Started rigging the funnels this weekend, put it off for 2 months because it scared the bejezzers out of me. There is a ton of stays. Im using mono instead of wire like I did on my Emden. its comining along good. Will have to post some pics in a seperate thread dont want to take away any of your well apreaciated thunder. Thanks for your build log couldnt have done it with out it.

Bill

You are very welcome Bill, good luck with your build, would be good to see some pics as you go along.

Cheers

Si

Hi Simon;
I have been working on the Admerals walk and was wondering what the stern platform is for and how is it used. Is that how they got into the the walkway?

Bill

Hi Bill,

The Admiral's walk was a private bit of open deck for the use of the Admiral, (or Captain if the ship wasn't a flagship), basically a steel version of the stern galleries fitted on many 17th and 18th centaury ships of the line. Up until post ww2 many warships hadn't moved the Admiral's and Captain's day cabins from their traditional positions under the quarterdeck.

Looks like in my excitement of trying to make all the aftermarket work I missed out a watertight door leading from the Admiral's / captain's day cabin directly onto the walk. Not sure exactly where it would go, so as long as you fit one it will look right.

You could think of the walk as the precursor of the modern cruise liner balcony.

Keep up the good work on your build Bill.

Cheers

Si

Thanks Simon but what is that stern platform that has the 2 pullys hooked to the flagstaff.

Bill

Hi Bill,

Honest answer is I don't know. Maybe access to a boat tied up off the stern (Via a rope ladder).

Any thoughts any body else.

Si

Thanks Simon maybe someone will chime in on this. I did put a watertight door on the forward port side of the admerals walk. Little tricky getting it in because I already had the top frame piece on. I also put the stern crest below the admerals walk.

Bill

Sounds good Bill, I will do some more digging through my references in case I find something.

Si

Only guess I have about the rope is support of the flagstaff. They might have used tackle there to adjust the tension. Once one of those enormous Ensigns were flown off the back, that sucker would probably want to take off rough out of the deck!! Just shooting dart s here!!

Good thought Todd,

Although I expect that sort of support would have come from the forward side of the Flagstaff.

mind you could equally be right.

Si

LOL...wouldn't be the first time I was wrong my friend!! From some line drawing, the supports look to be coming in along the side atop the railing or at least along side them. Figure they might just be interpreting what is actually there as I had not seen any general arrangements on the ship and you know how limited the view can be on the pictures of this gal are! Either way, they look great and fit the part if you ask me!

Equally Todd, I got them in the wrong place, I was following my interpretation of the WEM instructions.

Either way I am still happy with my end result, and it helps Bill get his right, all to the good.

Si

Todd I dont quit get what you are trying to describe. if you could point me to the line drawing you are refering to that would be great. And thanks guys for the help.

Bill

Hi Bill, I was referring to the typical angled supports that run from the flagstaff to the deck and the block and tackle added to somehow add tension to bear the weigh if the massive ensign flags hung off the back sometimes. I was also basically shooting darts blindly thinking that someone in the kit design side might have added rigging supports instead of the usual supports since I did not see any installed on the model.

To be honest, I have to recant the guess after taking a better look at the build and then back at a couple of prints. It looks more like simple block and tackle in place to support the platform not the other way around.



In the plan above, the platform is in place...this one not



I have to go with support for the platform which also allows for the raising of the plat form if needed.

Thanks Todd that cleared that up. I just had a thought about the use of the platform, could it have been used to set up and take down the rear flag. Seems to maybe make sense seeing that the staff is at a pretty good angle.

Bill

Very good thought there Bill!!

What Todd said,

Good thought Bill.

Si

A guy at work thought the platform may have been used at the dock, maybe for disembarking the ship.

Bill

Hi Bill,

Of course, very good thought. In the Med & Black Sea in particular mooring stern to the berth is very common.

That causes something else to come to mind.

Also when at anchor boats were often streamed astern, so could be for access to that as well.

Thanks again,

Cheers

Si

Congratulation to this beautiful build. You can t have too many stacks on one ship.

Thanks Bernd,

They are great looking ships these old armoured cruisers.

Cheers

Si

Got this kit in my stash, i am really tempted to get some more stuff for her and build this beautiful ship.

It is worth the effort.

If you can track down the White Ensign Etch it is has much more on it than the GMM combined Borodino / Varyag set. The master barrels for the guns and the artwork deck are certainly worth the investment.

The Master masts and yardarms are an improvement ovet the kit parts, but they do take a bit of fettling over the kit parts to fit.

I did really enjoy this build, could do with a few more cruisers from this period in plastic.

Cheers

Si

It looks very tasty, in the box with this great artwork on the cover.
This morning, i surfed a bit on the Hobby Easy webstore they had a good looking detail set/ wooden deck from Woodhunter with some PE stuff in the box.
WEM is back, they have a new webstore, now in $ and they can soon accept orders.
Sounds like a bright (modelling) future

Sounds an interest set Bernd, I don't know of woodhunter.

Would like to see some pictures of it possible?

Cheers.

Si