I like those paremeter's, Steve, and the inclusion of wood or mixed media will put a draw to others as well...I also agree on the time frame, but I would also add a possible extension option if necessary...

Not to wander off the subject, but don't you just love the forum headings??? "Fleet Manuevers"...Awesome!!!

Gunny

Here's a little "teaser", new (late last month) releases from Zvezda that will be ideal for this campaign...












~Gunny

I have a question I have an American privateer its a Brigantine from the War of 1812 but it is setup in dry dock without the sales would this be allowed. I f not i have another.

I would say it would. I don't think that it's neccessary that they be modeled under sail. All I think they need to do is fall within the parameters of the periods covered. Meaning it was either powered by sail or oars, or both.
Besides, I'm more impressed by sailing ships that the sails are not (for lack of the correct technical term..."deployed") then you can look at all of that awesome rigging.

And Mark...yes I agree on the possible extensions and yes, I do like the "Fleet Maneuvers"..It is cool.

I would have to agree with Steve on this also, I mean, the ship would fall into the parameters that we've been discussing...and heck, rv. as fast as you can build these ships (I remember you past posts back at the old forum at Armorama ) you could probably build both of the ship models that you're talking about, mate! :-)
~Gunny

OK, this is good...we've got a bit of interest and a discussion going here, mates...so far this is what we have...

1. All eras from Ancient such as a Roman Galley and the like to turn of the 19th-20th centuries where sails were still employed on some vessels.

2.Time Frame- one year, with the possibility of extension if needed for model completion

3. The kits are not limited to wood and can be plastic or mixed media if those type of kits are available and desired to be built by the modeler(s).

Now, next we must decide on when to start a project such as this...now at this time, here at MSW, we have Dreadnoughts!, Flattops!, and DDD 2 running as active campaigns. Dreadnoughts and Flattops both have an ending date of June 30, but I have a sneaky feeling that there is going to be a Flattops extension desired...DDD2 is running until March 25, 07, and Gator's Leyte Gulf Campaign starts October 1st of this year and runs to the 25th of next year...so some care is going to have to be taken in choosing a good time to start this build, so that we can get the maximum amount of participants without causing an increase on the stock dividends of Tylenol and Prilosec OTC...Whaddaya' think. mates?

~Gunny

What? There was an extension to Dreadnoughts?

Ah crap! If I'd known that I wouldn't have boxed the Arizona back up. No matter, even with the June extension, I don't think I could complete it in case I end up moving between now and then which is a distinct possibility.

As far as this group build, if it does not really fall under the same constraints of a campaign, I would say begin it this fall. It would give everyone the summer to work on what they are working on now, plus time for them to look for a kit. I assume since this is a group build that other than the basic ground rules, it's loosely conducted. Correct?

Most definitely, Steve-o, not as stringent as a campaign, my friend....this will be cunducted as FUN, a learning experience for all, and hopefully we can turn on a few modelers to the "old style" of ship modeling...
~Gunny

So there you have it, set the date and weigh anchor.

It would seem that everyone agrees on or at least likes the parameters, now let's see if everyone can agree on what has been outlined for the overall build plan and the rest is history? Agreed?

As always, everything is negotiable and nothing is set in stone.

This could be a blast.

Ok Mates!
Now is the time to table any thoughts that you may have, disagreements, and the like...all that is left (as far as I'm concerned) is to set a date, and as Mr. Arthur has so eloquently put it,




Yessiree, It sure will be, Steve-O!
~Gunny

I drool at the possibilities here. I love rigged ships, but have never had the nerve to try one. Now we have a ready-made excuse for others just like me. Just think of the possible subjects here folks!

Whooohoo!

So many models, so little time!!!

First let me say that I'd LOVE to do this. About 30 + years ago I did the Revell USS Kersarge, fully rigged. Took about a year, and as hard to believe as it is now, I didn't even have the benefit of any magnifying glass. :-) :-) :-) It still sits on the mantle in the family room, all covered in dust!!!! (Believe it or not I actually had to almost totally rebuild the upper works because it got trashed being shipped back from Germany, so I almost did the rigging twice!!)

I STILL have the CSS Alabama AND the Thermopolaye kits in boxes in the basement.

Now for the reality. I'm still slogging away on the Missouri, which I expect to finish in mid-May, and I've signed up to do another LA Class Fast Attack for DDD2.

After THAT there are at least 5-6 1/35th armor kits that I'd love to get to, including several that I KNOW would take more than a few months, including a 2 1/2 ton Mess Truck, and an M-88 with full interior, plus an M54 5 ton conversion.

And since I seem to have a groove going with the ship thing, I'd REALLY like to knock out the 1/350 late war Fletcher class DD with Emergency AA fit as well. It's just sitting there next to the work bench saying, "Build ME next!"


What I need to do is figure out how to clone myself. I'd send the "loser" to come to work for me, and then I could stay home all day and build. (Course, I'd probably need a COUPLE of doubles, one for armor and one for ships, and I'd probably need one to throw at stuff to do around the house!!! :-) :-) :-)


It's a GREAT idea, and I've already got a kit I'd do, but I'm gonna have to pass.

But since I'm starting to get the hang on this rigging thing, I'll be happy to help out anyone who gets frustrated with that part!!

Tom

I will leave the start date up to the rest of you guys i am ready now or 1 year from now because i don't have anything that has to get done i am flexible. I think i will give 2 kits a try now i just have to pick the second one out maybe one wood one plastic.

Tom,
We can always back-burner this until the spring. Like I said, it's negotiable and since it's not a campaign we have a lot more lattitude on time lines.

Just keep it in mind.

I just happen to have one or two plastic sailing ships in the old closet somewhere...... :-)
Maybe getting back into rigging these will get me back into rigging bi-planes......
I even upgraded the eyes with new lenses..... :-) :-)

So, does this mean I can still do my pirogue? Thy have been around the bayous for decades.



I'll just leave out the frosty beverages. Everything else has been part of Louisiana culture since the 1800s.

Gator

Provided it's complete with a Cajun and musk rat hides.

Yeah why not? It powered by oars, it's historical.....

Oh and some chicken necks for crabbing

Damn straight, Gator, you can do that one! I think it would add a "leetle Caajonn spiiice" to the build, Bro!
This is starting to be really exciting!
~Gunny

Hey Gents, I agree...I'd LOVE to have ya along for the trip, Mr, Hathaway, and like Mr. Arthur said, the time is definitely negotiable!
~Gunny

ALRIGHT! Count me in since we can do plastic! I just don't see changing my call sign to "woodcat"!
Although I do have an Artesania Latina "Swift" pilot boat that I completed years ago. As much as I love the look of wooden sailing ship kits, I just don't have the drive to do another.
"Plasti"cat

Well, I love building wooden ship models, but I got a couple of plastic kits in my stock, one of which fits quite well to this group build or campaign... It is a Greek trireme with oars and sails :-)

I read the posts but I am not quite clear if this will be a campaign. Is it a campaign with a ribbon at the end, or is it a group build where we will just sahre the progress and the product?

If I can make a suggestion for the start time I would prefer september or october. As mentioned in previous posts, we all have things to finish.

Either a campaign or a group build, this will be quite fun

Count me in
Cagin

Well hello Cagin, and
Welcome to Model Shipwrights!
To answer your question, mate, this will most likely be a group build for the fun of it, and to share the fun with the other participants...a definite learning experience overall...starting date is yet to be established, as our schedule here at MSW is a bit busy right now, and personally, I would like to attract as many modelers as possible into this build not only to meet and greet some new friends, but also to share the fun of this hobby that we all share...

~Gunny

Yeppers, what Mark said. I think you'll have a blast and I'm glad to see that you'll be an ancient subject, I look forward to seeing more like it.


And welcome to Model Shipwrights.

Best Wishes
Steve

Ayeee. Start the music, fire up de pot and start da roux. It sounds like a plan to me. I'll make sure to throw some nutra skins and crawfish traps in the the pirogue, maybe even an ol' pooch. Laissez les bon temps roules!

Gator

Now what's somebody from KANSAS know about "chicken neckin "???

Too funny!! Growing up in Tidewater, that was the less than complimentary name given by the "professionals" to those of us who crabbed off the dock in the back yard!

A chicken neck, some string, a dip net and a bucket! And NOW "let the good times roll"!!!

Tom