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Posted: Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 02:42 AM UTC
Yep, just about got everything I need. Just need to scrounge around finding some surplus commie weapons.
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 - 03:30 PM UTC
Great ribbon that is designed for this campaign.

Looking forward to get the campaign started - why is it not starting on April 1st? Is there any particular reason for stating it so late late?

Now, would I go with a LVT, M113 or Huey? Decisions decisions decisions....
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 - 04:34 PM UTC

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Great ribbon that is designed for this campaign.

Looking forward to get the campaign started - why is it not starting on April 1st? Is there any particular reason for stating it so late late?

Now, would I go with a LVT, M113 or Huey? Decisions decisions decisions....



Ahoy, Jesper!

To answer your timing question, mate, quite simply, I try to take into context ALL Kitmaker campaign activity, to, #1, create a time frame that is acceptable to all, #2, attract more entrants from all of our sites, #3, not to stress everyone out completely by running too many campaigns at once!

Alot of thought is put into these factors, and especially since us shipbuilders will often run very long campaigns, to allow extra time for complex builds...Now, we DO have a campaign starting on April 1st, mate...how about signing up for that one, while you're waiting for the next!?
Cheers,
~Gunny
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 - 05:36 PM UTC

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Ahoy, Jesper!

To answer your timing question, mate, quite simply, I try to take into context ALL Kitmaker campaign activity, to, #1, create a time frame that is acceptable to all, #2, attract more entrants from all of our sites, #3, not to stress everyone out completely by running too many campaigns at once!



I cannot argue with that. 1st July is fine with me. I were just wondering why the campaign was "promoted" so far ahead of actually starting.


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Alot of thought is put into these factors, and especially since us shipbuilders will often run very long campaigns, to allow extra time for complex builds...Now, we DO have a campaign starting on April 1st, mate...how about signing up for that one, while you're waiting for the next!?
Cheers,
~Gunny



Well, I have not build a ship for around 15 years, so I have no idea what would qualify for the Leyte campaign. Maybe if I can find something simple build OOB - maybe a submarine. I will try to see what I can find on the Internet. If you have any suggestions please do not hesitate to put them forward
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 - 05:48 PM UTC

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Well, I have not build a ship for around 15 years, so I have no idea what would qualify for the Leyte campaign.


Ahoy Jesper!

Boy, the subject matter for the Leyte campaign is wide open. Flattops to LCVP and LCMs. If you go the campaign page, there is a link in the addtional info slot that will take you to a fine Leyte site that list all the ships involved.

Leyte Gulf Campaign

Kenny
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 - 06:45 PM UTC
Thanks, I will look around and see if I get tempted to go of dry land
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 02:08 PM UTC
Hi Shipmates

Just a message to say our ranks have been increased by Doc Davis, Dog Egg, Rotorhead 67, Strong and USMC Doc.

Welcome to you all!

Only two and a half months to go and counting.........

Dus
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 03:43 AM UTC

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Hi Shipmates

Just a message to say our ranks have been increased by Doc Davis, Dog Egg, Rotorhead 67, Strong and USMC Doc.

Welcome to you all!

Only two and a half months to go and counting.........

Dus



I second the "Welcome!!" to our new Campaign inductees and wish them well on their upcoming journey down the twists and turns of the Mekong.......

Now, about that "...two and a half months to go..." ........

Tread.
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 10:37 PM UTC
I just picked up an Italerie 35th LCM3 for a real cheap price the other day. What modifications would I need to do to it to have it wrk for this campaign. I still may do the Huey D for it, but want to look at all my options.
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 11:32 PM UTC
Blaster,

Didn't they turn some of those LCM's into monitors? I thought I read something about that over at brownwater.net.

("Battleship of the Mekong" The Monitor was converted from an LCM(6) Landing Craft of WW II fame. Modified with bar armor, which prematurely detonated the warhead of an enemy RPG or recoilless rifle round and reduced penetration of any secondary armor plate. Styrofoam sponsons were added along the hull to assist in flotation and alleviate some of the added weight due to all the extra armor on board. Monitor's were considered to be the battleships of the flotilla due to their heavy armament consisting of, but not limited to the following: 40-mm Bofors cannon and .30-cal. or .50-cal machine gun mounted in a forward turret. An 81-mm direct fire mortar, four .30-cal machine guns amid ship. Two .50-cal. machine guns and a Mark 16 (Mod 4) 20-mm cannon mounted in turrets on the helm. Other versions were seen to have two Army M10-8 flamethrower turrets. A winch was placed on the fantail for chain drag equipment to sweep for command detonated mines. Power was provided by twin Detroit Diesel engines connected to dual shaft drives. Top speed was grueling 8 Knots. Crew consisted of eleven sailors. Some Program 4 Monitors were also converted into Command and Communication Boats (CCB) to serve as the eyes and ears for the Flotilla Commander, and Zippo boats that were modified by adding flamethrower turrets. )

I pasted that from the site. It would be a cool build, you should give it a go.
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 - 12:39 AM UTC
I think the French used LCM3. I know that they used US LCMs.
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 - 09:47 AM UTC
Gents,
Speaking of the French in Indochina, I've found a total of 1 photo so far of a French LCVP in use in Indochina. Has anyone else seen anything on these boats ? Could make for an interesting conversion. TIA for any help. Semper Fi.............Bruce
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 - 06:42 PM UTC
Hi all

here you go

http://indochine54.free.fr/cefeo/dinassau.html

greetz
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 - 08:56 PM UTC
Chris,

Great site, I took a quick look at it while at work and will have to go back and read through when I get home (to bad work doesn't have a wifi site for my palm).
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 - 08:58 PM UTC
Hey all,

I'm thinking about doing a coastguard ship (they used some ww2 seaplane tenders and I thought it would be a good fit for this campaign. Does this fall with in the rules????
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 - 10:52 PM UTC
again hello

I still searching..
mabye this helps...





I now no alot about the americans and have a lot of books wich also contains some french

any Q ..just ask..I try to find it or search for it

chris
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 - 11:33 PM UTC
Thanks for the info guys. I've seen that moniton and it looks cool, but I really am not interested in doing a lot of scratch / kitbashing on this project. May look into doing a kind of extra machine gun type gunship or something, and may change my mind and do something totally different. I have until July or so to decide
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 12:46 PM UTC

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Hey all,

I'm thinking about doing a coastguard ship (they used some ww2 seaplane tenders and I thought it would be a good fit for this campaign. Does this fall with in the rules????



Hi Frank

If your references say that the ship was used at some time in riverine ops or support then that will be fine.

I imagine seaplanes carried on the vessel would have been used to recce for the riverine forces.
Which kit is it, I am intrigued?

Cheers
Dus
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 12:53 PM UTC

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Gents,
Speaking of the French in Indochina, I've found a total of 1 photo so far of a French LCVP in use in Indochina. Has anyone else seen anything on these boats ? Could make for an interesting conversion. TIA for any help. Semper Fi.............Bruce



Hello Bruce

Have a look at this site aswell, when you scroll down the page click on the section 'boats'.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/Indochine/cefeo/afvs.html

There are listings of types and numbers of craft used by the French, looks like quite a few LCVP's were on strength. I believe these were upgunned with 20mm Oerlikon cannons and Machine guns.

If I turn up any pics I will pass 'em on.

All the best
Dus

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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 12:54 PM UTC

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again hello

I still searching..
mabye this helps...





I now no alot about the americans and have a lot of books wich also contains some french

any Q ..just ask..I try to find it or search for it

chris



Hi Chris

Great plans, never seen those before.
Thanks for sharing them.

Cheers
Dus
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 12:59 PM UTC

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Thanks for the info guys. I've seen that moniton and it looks cool, but I really am not interested in doing a lot of scratch / kitbashing on this project. May look into doing a kind of extra machine gun type gunship or something, and may change my mind and do something totally different. I have until July or so to decide



Hi Steve

You can build the LCM3 straight(ish) if you wish, these were used by the French for transporting troops, trucks, guns, tanks(?), and cargo. I will say that most had a bit of armour either plate and or sandbags (and weapons) added around the wheelhouse area. This should be an easy addition from plastic card and some epoxy putty.
Probably best to have a look at the dinnasaut site mentioned earlier in the thread to get an idea. I will see what I can turn up.

All the best
Dus
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Posted: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 04:35 AM UTC
I'll be building one of these, not sure what one yet.
Any suggestions?

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Nice selection of sampans Dave.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 06:07 PM UTC
Dus,
Thank you for the URL to the Indochina site. I've been all over that one, believe me. It seems extremely difficult to believe there are no drawings or other photos available of the LCVP's modified for service there. But I have plenty of time, and will keep searching. Between the US wood ones, and the French Steel ones, there has to be more info out there
Thanks again, guys, and I'll keep digging. Semper Fi ............Bruce
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 02:08 AM UTC

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I'll be building one of these, not sure what one yet.
Any suggestions?




Hi Dave,
Great collection of sampans, didn't know so many were available.
Why not build a convoy?

Ciao
Dus