Hi Rodger,

Welcome to the campaign.

For this campaign started projects are permitted, but I would like a picture of the project, whatever state it is in with your opening post, and if you could include a datestamp, be it newspaper, mobile phone or computer showing date / time, that would be great, but not essential.

Emden sounds like a great choice, nice to have something WW1, will you be using any aftermarket on your build?

Cheers.

Si

Gents, I don't want to embarrass anyone by calling them out, but would remind you that MSW has members from all over the world. As such, terms like "Jap" or "Kraut," etc. should be avoided. While these terms were common during WW2 and thereafter, they are not considered polite these days. Therefore I would urge all members to use terms like "Japanese" or German, etc., and to avoid abbreviations that could offend lurkers or other members.

Thanks for your consideration and attention to this.

I've got the Gold Medal Models p.e. set. I'd like some brass barrels for it but Master Models doesn't seem to make any. I am going to ask for suggestions. Or I could use some hyperdermic needles I have.

Gents as to cruiser silhouettes I favor RN or USN. Most German cruisers look like their battleships. The Japanese were on the wrong side. I would vote for the Belfast. either modern or WW2.

Tom

Gents

I'm partial to the IJN but do agree they were on the wrong side. Either the Belfast or the San Francisco (New Orleans Class) is what I vote for

Dave

BMK make them. Well I used them for my Emden back in 2012 which I blogged on this site.

Hi all,

back after a while away and catching up with things here...

Firstly, Warren, BMK is out of business. Sad news...they found somebody to take over their online shop, but I think as to their barrels and stuff, that's gone unless you find some old ones They were one of my main sources in Germany.

As for the ribbon, I would vote for RN as well. The German WW II cruisers don't have a typical 'cruiser look', especially the silhouettes are very close to the battleships. But thinking about typical cruiser, something with three funnels comes to my mind somehow - be it RN or maybe even some German WW I cruises...

Cheers,
Jan

Thanks Guys,

I have been looking for cruiser silhouettes on free clipart, but very little joy, unless somebody can point me at a good link.

I think a three funnel WW1 cruiser would be excellent, as that silhouette scaled for a ribbon would look fairly generic.

Belfast or San Fransisco or Mogami would probably be the probably the most identifiable of the WW2 bunch.

The best I have found so far is an Arethusa



cheers

Si

Si that looks pretty good definitely a cruiser. The problem with WW1 cruisers is they didn't use turrets and unless your very familiar with cruiser history you wouldn't know what type of ship it was. We have lots of time to work on it. I have 3 campaigns on the bench now 2 for Armorama and one aircraft.

Tom

Thanks Todd,

The Arethusa has a very definite cruiser silhouette, but her and her class are not well that known.

I think as most of the major navies, in the early part of the last century, had three funnelled cruisers it was almost the iconic layout of the period.

Any more comments ideas very welcome.

Si

Thanks for the tip Warren, but I haven't found any BMK barrels out there. I'll keep looking though.

As to the ribbon, I think that Arethusa looks pretty good to me, and representative of a lot of cruisers. By that I mean if you really don't know your ship silhouettes she's got three turrets, two stacks, and two masts and that could mean a lot of different cruisers.

Cheers Rodger,

She is pretty obviously a cruiser, but anybody got any better suggestions, please feel free.

Si

I'm good.

Tom

Si, no objection to the one you have but thought I'd give you some more to think about since you asked.

Cheers Luciano,

Another good one, again the modified Leanders possibly aren't the best known class of cruiser, but undountably a cruiser.

Thanks mate,

Si

Luciano that page looks familiar. Many years ago I had a book that was supposed to be, or maybe really was, a recognition manual from WWII. It was the kind of book you'd look through to get information on an enemy ship, or to confirm identification of a friendly ship. The Allied ships mainly showed their distinguishing characteristics, mast height, length, number of stacks, masts, turrets, etc. The enemy ships would give details as to speed, armor, gunnery, etc.

Could you have the same book? I kick myself on letting mine get away.

Rodger

Rodger, unfortunately its just an image I captured from the web then edited to remove the battleships. I do however have the Jane's books on both WWI and II as well as the US Navy recognition book on German ships of WWII.

Si, I may change my mind as to my build (although by the start date I may change again) I was looking at the stash and near the bottom is the Trumpeter Admiral Ushakov Project 1144.2 Kirov class cruiser (or battlecruiser depending on who you speak too) for which I also have the WEM pe set.

The real ship is awaiting disposal as it's deemed to expensive to overhaul after the accident with one of it's two nuclear reactors some years ago.

Luciano those Kirov's are supposed to be extremely complex builds. I would love to follow along. Also on the Ship Model Forum there is this highly influential build:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=42741

I learned much from Bob Carr's build and approach.

Looking forward to seeing the Admiral take shape,
Bryan

Bryan, thank you for the link, I think

Looking at the link it looks like there is a lot of work to do to correct the kit, If I build her (are Russian ships male or female?) then I'll take the middle ground correcting some detail but not all.

I think looking at the corrections needed if I go with the Admiral Ushakov then I may need to make use of the already started rule and get a head start however there are two destroyers on the slips waiting to be completed first.

Hi Luciano,

A Kirov would be another different build, cruiser or battlecruiser she would be welcome.

Out of the box, complete rebuild, or anywhere in between up to you mate.

Si

I have had a go at designing a ribbon using the Arethusa silhouette.



This should be the correct scale,



Comments / suggestions be very would be welcome.

Cheers

Si

Si,

The ribon looks great. Only comment is that the blue back ground hides the bow and stern of the ship. May want to consider using a lighter color for the blue or a contrasting color for the ship.

Just a thought.

Dave

Good thought Dave,

How about this.



and scaled.



Cheers

Si

Wow Si! Nice ribbon, hope we go for it.
Take care,
Don "Lakota"