A little help on Jim's image posting....



Jim, a simple way of posting images:
- Choose image from your gallery (or whatever place, btw)
- Right click open in new window on the image
- copy address of the new window with image
- past it using the image tags (as you previously done)
. et voilá!!!

Hope this helps
Cheers,
Rui

Hopefully, using Rui's advice, I can now post a couple of pictures from Ramsgate Dynamo Day.

On the subject of inspiration for the campaign there are two excellent books by the author John de S Winser entitled "BEFships before, at and after Dunkirk" and "Short Sea: Long War" which are both in print. Out of print, but well worth obtaining or requesting from a library is "The ships that saved and army" by Russell Plummer.

Don

Model of Sun XI
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Sundowner[IMG]http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8505/southernqueentahillaram.th.jpg" BORDER="0">[/img]
Southern Queen and Tahilla

OK nearly there - at least one came out.

Here is the second try.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1012/sundownerramsgatedynmao.jpg
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The first should be of Sun X1 (again)
The second should be Sundowner and the third Southern Queen and Tahilla (previously Skylark)

Fingers crossed!

Hi Don

You're copying the letters URL also - that's a no-no


Model of Sun XI
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Sundowner
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Southern Queen and Tahilla

Cheers,
Rui

without complicating things....





If you reply with quote you can see my written code

Well I have ordered the Hospital Ship Set from Mike/Don.
Maybe it is time I build a ship
Now last place is locked-up

Thanks for the helpful advise Rui. I'm such a technophobe!!

I've made some progress on Canterbury II. Good photo references and potted history on this website:-
http://www.doverferryphotos.co.uk/pastandpresent/cbury2.htm

I've removed the features on the fore and aft decks, 'squared off' the front superstructure, rebuilt the aft superstructure and added a relocated hatch and companionway to fore deck. I've also developed a decal sheet based on the photos.

Here's some progress shots (fingers crossed)!!




Jim S

;)
Cheers,
Rui

Great work, everyone, and it's not only a ship building campaign but a website tutorial as well thanks to Rui.

And so, a fine feeling of shared building going on, and tonight it's onwards with my little dio. I've had a good time for research over the weekend, and now I shall start for real.

BTW, any ideas on the sea colour??? My dio is inshore so I think silt and brine = muddy colour turning to a light flat green going away from the shore.

In the meantime, come on, get those troops off the beach!

Peter F

Hi, Peter!
I agree that a grayish-green fading to darker green toward the open sea will serve you best.

Probably you know this page
http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/gallery13587-.html
Plenty of inspiration here to litter up the beach of yours.

Cheers,
Guido

Cheers, Guido, and not a page I knew of and some more images for those looking to start.

Peter F

Peter,
For a suggested sea colour, check out my Royal Daffodil on the FineWaterline website. Sea is a mix of leaf green, cadmium yellow and burnt sienna acrylics.

The colour is true of the Thames estuary and a close match for the sea off Belgium (even on a sunny day!).

Jim S

Jim Smith was looking for some PE figures.
So, I sent him a pack of Tom Modelworks Figures(120 per set)
Let us know what you think about their usability for Dunkirk.

Hello All,
Does anyone have a list of the ships that were used in the E-VAC so I can figure out what to build.
Thanks for any help,
Cheers,
Bruce

That will be quite a list as I believe 933 ships took part!

However, in general terms, the naval vessels were mostly destroyers. Initially A to I class ships wre involved, but then the older ships (V & W classes, old S class and some of the WWI built leaders) were used as being less valuable.

One or two sloops were also used.

Minesweepers from the coal burning Hunt class and the newer Halcyon class were used extensively.

Paddle steamers impressed as minesweepers were used quite a lot.

Most of the other ships were impressed civilian vessels - cross channel ferries, Dutch and other coasters, lots of tugs from the old fleet tugs of the Saint class to impressed tugs mostly from the Thames area, RNLI lifeboats, and civilian pleasure craft.

If you can narrow down to the area that particularly interests you, I will do my best to help.

All the best

Don

This is the list of warships i found most complete for the Allies. Looks like i'll be doing HMS Javelin prior to taking damage from enemy aircraft., just waiting on a book before i start.

Late on the 26th, the Admiralty ordered Operation DYNAMO to commence. Major warships participating in the evacuation of allied troops from the Dunkirk area from 27 May to 4 June were as follows.



Anti-aircraft cruiser – CALCUTTA, 1st Anti-Aircraft Cruiser Squadron (Captain D M Lees)



French large destroyers – EPERVIER, 11th Large Destroyer Division (Capitaine de Fregate J J G Bros), LEOPARD, 2nd Large Destroyer Division (Capitaine de Fregate C A Loisel)



Destroyers – ANTHONY, 16th Flotilla (Lt Cdr N V J T Thew), BASILISK, 19th Flotilla (Cdr M Richmond), CODRINGTON, 1st Flotilla (Captain GF Stevens-Guille, DSO, D.1), ESK, 20th Flotilla (Lt Cdr R J H Couch), EXPRESS, 20th Flotilla (Captain J G Bickford, D.20), GALLANT, 1st Flotilla (Lt Cdr C P F Brown), GRAFTON, 1st Flotilla (Cdr C E C Robinson, Lt H C J McRea after death of Robinson), GRENADE, 1st Flotilla (Cdr R C Boyle), GREYHOUND, 1st Flotilla (Cdr W R Marshall-A'Dean), HARVESTER, 9th Flotilla (Lt Cdr M Thornton), HAVANT, 9th Flotilla (Lt Cdr A F Burnell-Nugent), ICARUS, 20th Flotilla (Cdr C D Maud), IMPULSIVE, 20th Flotilla (Lt Cdr W S Thomas), INTREPID, 20th Flotilla (Cdr R C Gordon), IVANHOE, 20th Flotilla (Cdr P Hadow), JAGUAR, 7th Flotilla (Lt Cdr J F W Hine), JAVELIN, 7th Flotilla (Cdr A F Pugsley), KEITH, 19th Flotilla (Captain E L Berthon DSC, D.19), MACKAY, 11th Flotilla (Cdr G H Stokes), MALCOLM, 16th Flotilla (Captain T E Halsey, D.16), MONTROSE, 17th Flotilla (Cdr C R Parry), SABRE, attached destroyer (Cdr B Dean, ret), SALADIN, 11th Flotilla (Lt Cdr L J Dover), SCIMITAR, 16th Flotilla (Lt R D Franks), SHIKARI, 16th Flotilla (Cdr H N A Richardson), VANQUISHER, 11th Flotilla (Lt Cdr C B Alers-Hankey until the 29th (sick), Cdr W C Bushell after the 30th), VENOMOUS, 16th Flotilla (Cdr J E H McBeath), VERITY, 15th Flotilla (Cdr A R M Black, wounded on the 27th, Lt E L Jones from the 27th), VIMY, 11th Flotilla (Lt Cdr R G K Knowling, lost on the 28th en route to Dunkirk, Lt A P W Northey for the rest of this trip, Lt Cdr M W Ewart-Wentworth from the 30th), VIVACIOUS, 17th Flotilla (Lt Cdr F R W Parish (sick), Cdr E F V Dechaineux RAN on the 30th; this officer was the commanding officer of destroyer EGLINTON under construction), WAKEFUL, 17th Flotilla (Cdr R L Fisher), WHITEHALL, 15th Flotilla (Lt Cdr A B Russell), WHITSHED, 18th Flotilla (Cdr E R Conder), WILD SWAN, 18th Flotilla (Lt Cdr J L Younghusband DSC), WINCHELSEA, 11th Flotilla (Lt Cdr W A F Hawkins), WINDSOR, 18th Flotilla (Lt Cdr P D H R Pelly), WOLFHOUND, Convoy C of Rosyth Command (Lt Cdr J W McCoy), WOLSEY, Convoy C of Rosyth Command (Cdr C H Campbell), WORCESTER 18th Flotilla (Cdr J H Allison)



Polish BLYSKAWICA 1st Flotilla (Cdr Stanislaw Nahorski ORP)



French destroyers of the 2nd Destroyer Flotilla – BOURRASQUE, 4th Division (Capitaine de Fregate R G A Fouque), CYCLONE, 6th Division (Capitaine de Vaisseau Y F C A M Urvoy de Portzamparc), FOUDROYANT, 5th Division (Capitaine de Corvette P L A Fontaine), MISTRAL, 6th Division (Capitaine de Corvette E R Lavene), SIROCCO, 6th Division (Capitaine de Corvette G P C M J M de Toulouse-Latrec Montfa)



Sloop – BIDEFORD, 1st Sloop Division (Lt Cdr J H Lewes)



Patrol sloops - GUILLEMOT, 2nd Anti-Submarine Striking Force (Lt Cdr H M Darell-Brown), KINGFISHER, Experimental Ship (Lt Cdr G A M V Harrison), MALLARD, 1st Anti-Submarine Striking Force (Cdr The Hon V Wyndham-Quinn), SHEARWATER, 2nd Anti-Submarine Striking Force (Lt Cdr C F Powlett), SHELDRAKE, 1st Anti-Submarine Striking Force (Lt Cdr A E T Christie), WIDGEON, 2nd Anti-Submarine Striking Force (Lt Cdr R Frederick),



French torpedo boats - BOUCLIER, 14th Torpedo Boat Division (Capitaine de Fregate C M H de La Fourniere), BRANLEBAS, 11th Division (Capitaine de Corvette H M de Cacqueray), FLORE, 14th Division (c J M P Roussel de Courcy), L'INCOMPRISE, 11th Division (Capitaine de Corvette A A P Gras)



French sloops - AMIENS (anti-aircraft ship), attached sloop (Capitaine de Corvette M E J Monick), ARRAS, 1st Sloop Squadron (L V J P M Bidal), BELFORT, Naval Aviation Tender (Capitaine de Corvette P A Viel), LA BOUDEUSE, 2nd Sloop Squadron (Capitaine de Corvette M F L Hilly), COMMANDANT DELAGE, 2nd Sloop Squadron (Capitaine de Corvette A R P Froget), COMMANDANT RIVIERE, 2nd Sloop Squadron (Capitaine de Corvette J F U M De Gantes), DILIGENTE, Naval Aviation Tender (L V P H M Le Roux), L'IMPETUEUSE, 2nd Sloop Squadron (Capitaine de Corvette F M J Bachy)



Gunboats – LOCUST (Lt A N P Costobadie), MOSQUITO, both Thames Estuary Defense Flotilla (Lt D H P Gardiner)



Minesweepers - ALBURY, 5th Mine Sweeping Flotilla (Lt Cdr C H Corbet-Singleton), BRIGHTON BELLE, 10th Flotilla (Temporary Lt L K Perrin RNVR), BRIGHTON QUEEN, 7th Flotilla (Temporary Lt A Stubbs RNR), DEVONIA, 7th Flotilla (Temporary Lt J Brotchie RNVR), DUCHESS OF FIFE, 12th Flotilla (Temporary Lt J Anderson RNR), DUNDALK, 4th Flotilla (Lt CdrF A I Kirkpatrick), EMPEROR OF INDIA, 10th Flotilla (Temporary Lt C Pawley RNR), FITZROY, 4th Flotilla (Lt Cdr R A Forbes), GLEN AVON, 8th Flotilla (Temporary Lt B H Loynes RNR), GLEN GOWER, 8th Flotilla (Acting Cdr M A O Biddulph (SO 8th Flotilla), GOSSAMER, 5th Flotilla (Lt Cdr R Ross, SO 5th Flotilla), GRACIE FIELDS, 10th Flotilla (Temporary Lt N Larkin RNR, Temporary Lt A C Weeks RNVR), HALCYON, 6th Flotilla (Lt Cdr J M S Cox DSC with Cdr E P Hinton MVO, SO 6th Flotilla), HEBE, 1st Flotilla (Cdr J S Temple), KELLET, 5th Flotilla (Cdr R C Hasket-Smith), LEDA, 5th Flotilla (Lt Cdr H Unwin), LYDD, 5th Flotilla (Lt Cdr R C D Haig), MARMION, 12th Flotilla (Temporary Lt H C Gaffney RNVR), MEDWAY QUEEN, 10th Flotilla (Temporary Lt A T Cook RNR), NIGER, 4th Flotilla (Cdr St J Cronyn, S O 4th Flotilla), ORIOLE, 12th Flotilla (Temporary Lt E L Davies RNR), PANGBOURNE, 5th Flotilla (CdrF Douglas-Watson), PLINLIMMON, 7th Flotilla (Lt G P Baker RNVR), PRINCESS ELIZABETH, 10th Flotilla (Temporary Lt C J Carp RNVR), QUEEN OF THANET, 7th Flotilla (Temporary Cdr S P Herival RNVR, SO 7th Flotilla), ROSS, 5th Flotilla (Acting CO Lt K A Gadd RNR, Cdr J P Apps Rtd), SALAMANDER, 4th Flotilla (Lt Cdr L J S Ede), SALTASH, 5th Flotilla (Lt Cdr T R Fowke), SANDOWN, 10th Flotilla (Acting Cdr K M Greig DSO Rtd, SO 10th Flotilla), SHARPSHOOTER, 1st Flotilla (Lt A E Doran), SKIPJACK, 6th Flotilla (Lt Cdr F B Proudfoot), SNAEFELL, 8th Flotilla (Temporary Lt F Brett RNVR), SPEEDWELL, 6th Flotilla (Lt Cdr F R G Maunsell), SUTTON, 4th Flotilla (A/Cdr G M Temple, SO 4th Flotilla), WAVERLEY, 12th Flotilla (Lt S F Harmer-Elliot RNVR, SO 12th Flotilla), WESTWARD HO, 7th Flotilla (Temporary Lt A L Braithwaite RNVR), WHIPPINGHAM, unattached (Temporary Lt E Reed RNR)



In the 4th, 5th, 6th Mine Sweeping Flotillas, only the 4th Flotilla's SELKIRK and ELGIN and 6th Flotilla's HARRIER and HUSSAR were absent from DYNAMO, all under repairs. The 6th Minesweeping Flotilla's SPEEDWELL was under repair at Chatham from 26 to 30 May



Motor torpedo boats - MTB.16, 1st Motor Torpedo Boat Flotilla (Lt P F S Gould), MTB.22, 4th Flotilla (Lt A B Cole), MTB.67,10th Flotilla (Lt C G Anderson), MTB.68, 10th Flotilla (Lt R K L Walker RNVR), MTB.102, 3rd Flotilla (Lt C W S Dreyer), MTB.107, 10th Flotilla (Lt J Cameron RNVR)



Motor Launch – ML.100, 3rd Motor Torpedo Boat Flotilla (Lt W L Stephens RNVR)



Motor Anti-Submarine Boats - MA/SB.5 (Lt E M Thorpe), MA/SB.6 (Lt W G Everitt, SO 1st MA/SB Flotilla), MA/SB.7 (S/Lt A Ecclestone), MA/SB.10, all 1st MA/SB Flotilla (Lt R G H G Eyre)



French motor torpedo boats - VTB.23, VTB.24, VTB.25, VTB.26, VTB.27, VTB.28, CH.5 (LV M A Detroyat), CH.6 (EV Desmoutis, CH.7, CH.11 (EV Montillier), 42 (P M T Y Jule), C.106

Hope this helps...

steve

It certainly did!
Thanks for sharing, Steve!
Guido

Harry
They look pretty good to me, they look like they have helmets.

Mike

Hello Don & Stephen,
Thanks for all of your help. I hated to go looking through all my books for the few I have on the RN and Dunkirk, I do not even know which storage unit they might be in.
Again, Thanks,
Cheers,
Bruce

Glad to be of help guys

The page was taken from British and other navies day by day This gives good accounts of action on certain days and obviosly the dates of dunkirk have plenty of entries .Also included is troop numbers picked up. If you have a particular ship in mind look Royal Navy service histories. This one is very useful as regard to what your ship did at dunkirk and when it was actually there. Again includes troop numbers picked up. Both the above are all part of Naval History .net

steve

I agree, the Royal Navy Day be Day site is a very useful reference. If you are interested in the civilian or ex-civilian vessels, the de Winser and Plummer books I mentioned earlier are very good, but the on-line information is very scattered, although this one http://www.thamestugs.co.uk/ is good on the tugs involved.

I have decided to make a start and have posted a couple of pictures on the In Progress gallery for this campaign rather than try Rui's patience with yet another botched attempt to include picture here

My first diorama will include St Abbs and she is now complete. Now working on the string of cutters she will be towing and started the HP S class kit of Steadfast as Scimitar. Rather a nice little kit by the way.

The second diorama is in the planning stage and will include another Saint class tug as well as Kellett to be modified from the Finewaterline kit. The centrepiece is to be HMS Bideford just after she had been heavily bombed and lost 40 feet from her stern as she transfers troops already embarked onto Kellett. The plan for this has also been added to the In Progress section.

I have never represented damage before so any advice will be welcome. Roy was good enough to give me some hints last time we met, but I have decided to cast the hull of Bideford so if I make a mess of representing the damage, I can have another go without having to start completely from scratch.

This is becoming really interesting as its not just a ship in the sea going along or at anchor, this is something else entirely and a whole new area of modelling.

I have found so far.

1/. modelling the beach, and shallows together with colouring.
2/. damaged or half sunken ships.
3/. men in the sea up to their torso, and necks.
4/. explosions.

and what else is going to come up?







I've been looking at the sea effects but I haven't concluded at all, I need to keep on experimenting, so its continue time again.............

Peter F

Did you hear that? ...........did you hear that?

Look what's just turned up - only the small boats set by David Griffith, and now I'm really spolt for choice. BTW, David Griffith wrote and illustrated the book on small scale modelling which everyone should have who's interested in this type of modelling.







The kit is available from Finewaterline at £8 inc. postage in UK - unless they charged me more?

Also, that sea I created above looks better on the net than in real life - I will try harder!

Peter F

Just seen this site over on another forum, French Ship Plans Very useful for anyone doing a french ship at Dunkirk.

steve