.
It was our first boat and was extremely difficlut for us, and we must learn many things to improve our next projects.
When we started our BK, I was thinking mainly about my self and my future dioramas or model, but I see than other have different necesities.

A last matter:

In the begining, we prepared only 10 BK like pre-production items. This is why is limited. But the box is blue color. The standard productions serie is white box carboard....but...because my mistake in a hurry, I forget to remove PRE-EDITION in the cover sticker.
Anyway....it stilll limited because we will prodcue only around 60 boats for whole world.

I would like to explain that (why reason)

As many of you know, our main bussines is 1/35 militay accesories or historic bustes. This big boat was for us only like a special whim, something that we wanted very exclusive for lovers of this soviet ship.
Actually, when the plastic companies produce around 10.000 to 20.000 units of the same plastic kit, and everyone can buy it, and when everyone can buy the modeller sometimes lost the interest for it and he keep it in his basament to collect dust.
I thought trhat if we make something in less quantity, the modeller can be motivated that surely he will be one of the few people with this model and could be very atractive in contests or shows for everyone.

Maybe I am worng, but....I would like to know what you guys think about that. I would like listen your opinions.

One more time, thank you very much for all coments, and again....my apologies for the possible small problems.

Sincerily

Miguel Jimenez Mig
Spain.

Holla Miguel!

First of all welcome to Armorama - and to a special part of it, the Warship Area!

I have to congratulate you on your Bronekater! From what I have seen so far it's very very well donne! I hope to have mine shortly (Venancio Lebre ordered mine)

I liked what you have said and your attitude regarding the service that MIG Productions will do to it's customers - this is a very good way of keeping them near you
Unfortunatly that is NOT the way most manufaturers work and perhaps that may explain the disapearing of some.

Advices and hints on the model I will only pronouce myself after getting my hands on it...
But I can say one or two things right away:
1 - Although you have included some fine shots of crew members in your website, why not making a MIG set with the Crew for the Bronekater?
2 - From my own opinion, and from all the "noise" (positive) I think you should keep doing this kind of lesser known vessels!
I know you run a business, but after this model and in a six month period you can make a balance and see if I am right (or I am right!) and make another release!

I know that this is my favorite area (like I said before), but think of big scale vessels and they are all "landmarks" (pardon me the Land) in the modeling history:
- ADV/Azimut S-100 Schnellboot
- Andrea Miniatures Type VII-C U-boot
- Accurate Armours Type VII-C, Type XXIII and the X-Craft
- MIG Productions Bronekater
and the lesser know (yet) YS Masterpieces - Custom Series Tupolev G-5 Torpedo Boat

And these models are Resin, you can look at Trumpeters and Italeri's success with the LCM-3

And I don't think that resin subjects like these, may loose interest once they are produced in plastic - if ever they will be produced!!!

So, this is a market "niche" that I think it sells, so don't stop! Even if it's a weird looking subject


Skipper

EDIT: And I am looking forward to see you Leningrad Dio
And I forgot to mention Verlinden Midget Subs and manned torpedoes!

Dear Miguel,
first of all, good to hear from you again in Armorama. We wish to hear from you more often as the business lets. I agree all companies face some transport problems when they send products to dealers or customers. the important thing is the solve the problem for the customer. Thanks to you and MIG productions for this positive approach.
IMHO; plastic and resin models are quite different and i know it is impossible to produce cheap resin kit in todays technology. I prefer buying resin kits (i mean the good ones because i have met some crap kits of some companies) and i advice all to buy 1 resin instead of 3 plastic kits if it worths the same. Sure some high quality plastic are exceptions. so i say 'keep producing resins in MIG quality'.
best regards

Rui and Engin

Thank you very much!

Well, I must say that we have already the first two naval infantry figures and we are working in more. These two first figures is Black Sea infantry useful for any kind of naval ships (same as in our pictures in our web page) i hope we can release for next OCtober.

I agree with both of you that a ship like this ones is very important for a company (u-boot, G5, etc...) an believe me that I love it.

But for us it is only a special product, we don't win anything, just cover the expenses if we sell all our planed edition. But...now I feel this kind of subjects like a drug, because right now I would like to make another ones..even bigger (even if my partnets kill me for that)
But...I have blueprints for a Soviet Destroyer in 1/35 with 76m/m AA guns....and it is really a monster. But I need time to think about and ...more time to save the enought money to produce it.

A 76m/m AA gun is like the DRAGON 88m/m Flak in 1/35....the Destroyer have 2 of these guns...so...can you imagine the size???

Anyway, the Bronekater is maybe one of the most popular subjects in IIWW and was really important in many battles. A Destroyer is not the same...but could be very "cool".

I am thinking also about 1/72...cheaper and easier, but with a very good detail.

Guys...I have discover this new world for me (soviet ships) and I am in love for it. For me is something fresh and different and I will do my best for this area.

Ahhhh, I have the Tupolev G5, and a friend is helping me with it, because I was very busy right now. Tomorrow I will take pictures of it before paint it. If anyone want to see it , I can post pictures here. I have also some B/W pictures if anyone want make it.

The G5 is really like a starship!!! Just wonderful!!

All the best

MIG

Miguel,please post here whatever you can .i will be happy to see them all from a modeler,friend and company I appreciate a lot.
best regards

Hi MIG!!

Glad you're making the Naval crew members
And YES please, post some pictures of your Tupolev G-5. Mine is still unworked as it can be seen in my gallery

Skipper

Hello Miguel,

It is so nice to have you stop in for a moment and comment on your kits and to adress some of the points that I brought up. As a customer I also appreciate your offer to replace any broken parts. That just reinforces my belief that I made the right purchase.

As for those broken parts I have already begun repairing them. The majority of the damage is to the very thin rail that is molded to the upper edge of the hull sections. It has chipped in several places, however, I think I can handle the repair on my own. But I will be sure to get in touch with you if I have difficulties.

I spent some time tonight assembling the hull and deck sections so I had a chance to look things over quite closely. Exceptionally good detail you have created, my compliments to you sir.

I don't know if you can do anything in the future about opening up the deck hatches, but if not, then perhaps on future kits that is something you can keep in mind. I think it would give the model a bit more character if they could be posed in the open position.

As for future models I certainly hope you do decide to do more kits of this magnitude. Of course, 1/35 WWII boats would be well received by myself as I'm sure others here as well. As for your question about keeping the kit production in low numbers I think that is an excellent idea. That is the reason your kit caught my eye - the unusual subject matter that seemed not to have been modeled before.

So please keep up the great work and I look forward to other offerings from you in the future.

Brett

My Bronekater has arrived

Skipper

Congratulations!

Will you be getting started on it right away or saving it for a later time?

It's a surprisingly fast build and I only have a few interior details left to add on mine. Unfortunately, mine will remain unfinished for a while as the pier is priority one right now.

Brett

Hi Brett

I was checking it yesterday (late night) and yes, it looked like a "fast" built. The cleanning will be very easy, making comparison with other resin models that have crossed my working mat

I also am having mixed feelings: I want to start it right away, but have two models unfinished and I don't want to start a pile of unfinished stuff... May the force be with me :-)

I'll see during this weekend how things will work out - in my mind and in the working space

Have you received my PM?
Four pages?

Skipper