All right Si, another one hits the ways! The Hans Ludemann kit looks cool, looking forward to this one.

What's up with that base on the sprue, is it supposed to be heavy seas or rock? A homage to the ship's grounding, perhaps?

Tim, it’s supposedly meant to be rocks. My one went in the bin when I built the original Zvezda kit, which is kitted as the Z17, so not relevant to the actual ship.
Looking at this I may have to build this kit again as there was no dedicated pe available when I did mine, I just used bits and bobs from general sets.

Love these builds!

Will be watching for updates!

Those asymmetrical prop shafts are interesting too.

I've never seen that before.

Simon: If I recall correctly that kit has portholes on the hull that resemble bomb craters. Is this the same kit? If so how do you plan to deal with this.

My local Hobby Town has one in stock, so you have another opportunity to inspire me,

Looks like a fun Kit to build so will be watching this one with interest.....Cheers mark

Si,
Now you're talking my language! The poorly conceived German destroyer program has been a favorite subject of mine since the 80's.

Will watch with interest!


Gaz

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Si,
Now you're talking my language! The poorly conceived German destroyer program has been a favorite subject of mine since the 80's.

Will watch with interest!


Gaz

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Glad to have aboard Gaz,

They weren't the best balanced designs, yet still managed to be rather handsome ships.

I have always had a fascination with the Norwegian campaign, and Narvik is one of the places in Norway top of my list to visit.

Glad to have you aboard.

Cheers

Si

Hi Si,

I'm in and following too, of course - even if my commenting still might be a more sporadic one...

Very nice subject, I have the Zvezda one in stock. I always liked this last series of the 5" equipped boats Z17 - Z22. Looking forward to your build very much!

As for the shafts you are absolutely right, that design was for the reason that those boiler rooms and turbines were fittet in different sections (Abteilungen) of the boats so requiring shafts of different length. Actually, that's a very common approach until today, the main difference is that it's so obvious with the German Destroyers of the time, as the shafts exited the hull in different sections. But just check on modern times USN vessels - Ticonderogas, Arleigh Burkes, the old Chrarles F Adams, just to name a few. They all have two different shafts, it's only better concealed...

Cheers,
Jan

I presume that also explains asymmetrical funnel layout on the Ticonderoga's.

Simon: I am going to disagree with you a little bit here. There is no doubt about what you said about the British attempt to hold Norway early in the war. It was a mess. We Americans have another term for it, but this is a clean board and the term offensive.

What the attempt did do though, no matter how ineptly and costly it was, was tell the Norwegian people that we are with you, and help found the Norwegian resistance.

Strategically though it was to the Allies benefit to tie down German forces in Norway, but you can't keep them tied down without an occasional pin prick along the coastline, and active support of the resistance movement.

I never really introduced myself when I came here, but my background is that of a soldier, the Infantry to be specific. My naval interests though stem from long before that, when as a child my father worked at the Naval Gun Factory, the Washington DC Navy Yard, where the USS Drum, and USS Robert F Keller were the station ships, that I visited so many times I lost count. Don't know if you get the American TV program NCIS there in the UK, but the Washington Navy Yard is depicted in the outdoor, and trough the window shots in that program. The shop where my Dad worked, building 16" gun, Building 76, is now the U S Navy Museum