 Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.
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Harry_at_BFM
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Posted: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 - 10:13 PM UTC
Looks great to me Russell!
  Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.
 Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.
 Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.
 Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.Posted: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 05:55 AM UTC
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Looks great to me Russell!
Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.
Thanks Harry
 
 Chipping away at the railing at the mo...
 
 Posted: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:44 AM UTC
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Quoted TextLooks great to me Russell!
Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.
Thanks Harry
Chipping away at the railing at the mo...
Ugh! Railing!
Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 02:05 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextLooks great to me Russell!
Tried the new Gunze GX super black, worked out great.
Thanks Harry
Chipping away at the railing at the mo...
Ugh! Railing!
hehe, railings aren't so bad... well, compared to pom poms and radar sets
 
 Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2017 - 04:16 PM UTC
 Update 24th November, 2017 
Well, things are a little quiet at the docks at the moment as I focus on the Typhoon for Airfix IV, however I am continuing to add railings as time permits. Given the nature of railings there's not a lot to show at this time, so instead I thought I'd to a bit of a SBS on how I prepare the base ready to mount the ship! Hope that nobody minds, but until I finish the railings, there's really not much to show on the ship itself 
 
So, firstly I take a piece of paper large enough to draw out the limits of the the ship from stem to stern and also the beam. Then I allow around 15mm all around to determine the size of the base I will use.
I also position the ship onto this drawing trace around it and then onto that I space out the chocks which are 12mm wide and work how long each chock will be.

Once I've done this I then contract out to have the base made. This is because I do not have access to a table saw or a router. The guy I contract to stains and applies felt to the base.

using the lengths i worked out for each chock I then cut them to length from 12mm square, dressed all round pine. A bit of a sand to chamfer the corners then 3 coats of the same stain.

Then the centreline of the base is marked with a pencil and a set square used to mark the central chock position. It is important to work outwards in case your pitching is off.

I use an offcut to make sure each consecutive piece is parallel and at the correct pitch.

And there you have it

Hopefully I'll be finished the railing in a week or so and then it's a question of clear coat first or rigging first?
Any thoughts guys as to which should be done first?
  
 
Well, things are a little quiet at the docks at the moment as I focus on the Typhoon for Airfix IV, however I am continuing to add railings as time permits. Given the nature of railings there's not a lot to show at this time, so instead I thought I'd to a bit of a SBS on how I prepare the base ready to mount the ship! Hope that nobody minds, but until I finish the railings, there's really not much to show on the ship itself
 
 So, firstly I take a piece of paper large enough to draw out the limits of the the ship from stem to stern and also the beam. Then I allow around 15mm all around to determine the size of the base I will use.
I also position the ship onto this drawing trace around it and then onto that I space out the chocks which are 12mm wide and work how long each chock will be.

Once I've done this I then contract out to have the base made. This is because I do not have access to a table saw or a router. The guy I contract to stains and applies felt to the base.

using the lengths i worked out for each chock I then cut them to length from 12mm square, dressed all round pine. A bit of a sand to chamfer the corners then 3 coats of the same stain.

Then the centreline of the base is marked with a pencil and a set square used to mark the central chock position. It is important to work outwards in case your pitching is off.

I use an offcut to make sure each consecutive piece is parallel and at the correct pitch.

And there you have it

Hopefully I'll be finished the railing in a week or so and then it's a question of clear coat first or rigging first?
Any thoughts guys as to which should be done first?
 
 TimReynaga
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2017 - 08:31 PM UTC
Hi Russ,
Thanks for the step-by-step on the base. I usually mount my ships on brass pedestals to better show off their hull lines, but I think I might try the wood "drydock" blocks next time. Your wood base sure looks nice!
Thanks for the step-by-step on the base. I usually mount my ships on brass pedestals to better show off their hull lines, but I think I might try the wood "drydock" blocks next time. Your wood base sure looks nice!
RedDuster

Joined: March 01, 2010
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 12:06 AM UTC
Great how to Russ,
Very classy base too, will set the Prinz off superbly.
Cheers
Si
Very classy base too, will set the Prinz off superbly.
Cheers
Si
Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 02:54 AM UTC
Nice!
Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 02:59 AM UTC
Cool tutorial Russ.
I am along the lines of the brass pedestal as well so how do you attach the boat? Drill up from underneath or glue in place?
cheers
Michael
I am along the lines of the brass pedestal as well so how do you attach the boat? Drill up from underneath or glue in place?
cheers
Michael
Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 05:34 AM UTC
G'day Russ. Great to catch up on this build, super work on such a lot of details, and such a variety.
Very nice looking base as well, thanks for the process info!
Cheers, D
Very nice looking base as well, thanks for the process info!
Cheers, D
Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 02:48 PM UTC
Thank you very much everyone for your kind words! 
And thank you too for continuing to stick around on this build! 
 
I'd love to do brass pedestals but unfortunately I don't have enough vertical 'real estate' in my display cabinet for them, so chocks it is 
 
It's all glue holding it together too! The chocks are glued to the base using wood glue (PVA) and I'd usually use a 2 part epoxy to glue the ship down: it's all quite secure 
 
Russ 
 
And thank you too for continuing to stick around on this build!
 
 I'd love to do brass pedestals but unfortunately I don't have enough vertical 'real estate' in my display cabinet for them, so chocks it is
 
 It's all glue holding it together too! The chocks are glued to the base using wood glue (PVA) and I'd usually use a 2 part epoxy to glue the ship down: it's all quite secure
 
 Russ
 
 
MartinJQuinn

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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 08:43 PM UTC
Very nice work on the base.  
If clear coat you mean flat coat, I'd flat coat the model, rig, then add a final coat of flat coat to cover up and glue spots from the rigging. If you rig before you flat coat, you'll find the flat coat building up in layers on your rigging (ask me how I know).
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then it's a question of clear coat first or rigging first?
Any thoughts guys as to which should be done first?

If clear coat you mean flat coat, I'd flat coat the model, rig, then add a final coat of flat coat to cover up and glue spots from the rigging. If you rig before you flat coat, you'll find the flat coat building up in layers on your rigging (ask me how I know).
TimReynaga
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 08:51 PM UTC
Ditto with Martin's advice - I've made the mistake of clear coating after the rigging was on... it looked like the model had just gone through a storm in the Arctic!
Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 - 03:33 PM UTC
Thanks Martin/Tim! 
As I suspected, I reckon rigging will need to be done after clear matt coat otherwise it'll look like it's been serving in the arctic! 
 
As I suspected, I reckon rigging will need to be done after clear matt coat otherwise it'll look like it's been serving in the arctic!
 
 
Fordboy

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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 - 11:58 PM UTC
Ahoy Russell
Nice work on the base.
Uh oh I just learnt something about flat coat and rigging.
Gulp.
Even more potentially bad news for my already heavily stalled project.
Cheers
Sean
Nice work on the base.
Uh oh I just learnt something about flat coat and rigging.
Gulp.
Even more potentially bad news for my already heavily stalled project.
Cheers
Sean
Posted: Monday, November 27, 2017 - 04:50 PM UTC
Thanks Sean   
 
what is this mystery project? 
 
If you've rigged already and haven't flat coated, just skip that part no-one will know except us
 no-one will know except us   
 
 
 what is this mystery project?
 
 If you've rigged already and haven't flat coated, just skip that part
 no-one will know except us
 no-one will know except us   
 
Fordboy

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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2017 - 10:35 PM UTC
Ahoy Russell
There is no mystery -its my Airfix E-Boat
http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/forums/137625&page=1
Looks like I have lost lots of images courtesy of Photobucket.
My later Imgur ones are there though.
Cheers
Sean
There is no mystery -its my Airfix E-Boat
http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/forums/137625&page=1
Looks like I have lost lots of images courtesy of Photobucket.
My later Imgur ones are there though.
Cheers
Sean
Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - 04:32 PM UTC
Hey, yes, I've seen that Sean   
 
I wouldn't stress about not applying a clear matt coat now you've done the rigging. I've got plenty of models that are quite content without clear coat 
 
 
 I wouldn't stress about not applying a clear matt coat now you've done the rigging. I've got plenty of models that are quite content without clear coat
 
 Posted: Saturday, December 09, 2017 - 01:35 AM UTC
Hi Russ,
your Prinz looks just awesome on your latest pics (even some posts back), and what a job on the base!! Amazing work and a great idea for a base, mate!!
Cheers,
Jan
your Prinz looks just awesome on your latest pics (even some posts back), and what a job on the base!! Amazing work and a great idea for a base, mate!!
Cheers,
Jan
Posted: Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 03:42 PM UTC
Thanks Jan   
 
 
 Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 02:02 PM UTC
Although work has slowed down on the Prinz at the moment (railings etc) it is continuing throughout the festive season and is on track for a finish early in the new year.
In the meantime I just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! 
 
Happy modelling everyone and may there be some styrene related boxes under the tree 
 
Russ
In the meantime I just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year!
 
 Happy modelling everyone and may there be some styrene related boxes under the tree
 
 Russ
Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 02:20 PM UTC
Merry Christmas to you too, Russ.
Gaz
Gaz
Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 02:25 PM UTC
Merry Xmas Russ!
And here's hoping 2018 is your year for the Prinz 
 
cheers
Michael
And here's hoping 2018 is your year for the Prinz
 
 cheers
Michael

mgrummitt

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Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 09:38 PM UTC
Hi Russ,
Happy Holidays to you too and looking forward to more updates in 2018!!
Cheers
  
 
Happy Holidays to you too and looking forward to more updates in 2018!!
Cheers
 
 Posted: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 - 11:41 PM UTC
Hi Russ!
A merry Christmas and a happy new year for you, too!!
An early finish in 2018 - I take your word!! 
   Glacier race? How fast is your one on a quarter mile??
  Glacier race? How fast is your one on a quarter mile??   
   
   
 
Cheers mate, all the best, and I'm truly looking forward to see your beautiful Prinz crossing the finish line!
Jan
A merry Christmas and a happy new year for you, too!!
An early finish in 2018 - I take your word!!
 
   Glacier race? How fast is your one on a quarter mile??
  Glacier race? How fast is your one on a quarter mile??   
   
   
 Cheers mate, all the best, and I'm truly looking forward to see your beautiful Prinz crossing the finish line!
Jan
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