Good. My friend Warren .... you realized an excellent work in record time!!! It is a pity to have to sink it with my torpedoes!!!!! Jajajjajajaaj

Two questions for you ...... do you go to add crews as the friend Al?? Really look very well ...congratulations friend!!

Dont you go for the weathering??

In any case ... my congratulations and respects to my opponent of the Channel!!!

Run Warren Run !!!!!!



Daniel

Rock and Rool

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Daniel

Hi Daniel.

This one is sitting in harbour at rest so no crew on board or ammo in the machine guns.

I am not really a weathering person with boats.. AFVs yes but then I don't think highly weathering a WW2 AFV is that accurate, Some you see look as though they have been in a swamp for two decades..

These boats only ever did short trips and all the other times the crew would have been free to keep them looking spic and span. So I don't think they would ever have looked very dirty and grimy.

But if I was you I would be very worried with four torpedo tubes and many guns trained your way..

Cheers mate
Warren

Yes, I had that feeling this morning Daniel, Warren has been playing with his nuts, Al has succumbed to major temptation and you are making great progress
Is that a chain gear on your forward 20mm? looks good !

Thank you very much Simon, there is an amazing amount of detail to add to this very small wheelhouse. The Griffon set really goes to town on this area.

Congratulations Warren, you came in first with this build and it turned out to be a real looker. Very nice work sir! only fault I can find are the two rather puny lengths of string you put on deck, but just about all "Landlubbers" manage to get this portrayal of mooring lines wrong. I would ditch them, no one will miss them and the reality factor will go sky high.
Nice clean work all around and it is hard to match your PE work.
The feature is very nice too !

They certainly would not:






Just pulling your leg Warren,

A detail I find interesting in this photo is that the canvas wind dodger over the forward hatch has its top painted/dyed to match the deck. We all know the amount of wear and tear on any subject can vary from pristine to grungy. Whether to weather (pun intended) is a personal choice. My missus cannot fathom why I insist on 'dirtying' up such a pretty model, yet many non-modelers pick-up on the weathering when shown one of my builds, "Love the rust!", it must be a guy thing! Al

It certainly is
Later

I see that in my adversaries also there are crews that leave the thrown paintbrush, they mount the bicycles and go away to the "Dulce Rosa" or " Wild Rabbit ".....

Really am I never going to deal for that there is so many resistance in the topic weathering in everything naval????
We are speaking on a large scale 1/35!!! Where in size of the details they are seen.
Personally ... it tires me that always I have to give explanations. Showing images .. bla bla .... I end!!! Simply in spite of looking at photographies and reading a bit, it would reach... In a beginning of the hostilities and even under a lying service of propaganda everything meets impeccable, top, without brands of the minimal hurt!!! But with the course of the war, where the enemy's quantity was overwhelming, where few ships were doing work of coverage anti air, sowed of mines, night assaults and to face major as destructive enemies. Yes "Destroyers" was his real enemies ..... the clashes between rapid boats were less.
This way that boats that estay of service full time , doing tactical operations, patrol, coverage anti air to submarines in his entry to bunkers, being down constant raids of Hurricanes or Spitt and everything what was flying, added the periodic bombardment of the bases ...... one claims that they do not have stripes, blows, fires, holes, patches, oxides, you splinter etc etc ...... mmmmmmmmm

A time ago I was visit on board of a couple of war ships anchored in Montevido's port ....... looking of distant view they meet magnificent!!! But when one approaches .... the repairs are seen .... oxides. Patches of painting, saltpeter etc etc and not this under no problem of previously commented ....
.... My humble conclusion is that every modeler does his models since more he likes !!!!

Daniel oxides fun !!!

I have to agree Daniel, these were hard worked little boats that probably got a lot of the less desirable jobs being comparativly cheap assets that, although the "Brass" would probably not admit, were also expendible. At the moment I am in the process of weathering the Vosper and enjoying every moment.

Enjoy my friend enjoy !!!!

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LED's in the wheelhouse? Nice one !

October 18th update:
Weathering the Vosper as I already mentioned. It is interesting to see that the ship looks cleaner in a black & white photo than in colour
Not finished weathering yet, also working on the wheelhouse interior:




















A lot of photos, but a lot is happening.

Jajajjaja It is "Rock and roll" proved Impresinante!!! I love it The green moss I remain brilliant!! The captures in B&W remain brilliant!!! And give an idea of what happens in the images of the books minimizing many details of the Weathering .

Congratulations Julian you are an experten!!!

Thanks Daniel, still needs some work. Experten? No, not really

Great work guys, this has been a very interesting thread and I've been enjoying it immensely. I agree with Daniel, I build a model to suit my tastes, as I'll be looking at it a lot longer than anyone else. Not to say that I don't welcome comments or suggestions, it's just that I won't let how some else thinks ruin my fun. Just like 'armchair generals' there are some modelers who have nothing constructive to contribute, just how it should have been done their way. Al

Julian,

Doing a grand job of the weathering !!

Got to admit I'm definitely in your school of finishing.

I also think there is no right or wrong way to finish a small patrol boat. Its down to the individuals snap shot pic they have in their minds.

If the boat is on active service particularly in the Med it may be days/weeks before they see their home base.

Cheers Kev

Thanks Kev, a bit of weathering can bring a ship to life. I worked on tugs, heavy lift vessels and anchor handling suppliers for about 10 years. They could look pretty grungy after a few weeks hard work on the North Sea but they were well maintained mechanically. The paintwork was usually a question of a quick going over with a wire brush, a thick coat of red lead and then a few coats of paint, this until the ship got a good going over in dock. Even after two days you would get the brownish run offs of rust water leaving streaks on light greys and white. That and dirt streaks. What you didn't see was the Panamanian total rust effect

It wasn't the fact about the amount of rope there, the problem is that rope, and any other I have, is not flexible enough to have a pile of it sitting on the deck. The coil at the rear is just sitting there.

As a knowledgeable person typed a few comment back, it is up to the individual how much if any weathering they apply to THEIR model. As they also said they are the main ones who will be looking at it, in my case the only person who will be looking at it, so they need to be happy with it.

In my experience naval craft are maintained completely differently to civilian craft due to the fact that the crews minds need to be kept off the stuff they are missing while on duty and possibly in very trying conditions. You do that by creating freindly competition about who can keep their area of the ship cleanest etc etc. Commercial concerns don't come into it.

That is all I am saying on the subject as it is much too subjective. I have never directly criticised any ones work no matter how much weathering they have applied, even though I KNOW panel gaps on aircraft do not show like they do in many of the models on Aeroscale, and I don't think I have ever seen a picture of an AFV in operations that looks like it has been at the bottom of a swamp for a few years.

Over and out..
Warren

It wasn't the fact about the amount of rope there, the problem is that rope, and any other I have, is not flexible enough to have a pile of it sitting on the deck. The coil at the rear is just sitting there.[quoted text]

Hello Warren, have you tried soaking your 'rope' in diluted white glue? I use Woodland Scenics' brand "Scenic Cement" but you could thin any white glue. It'll allow you to drape it more realistically and the glue will adhere the 'rope' to the deck.
:-H Al

No need to get your panties all bunched up Warren, not knocking your build, it's great. All I am trying to say is that the mooring lines are too short to do any good. Al's tip to use diluted white glue is an excellent way to make coils of rope etc. As for weathering, I like weathering and you don't, not World stopping I would say
Julian

Who said I had my panties in a bunch? Life is too short for that sort of thing.

Speaking of too short, I just picked up an S-100 for just $160.. with free postage..

Nice catch! Seem to be more S-100's gathering here than Vospers Understandable though IMHO, OOB the Vosper is amazingly unimpressive with feeble weaponry. The S-100 is big beefy, well armed vessel that looks like a pub brawler.
I rest my case